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    Intra workout carbohydrates?


    What are your thoughts on consuming intra workout carbohydrate supplements? I heard consuming carbohydrates during your workout can help with added energy increases and all but also it may have negative effects on testosterone levels, any thoughts or facts about this? Are Intra workout carbs recommended?

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    I consume a 2:1 shake of carbs to protein during.
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    Some people use them and some don't. Personally I don't and if I was going to I would just grab some G2.
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    Depends on how you like them. Try both ways and see which you like better
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    I always use them. My workout is no wear near the same level of performance and duration without them. I start sipping gatorade powder mixed triple strong - about starting about 1/3 into the workout. You can literally feel the strength and confidence increase a few minutes after investing it. Cheapest performing supp out there.
    Mixing it with BCAA's brings up another level.
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    ive been using glycomix with bulk leucine pre workout with nforce and have been having great workouts....
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    I find my recovery MUCH better when using carbs and protein intra
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    Thats the ticket right there! BCAAs and a carbo/electrolyte formula=PERFECTION!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Some people use them and some don't. Personally I don't and if I was going to I would just grab some G2.
    This, most people would rather eat their carbs (depending on their goal and caloric allotment) John meadows is a big advocate of cyclin dextrin's. Either way if you fuel your body before or after your workout for maximum performance you will get that, it just depends on what you feel works best for you intra-workout carbs or not. I personally do not use them.
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    I usually just use iForce Compete and many times when I don't hit my carbs for the day I throw in a scoop of Virtago. I feel awesome while training consuming these products but if I have a really good day then I'll just wait after my training to get some food instead but everyone is different.
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    Intraworkout carbs are fairly useless if you had a preworkout meal
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Intraworkout carbs are fairly useless if you had a preworkout meal
    But postworkout is crucial correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Intraworkout carbs are fairly useless if you had a preworkout meal
    coop, what are your thoughts on intra workout bcaas? Basically the same as carbs?
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    I've been downing a mixture of xtend,vitargo and creatine mono during workout and it works a treat for increasing energy nearing the end of workout and for recovery
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Intraworkout carbs are fairly useless if you had a preworkout meal
    What duration would constitute a pwo meal? IE; 2:30 moderate protein, high carb meal, train at 5:30...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    What duration would constitute a pwo meal? IE; 2:30 moderate protein, high carb meal, train at 5:30...
    Size of meal has a big factor not saying times. someone could eat 100 calories but its not the same as 800-1000 etc.
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    I use Karbolyn and BCAA only during my max effort sessions that last 3-4 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    Size of meal has a big factor not saying times. someone could eat 100 calories but its not the same as 800-1000 etc.
    I know, should have specified.....is there a certain rate of digestion
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    I don't care much at all for intra-workout carbs, and given the digestion of a pre-workout meal, they're not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    But postworkout is crucial correct?
    Nope, the data even indicates it may be sub-optimal. Protein is a "must" postworkout, followed by carbs at some point between postworkout and your next training session. Data even shows that waiting longer before ingesting carbs causes glycogen supercompensation, but that's minutia that's relevant only to marathon trainers.

    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    What duration would constitute a pwo meal? IE; 2:30 moderate protein, high carb meal, train at 5:30...
    Sounds fine to me. The bottom line is that anaerobic training (weights) will primarily dip into the phosphocreatine and glycolytic systems. As long as prior glycogen stores are sufficient, you should be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    coop, what are your thoughts on intra workout bcaas? Basically the same as carbs?
    Intraworkout BCAAs are fairly useless since their chief purpose is to spike plasma leucine levels. A comprehensive EAA product, on the other hand, may have comparable utility to protein, without the heavy stomach
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Intraworkout BCAAs are fairly useless since their chief purpose is to spike plasma leucine levels. A comprehensive EAA product, on the other hand, may have comparable utility to protein, without the heavy stomach
    So something like CL purple wraath as opposed to a modern BCAA (or anything similar).


    Using EAA for intra and then drinking the BCAA after training but before your meal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Intraworkout BCAAs are fairly useless since their chief purpose is to spike plasma leucine levels. A comprehensive EAA product, on the other hand, may have comparable utility to protein, without the heavy stomach
    Wait? Intra workout BCAA useless? Wow. I've always used bcaa intra especially when working out on a empty stomach.

    From what u saying post workout is when you want bcaa?

    This is new to me.
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    I see a lot of people eating pop tarts post workout. Anyone else practice this?

    I'm curious to know because I always consume my protein post workout than about two hours later I have my post workout meal.

    To those who do eat a pop tart post, do you drink a protein shake as well post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I see a lot of people eating pop tarts post workout. Anyone else practice this?

    I'm curious to know because I always consume my protein post workout than about two hours later I have my post workout meal.

    To those who do eat a pop tart post, do you drink a protein shake as well post?
    There's no need, but insulin sensitivity is optimized post-workout so something with high glycemic carbs is better tolerated vs. other times of the day. I would go with a shake + solid meal later on, just for satiety's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    There's no need, but insulin sensitivity is optimized post-workout so something with high glycemic carbs is better tolerated vs. other times of the day. I would go with a shake + solid meal later on, just for satiety's sake.
    Lol I be scared to even go ahead and eat a pop tart post workout lol. Ik insulin sensitivity is optimized post workout but still lol.

    I've always had my whey post workout with a meal two hours later.

    But.....having a pop tart post workout might not be to bad especially for bulking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Lol I be scared to even go ahead and eat a pop tart post workout lol. Ik insulin sensitivity is optimized post workout but still lol.

    I've always had my whey post workout with a meal two hours later.

    But.....having a pop tart post workout might not be to bad especially for bulking.
    lol, I think you're slightly over thinking it. Before this turns into a "if it fits your macros" debacle of a thread, I'l just say that the type of carbohydrate, more-so post-workout, isn't as important as your total daily amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    So something like CL purple wraath as opposed to a modern BCAA (or anything similar).


    Using EAA for intra and then drinking the BCAA after training but before your meal?
    BCAA is best used immediately prior to training. My preworkout shake typically includes BCAA with 5g leucine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I see a lot of people eating pop tarts post workout. Anyone else practice this?

    I'm curious to know because I always consume my protein post workout than about two hours later I have my post workout meal.

    To those who do eat a pop tart post, do you drink a protein shake as well post?
    The Modern BCAA is perfectly fine intraworkout...the plus variety. It's an EAA mix. Alanine is particularly beneficial intraworkout

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    There's no need, but insulin sensitivity is optimized post-workout so something with high glycemic carbs is better tolerated vs. other times of the day. I would go with a shake + solid meal later on, just for satiety's sake.
    Insulin sensitivity will be optimized until optimal glycogen status is re-established, whether it be postworkout or the next day
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Insulin sensitivity will be optimized until optimal glycogen status is re-established, whether it be postworkout or the next day
    Correct, I never said how long post-workout can be.

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    When depleting I use 10g protein and 17g fructose. Not entirely sure on wheather this is the best method but I remember something coming up on how fructose will allow you to workout harder without filling up muscle glycogen allowing a better depletion workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    When depleting I use 10g protein and 17g fructose. Not entirely sure on wheather this is the best method but I remember something coming up on how fructose will allow you to workout harder without filling up muscle glycogen allowing a better depletion workout.
    That may work. Only the liver coverts fructose to glycogen. However, I prefer to use nothing when depleting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I see a lot of people eating pop tarts post workout. Anyone else practice this?

    I'm curious to know because I always consume my protein post workout than about two hours later I have my post workout meal.

    To those who do eat a pop tart post, do you drink a protein shake as well post?
    F..k poop tarts. So much processed garbage.

    Personally I'd rather do some fruits or some karbolyn (I know, this is processed too, but it's a better alternative to poop tarts)
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    That may work. Only the liver coverts fructose to glycogen. However, I prefer to use nothing when depleting.
    Agreed. Why use fructose at all if it won't even contribute to energy levels (for anaerobic training)?
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    But isn't one hour after your workout the best time to eat your biggest meal, consume most nutrients, etc? That's what I've always read...so the golden hour is actually false?
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    I use peptopro intraworkout with a scoop of Gatorade powder to help mask the flavor. A de ent combo that I enjoy, and feel works real well. Drink about half durring and slam the other half on my ride home. My preworkout contains two grams Leucine.

    I am following a CBL diet as well. There's about 6-7 hours between my last meal and training, and about 20 hours between my last carb meal and training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    But isn't one hour after your workout the best time to eat your biggest meal, consume most nutrients, etc? That's what I've always read...so the golden hour is actually false?
    Indeed, the anabolic window is quite the myth
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Indeed, the anabolic window is quite the myth
    So coop? What u think about taking a Gda post workout meal? Waste or not? Or even anytime post workout.

    Do you think morning and pre workout meal to be the most effective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    But isn't one hour after your workout the best time to eat your biggest meal, consume most nutrients, etc? That's what I've always read...so the golden hour is actually false?
    Golden Rule?
    Who made this golden rule?
    Where is the scientific backing of this golden rule?
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    Then why does John Meadows talk SO MUCH about periworkout nutrition?

    Just to advertise for the sup companies?
    For the record, he advises whole foods before and after training, but he does have a specific protocol for intra, calling for cyclic dextrin and casein hydrosolate intra.

    I don't follow the intra protocol, but I do believe from personal experience (I'll admit i have no scientific data here :[ ) that when my pre and post nutrition got dialed on my gains were better.


    No science here but it just makes sense to me to eat the most calories after you finish training. Especially if you train for a long duration of time..
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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni View Post
    Then why does John Meadows talk SO MUCH about periworkout nutrition?

    Just to advertise for the sup companies?
    For the record, he advises whole foods before and after training, but he does have a specific protocol for intra, calling for cyclic dextrin and casein hydrosolate intra.

    I don't follow the intra protocol, but I do believe from personal experience (I'll admit i have no scientific data here :[ ) that when my pre and post nutrition got dialed on my gains were better.


    No science here but it just makes sense to me to eat the most calories after you finish training. Especially if you train for a long duration of time..
    When I get back from the gym I am ****ing STARVING


    Coop, bob : are you two saying you don't eat after training?
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