Fatloss stack for wife

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Alpha T-2 gets you sweating up a storm pre-workout. Dat dere exacerbated T4 to T3 conversion I'm assuming.
    Thermoregulation and T4 to T3 conversion, are the two hand in hand or are they two separate things? Been wondering about that lately.


  2. Incoming strong first post:

    Tread carefully.

    The stack here is awesome. But for me, that's never been an issue.... it's the lady's late night sugar cravings. If yours is the same, and is prone to slipping up at night, it's all about getting her a good protein powder that's not loaded with sugar. If you can safely* stop her from eating a bag of chocolate chips at night can go a longer way than a fat burner.

    *using this word in the "non-supplement" kind of way, if you know what I mean
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by PricePlow View Post
    Incoming strong first post:

    Tread carefully.

    The stack here is awesome. But for me, that's never been an issue.... it's the lady's late night sugar cravings. If yours is the same, and is prone to slipping up at night, it's all about getting her a good protein powder that's not loaded with sugar. If you can safely* stop her from eating a bag of chocolate chips at night can go a longer way than a fat burner.

    *using this word in the "non-supplement" kind of way, if you know what I mean
    Nah, she isn't big into sweets, but loves rice as she is a Filipina. She is pretty tiny 5'0/112, so she doesn't have far to go, hence the keto diet and a few fat burning supps.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Thermoregulation and T4 to T3 conversion, are the two hand in hand or are they two separate things? Been wondering about that lately.
    I would think they go together, as thermoregulation is controlled by the anterior hypothalamus. The hypothalamus converts T4 to T3.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    I would think they go together, as thermoregulation is controlled by the anterior hypothalamus. The hypothalamus converts T4 to T3.
    T4 is converted to T3 peripherally by 3'5'-deiodinase at the site of action. Increased T3 increases thermogenesis by increasing oxidative phosphorylation systemically, which releases heat on the final step of electron donation (to the oxygen).

    Hypothalmic thermoregulation is something entirely different and has to do with perceived core body temperature. If the hypothalamic set point was raised, you would actually not sweat because your actual body temperature would be too low relative to your perceived body temperature. But this is a totally different topic and something we generally only see in fevers

  6. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    T4 is converted to T3 peripherally by 3'5'-deiodinase at the site of action. Increased T3 increases thermogenesis by increasing oxidative phosphorylation systemically, which releases heat on the final step of electron donation (to the oxygen).

    Hypothalmic thermoregulation is something entirely different and has to do with perceived core body temperature. If the hypothalamic set point was raised, you would actually not sweat because your actual body temperature would be too low relative to your perceived body temperature. But this is a totally different topic and something we generally only see in fevers
    Okay, gotcha. I was just relating the pituitary gland stimulating TSH production and the overall mechanism of the hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis on thermoregulation.

  7. Funds are low, so I decided to just go w/ Alphamine/AlphaT-2 combo. Until they get here, I will have her on 3 Shift, 3 Alphaburn and 3 Chocamine daily. We are starting Keto Monday bright and early along w/Insanity. Thanks for the help guys! Hopefully she will "allow" me to post pics, so you can see the results.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Funds are low, so I decided to just go w/ Alphamine/AlphaT-2 combo. Until they get here, I will have her on 3 Shift, 3 Alphaburn and 3 Chocamine daily. We are starting Keto Monday bright and early along w/Insanity. Thanks for the help guys! Hopefully she will "allow" me to post pics, so you can see the results.
    Nice combo. Interested in her results, so keep us updated.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Nice combo. Interested in her results, so keep us updated.
    Will do. So far, down 1kg, but of course that's water weight. She feels weak from no carb, but I'm trying to reassure her that once she hits ketosis, she will feel fine. Alphamine/Alpha T-2 will be here next Monday, since I have to get it shipped to the Philippines.

  10. that der Insanity aint no joke! you might want to add something like an intra to that hard core training. iforce Compete will fuel the most intense work outs and compliment your fatloss efforts! they even try to sell u a recovery drink for the program but I cant recommend that u purchase it.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    Will do. So far, down 1kg, but of course that's water weight. She feels weak from no carb, but I'm trying to reassure her that once she hits ketosis, she will feel fine. Alphamine/Alpha T-2 will be here next Monday, since I have to get it shipped to the Philippines.
    The idea of going into ketosis never made much sense to me. If you're on a caloric deficit and burning fat for energy, you're automatically breaking down body fat into fatty acids to be converted to ketones to be used as energy. So generally, if you're on a caloric deficit and adding in a good amount of exercise, there's no real reason to cut out carbs unless you have nothing else to cut your calories with. That just my opinion though, so, there is that.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    The idea of going into ketosis never made much sense to me. If you're on a caloric deficit and burning fat for energy, you're automatically breaking down body fat into fatty acids to be converted to ketones to be used as energy. So generally, if you're on a caloric deficit and adding in a good amount of exercise, there's no real reason to cut out carbs unless you have nothing else to cut your calories with. That just my opinion though, so, there is that.
    You can be in a calorie deficit and still not be burning fat for fuel. The body will start burning any carbs consumed first. before fat. ketones aren't produced in the presence of carbs.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by megadeth View Post
    You can be in a calorie deficit and still not be burning fat for fuel. The body will start burning any carbs consumed first. before fat. ketones aren't produced in the presence of carbs.
    Depends. If you are on a deficit you are still on a deficit, can't defy the laws of thermodynamics. The whole idea of a caloric deficit is to not take in enough calories so that your body will have to burn through stored energy sources. At the end of the day it's still predominantly calories in calories out. Even if you ate some carbs, if it doesn't cover the deficit, you're body is going to be using alternative sources for energy.

    Now granted, things like insulin sensitivity also plays a role in how efficiently your body uses incoming carbs and where that glucose gets directed towards (remember, you muscle tissues is still made up of a good amount of glycogen which is glucose stored in muscle, and that glycogen can not in turn be stored in fat cells, that glycogen actually can not reenter the bloodstream, they can only be used to fuel muscles). Both body fat as well as muscles are forms of stored energy sources for the body (fatty acids stored in body fat, aminos stored in muscle). Exercise and proper protein intake will help spare muscles when there's not enough incoming calories to cover the metabolic cost of your activities and being alive. Also, ketosis is achieved when your liver glucose stores are depleted and your liver can only store X amount so it's not a bottomless container. If you don't have enough calories coming in, you don't have enough calories coming in. Ketosis is kind of a by-product of having a aggressive enough caloric deficit. I mean, you can cut out all carbs from your diet but if your caloric intake still ends up not hitting a deficit, you're not going to lose weight.

    Think about this, if you had proper exercise and proper protein intake thus signalling your body to preserve muscle tissue whilst also being on a caloric deficit, even if you are eating carbs as per usual, if you have a caloric deficit in which at the end of the day, you did not take in enough calories to cover the metabolic cost of your activities as well as just being alive, where do you suppose the body is going to start getting those calories from? Calories doesn't just appear out of thin air.

    But hey, some people believe in IF, some people believe in going into and staying in ketosis, at the end of the day, you see equally good results from all these different diet strategies, so, pick whichever one you can stick with I guess :P
  

  
 

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