Before physical examination for health insurance...

  1. Before physical examination for health insurance...


    I am going to take physical examinations next week for health insurance, but I am not sure if the supplements I am taking will affect the results.

    I am currently taking:

    Whey: ON golden whey protein,
    Creatine: creatine mono,
    Pre-Workout: Fierce Domination (1 scoop) +Neurocore (1 scoop)
    T-Booster: DAA+Erase
    Others: MSM, Multivitamin.

    Should I stop taking any of those supplements before my physical examination? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.


  2. Stop the preworkouts so that your BP and HR are normal on physical. Other than that, should be fine, except maybe DAA/Erase increasing testicular size (a good thing).
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    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  3. Thanks man. How many days before the exam I should stop the perworkouts? Do you have any suggestions?
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  4. Day before. Are you getting bloodwork too? If so, stop training ~3 days prior. DAA and Erase will throw off your T and E numbers (not in a bad way though).
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    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  5. I am not sure about bloodwork, but it's my first time taking physical exam for the health insurance, so I assume they want everything from me, including my blood lol

    Thanks a lot!

  6. For sure you want to stop the creatine a couple of days before the exam. I didn't stop the creatine before an annual physical and the doc freaked--just had me redo the blood work and of course I stopped several days before and all was well.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by musclepumper View Post
    For sure you want to stop the creatine a couple of days before the exam. I didn't stop the creatine before an annual physical and the doc freaked--just had me redo the blood work and of course I stopped several days before and all was well.
    Creatine should only raise creatinine levels, no big deal. It shouldn't lower over night either. If your not fasting then probably no bloods.
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  8. I agree with Coop on this one.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Creatine should only raise creatinine levels, no big deal. It shouldn't lower over night either. If your not fasting then probably no bloods.
    Monohydrate actually doesn't affect creatinine levels, interestingly. CEE however...it shoots them through the roof
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    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  10. I guess I will just stop all the supplements 3days before the exam since I need to stop training for that exam and bloodwork lol

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Monohydrate actually doesn't affect creatinine levels, interestingly. CEE however...it shoots them through the roof
    Interesting. Someone should tell my doctor.

    about 10 weeks ago, I was doing a log for FinaFlex with their CreaTrona. I did blood the last week of the log just by coincidence. My creat levels came back 1.41. My doc asked me to go 4 weeks off due to the high levels to see if creatinine drops and it dropped to 1.14. my bloods where drawn 5 weeks apart. Does CEE effect Creatinine or is that just coincidence.

    Serious Question, not being a dik.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post

    Interesting. Someone should tell my doctor.

    about 10 weeks ago, I was doing a log for FinaFlex with their CreaTrona. I did blood the last week of the log just by coincidence. My creat levels came back 1.41. My doc asked me to go 4 weeks off due to the high levels to see if creatinine drops and it dropped to 1.14. my bloods where drawn 5 weeks apart. Does CEE effect Creatinine or is that just coincidence.

    Serious Question, not being a dik.
    It's been shown in numerous studies that CEE will generally cyclize into creatinine soon after consumption. Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure I've read both in vitro biological pH simulated studies as well as in vivo. So probably not just a coincidence.

  13. You could also look in to iForce Heart Help and Fish Oil for general health benefits.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Interesting. Someone should tell my doctor.

    about 10 weeks ago, I was doing a log for FinaFlex with their CreaTrona. I did blood the last week of the log just by coincidence. My creat levels came back 1.41. My doc asked me to go 4 weeks off due to the high levels to see if creatinine drops and it dropped to 1.14. my bloods where drawn 5 weeks apart. Does CEE effect Creatinine or is that just coincidence.

    Serious Question, not being a dik.
    CreaTona has a built in pH reducing ingredient (bad thing). The high acidity of the gastric environment actually protects against creatine cyclization to creatinine via protonation upon ingestion. So it is plausible that creatona was responsible for your increased creatinine levels
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    CreaTona has a built in pH reducing ingredient (bad thing). The high acidity of the gastric environment actually protects against creatine cyclization to creatinine via protonation upon ingestion. So it is plausible that creatona was responsible for your increased creatinine levels
    Idk anything about creatona but if it had a pH reducing ingredient, and the high acidity protects via protonation, then how would that be bad or really do anything at all different than if it wasn't in there at all?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by todd muelheim View Post

    Idk anything about creatona but if it had a pH reducing ingredient, and the high acidity protects via protonation, then how would that be bad or really do anything at all different than if it wasn't in there at all?
    My mistake, pH INCREASING ingredient is what I meant (bicarbonate)
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  17. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    My mistake, pH INCREASING ingredient is what I meant (bicarbonate)
    Why would they even do that?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by todd muelheim View Post
    Why would they even do that?
    I don't know. The whole thing that makes oral creatine monohydrate work is that the amide gets protonated upon exposure to a low pH...driving the pH up serves to decrease the bioavailability of monohydrate (which is ~100%) while creating a worthless and possibly detrimental metabolite.
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I don't know. The whole thing that makes oral creatine monohydrate work is that the amide gets protonated upon exposure to a low pH...driving the pH up serves to decrease the bioavailability of monohydrate (which is ~100%) while creating a worthless and possibly detrimental metabolite.
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  20. I can't stop laughing at this. Bitch.

  21. End of the series is looking to be epic!
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    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  22. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post

    My creat levels came back 1.41. Does CEE effect Creatinine or is that just coincidence.

    Serious Question, not being a dik.
    From a medical standpoint, unless there's underlying kidney issues, bb'ers and weightlifters have notoriously elevated blood urea nitrogen and creatinine levels. It's completely normal... I assure you.
    Your GFR (glomerular filtration rate) is what you/Doc need to be watching...

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    From a medical standpoint, unless there's underlying kidney issues, bb'ers and weightlifters have notoriously elevated blood urea nitrogen and creatinine levels. It's completely normal... I assure you.
    Your GFR (glomerular filtration rate) is what you/Doc need to be watching...
    A standard blood panel cannot track GFR absent creatinine unless there's an infusion of inulin.
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES

  24. Quote Originally Posted by laneanders View Post
    You could also look in to iForce Heart Help and Fish Oil for general health benefits.
    Lol @ off topic shilling
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  25. Just got my letter from the insurance company. "The physical exam must include exam notes including history and physical, height and weight, lipid panel, blood pressure, CBC (complete blood count), Chem-20 (SMA20) and urinalysis."

    So I guess blood work is involved ...

  26. Breaking Bad science advice, love it.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Stop the preworkouts so that your BP and HR are normal on physical. Other than that, should be fine, except maybe DAA/Erase increasing testicular size (a good thing).
    damnit.. they didnt check my nuts for my work physical!!!

    agreed with the pre.. I'd stop is a day or two prior.

    Mike

  28. Quote Originally Posted by sunfood View Post
    Just got my letter from the insurance company. "The physical exam must include exam notes including history and physical, height and weight, lipid panel, blood pressure, CBC (complete blood count), Chem-20 (SMA20) and urinalysis."

    So I guess blood work is involved ...
    Right, they will take blood and urine samples the day of the physical....
  

  
 

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