Fatloss stack for wife

Page 2 of 2 First 12
  1. Registered User
    kissdadookie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  169 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,774
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Will do. So far, down 1kg, but of course that's water weight. She feels weak from no carb, but I'm trying to reassure her that once she hits ketosis, she will feel fine. Alphamine/Alpha T-2 will be here next Monday, since I have to get it shipped to the Philippines.
    The idea of going into ketosis never made much sense to me. If you're on a caloric deficit and burning fat for energy, you're automatically breaking down body fat into fatty acids to be converted to ketones to be used as energy. So generally, if you're on a caloric deficit and adding in a good amount of exercise, there's no real reason to cut out carbs unless you have nothing else to cut your calories with. That just my opinion though, so, there is that.

  2. Registered User
    megadeth's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    44
    Posts
    229
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    The idea of going into ketosis never made much sense to me. If you're on a caloric deficit and burning fat for energy, you're automatically breaking down body fat into fatty acids to be converted to ketones to be used as energy. So generally, if you're on a caloric deficit and adding in a good amount of exercise, there's no real reason to cut out carbs unless you have nothing else to cut your calories with. That just my opinion though, so, there is that.
    You can be in a calorie deficit and still not be burning fat for fuel. The body will start burning any carbs consumed first. before fat. ketones aren't produced in the presence of carbs.
  3. Registered User
    kissdadookie's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  169 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Posts
    2,774
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    You can be in a calorie deficit and still not be burning fat for fuel. The body will start burning any carbs consumed first. before fat. ketones aren't produced in the presence of carbs.
    Depends. If you are on a deficit you are still on a deficit, can't defy the laws of thermodynamics. The whole idea of a caloric deficit is to not take in enough calories so that your body will have to burn through stored energy sources. At the end of the day it's still predominantly calories in calories out. Even if you ate some carbs, if it doesn't cover the deficit, you're body is going to be using alternative sources for energy.

    Now granted, things like insulin sensitivity also plays a role in how efficiently your body uses incoming carbs and where that glucose gets directed towards (remember, you muscle tissues is still made up of a good amount of glycogen which is glucose stored in muscle, and that glycogen can not in turn be stored in fat cells, that glycogen actually can not reenter the bloodstream, they can only be used to fuel muscles). Both body fat as well as muscles are forms of stored energy sources for the body (fatty acids stored in body fat, aminos stored in muscle). Exercise and proper protein intake will help spare muscles when there's not enough incoming calories to cover the metabolic cost of your activities and being alive. Also, ketosis is achieved when your liver glucose stores are depleted and your liver can only store X amount so it's not a bottomless container. If you don't have enough calories coming in, you don't have enough calories coming in. Ketosis is kind of a by-product of having a aggressive enough caloric deficit. I mean, you can cut out all carbs from your diet but if your caloric intake still ends up not hitting a deficit, you're not going to lose weight.

    Think about this, if you had proper exercise and proper protein intake thus signalling your body to preserve muscle tissue whilst also being on a caloric deficit, even if you are eating carbs as per usual, if you have a caloric deficit in which at the end of the day, you did not take in enough calories to cover the metabolic cost of your activities as well as just being alive, where do you suppose the body is going to start getting those calories from? Calories doesn't just appear out of thin air.

    But hey, some people believe in IF, some people believe in going into and staying in ketosis, at the end of the day, you see equally good results from all these different diet strategies, so, pick whichever one you can stick with I guess :P
    •   
       

  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. fat loss stack for wife
    By Independent in forum Supplements
    Replies: 56
    Last Post: 05-17-2013, 09:07 PM
  2. Best X-Factor stack for Recomp/fatloss
    By dank311 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 02-21-2008, 07:47 AM
  3. I need help with a stack for my wife
    By romanreid in forum Supplements
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-24-2007, 09:18 PM
  4. Weight loss stack for my wife
    By SMOKEPALADIN in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-03-2006, 07:21 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in