Best Post Workout Drink without Dairy

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by someone View Post
    you made a post suggesting whey in place of egg, specifying same bcaa content
    my .02 is, you miss the point entirely of why someone takes egg to begin with
    In this case they would be taking it as an alternative to dairy-based protein for post workout purposes.
    For which Egg relatively closely mimics the desired parts of the whey protein amino acid profile.

    Which is the entire purpose of the thread being started.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    lqtm

    and you accuse me of personal attacks:
    really buddy, how old are you? quite juvenile
    you made a post suggesting whey in place of egg, specifying same bcaa content
    my .02 is, you miss the point entirely of why someone takes egg to begin with

    always intent on starting shyte, aren't you?
    sheesh..no worries on ignoring you, i'll let you run rampant with your chosen mentality
    you take care

    Meh, I would consider this a "personal attack/attempt at belittlement" as well: The legal supplement that impressed you most
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  3. How about eat a meal (some steak rice and broccoli) and top it off with some Red Velvet Protein by iForce for Dessert! That sounds like a good thing post workout

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
    How about eat a meal (some steak rice and broccoli) and top it off with some Red Velvet Protein by iForce for Dessert! That sounds like a good thing post workout
    I like that - but (and nothing at all against your chosen shake) if you are consuming decent-sized portion of steak, why bother with shake at all?
    unless, you want a more diverse amino profile

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Meh, I would consider this a "personal attack/attempt at belittlement" as well: The legal supplement that impressed you most
    i mean..just wow bro - was this a serious post?
    perceptions are indeed funny things
    if I may share my perception with you sir (without you claiming I am personally attacking you): a fine example of an attack is, getting involved in something you are not even involved in to begin with, to make a point(??) - and digging deep to find a 7 month old thread/exchange to "prove your point" - which on my end was simply nothing more than discussion/exchange of ideas to share a differnet opinion/perspective than what you had shared yourself (while getting involved in the discussion to begin with out of blue, when I was not even directing anything to you to begin with in that particular thread --- oh kinda like shades of what has transpired here?)



    but, what do I know?
    (inb4 that was another personal attack....)

    I think some of you need to get out into the real world and off the internet for awhile, live life, enjoy it and stop sweating the small stuff
    a different perspective can do wonders for your well-being

  5. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post

    i mean..just wow bro - was this a serious post?
    perceptions are indeed funny things
    if I may share my perception with you sir (without you claiming I am personally attacking you): a fine example of an attack is, getting involved in something you are not even involved in to begin with, to make a point(??) - and digging deep to find a 7 month old thread/exchange to "prove your point" - which on my end was simply nothing more than discussion/exchange of ideas to share a differnet opinion/perspective than what you had shared yourself (while getting involved in the discussion to begin with out of blue, when I was not even directing anything to you to begin with in that particular thread --- oh kinda like shades of what has transpired here?)



    but, what do I know?
    (inb4 that was another personal attack....)

    I think some of you need to get out into the real world and off the internet for awhile, live life, enjoy it and stop sweating the small stuff
    a different perspective can do wonders for your well-being
    That was accidentally dug up, as I came across it yesterday, then recalled it for today. I was insinuating your history of rants. You don't appear to give your opinion/perspective in a respectful way. I'm all for debates where we can all learn something, but telling de_eb, "but since you seem to think all aminos are the same, perhaps you don't grasp or embrace that concept", comes across at belittling and showcases an overabundance of arrogance on your behalf when in fact it was not simply needed.

    I thought what you said to me via PM was fine enough and I respected that, however now you felt the need to reiterate for everyone to see.. why? lol.

    And for your notion of me "randomly" helping out de_eb or my "lack of involvement" with him.. this isn't the only online forum.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    And for your notion of me "randomly" helping out de_eb or my "lack of involvement" with him.. this isn't the only online forum.
    well we can end this right now then bud, how's that?
    but one last thing: so what I will infer then (since there is all this assumption and inferring going on to begin with), is that you and deeb are buddies on other forums, and you felt the need - even tho nothing had been said to you except for my helpful post discussing egg protein powders that you made mention about - to stick up for your buddy..
    I see. shrewd, man

    no worries, and take care

  7. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well we can end this right now then bud, how's that?
    but one last thing: so what I will infer then (since there is all this assumption and inferring going on to begin with), is that you and deeb are buddies on other forums, and you felt the need - even tho nothing had been said to you except for my helpful post discussing egg protein powders that you made mention about - to stick up for your buddy..
    I see. shrewd, man

    no worries, and take care
    Not at all actually, I meant that it wasn't "random" for him and I to have similar thoughts on some concepts. I clearly didn't enunciate that at all, though.. that was my bad.

    I don't really care to take this thread even more tangent then it is, nor do I care for interwebz wars, so back to the topic.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    well we can end this right now then bud, how's that?
    but one last thing: so what I will infer then (since there is all this assumption and inferring going on to begin with), is that you and deeb are buddies on other forums, and you felt the need - even tho nothing had been said to you except for my helpful post discussing egg protein powders that you made mention about - to stick up for your buddy..
    I see. shrewd, man

    no worries, and take care
    Nobody attacked you, mentioned you, or wanted anything to do with you in this thread.

    You came in and decided to try to insult my knowledge of amino acids. Firstly, your post was completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread where someone is looking for an alternative to dairy protein. Additionally, you have repeatedly demonstrated your lack of understanding of what an amino acid profile even means in the SAA thread, or how free form amino acids even function. I'm not going to sit back while you show up being a loud-mouthed ass in yet another thread.

    Aaron pointed out other instances of you doing the same thing.

    Stop trying to play the victim as if people are jumping on you and harassing you when you show up in threads and instigate things.
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  9. And here we go.....
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    And here we go.....

  11. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    And here we go.....
    not from me bro..i said I was done
    why the focus continues to be on snagz here really is quite puzzling

    so how you doin today mang?

  12. Muscle meds Carnivore. Beef protein. And it's fairly cheap

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    I am now trying All Max Nutrition Isolfex straight away after training. 30 to 60 minutes after, I take a meal.Appreciate all the responses, thanks.
    Where do you "take" your meal?. I like to take mine to my desk and eat it while I'm using the computer.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by liftandeat View Post
    Muscle meds Carnivore. Beef protein. And it's fairly cheap
    Much better options and better value.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Much better options and better value.
    agreed
    carnivore a very poor source of beef (gelatin in fact, substandard protein)





    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    bcaa in postWO timeframe is good..dunno if I would replace protein intake in this timeframe with it tho

    there are many straight isolates that contain no lactose, stop looking at blends if this your goal

    barring that: simply have a can of tuna for your postWO protein..problem solved
    I guess my post here - the very first in response to this entire thread from anybody, a week ago in fact - is quite simply the best answer, for the thread question at hand

    glad to help

  16. Jay Robb Egg protein

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    Folks,

    I've tried Gaspari Intrapro, Myofusion, Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey, and then a various number of other uk bulk suppliers of Whey isolates, concentrates and blends. With whey coming from dairy it has lactose in it, which causes me bloating and I look a lot heavier .

    I've come to a point where I know the current whey i have tried, doesn't suit me.

    Has anyone come up with a decent post workout drink that doesn't contain any dairy? Either one they've purchased or made

    I might look for only a BCAA drink to take post training. Anyone highly recommend one?

    Thanks
    a lot of people avoid dairy because of lactose intolerance, though there are some who avoid it because of dairy allergies. in the case of lactose intolerance, there are plenty of dairy proteins that are lactose free, though you have to check the labels. essentiall, if the product claims to have no grams of sugar in it, it doesn't have lactose, though is some cases the milligrams can add up if a lot of servings were taken. there is also lactase pills that can be taken before eating dairy to digest any lactose in foods. I worry about anyone avoiding dairy because calcium aint anywhere else at any decent amount, unless youre going to eat a few cups of seseme seeds a day or 10 servings of kale DAILY. sure, you can find it added to food, but remember that's only supplemental calcium, often as carbonate (so poorly absorbed its used as a antacid because its not going into the bloodstream mostly) and a far cry from the bone-building, tissue oxygenating matrix that milk offers (containing high calcium, phosphorus, vitamin A, vitamin K etc).

    in the case of a dairy allergy, that's another matter, though ive seen plans people have used to overcome the allergy if it was something they didn't always have (ie and therefore accrued from nutritional depletions)

  18. A lot of options out there if you have to avoid dairy for post workout.
    To name a few
    Hemp
    Rice
    Pea
    Bcaas
    Egg
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  19. When it comes to post workouts I really look for a product that is going to increase my ability to recover. MGN makes a great product out there called Recovery 911. I use this after all my workouts and it works really well. I really enjoy it. I can send you samples of this product if you like. Please let me know. Send me a PM.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    not from me bro..i said I was done
    why the focus continues to be on snagz here really is quite puzzling

    so how you doin today mang?
    Well hello...
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by PricePlow View Post
    Pure isolates are great for most people... but have you tried pea protein? AI Sports makes one that's a pea protein / rice protein mix. Maybe it'll work better for you.
    I have this mixed from TrueProtein. I try not to eat dairy so I started using it. I am gave up red meat 2 years ago and poutry 1 year ago so I use a little powder here and there.

  22. You could try eating or if you don't have time try an Isolate like Isotean. I would guess Compete would be an adequate source with its low dose of fast absorption protein. I always drink a shake and eat a meal immediately post workout. I drink the shake on the way home and eat as soon as I get there.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    I have this mixed from TrueProtein. I try not to eat dairy so I started using it. I am gave up red meat 2 years ago and poutry 1 year ago so I use a little powder here and there.
    wow you have really limited your options there haven't you?
    I could not live w/o red meat myself; no steak? no way

  24. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    wow you have really limited your options there haven't you?
    I could not live w/o red meat myself; no steak? no way
    Yeah, I took some time off training and am getting back now. It seems my protein intake has not limited me yet as my bench was back over 400. Deadlift is creeping back up as well, I was a mid 600 puller and mid 400 bencher. I will see how it goes, as I feel better eating eggs, fish, and protein powder than I did eating meat. I eat a lot of lentils as well. I take BCAA's during workouts also.

  25. I think if you are looking for protein food is probably going to be your best bet. Do you cook at all? I would grill up some chicken and cook some steak or hamburgers for protein. These are all non dairy. What about fish? Tuna has tons of protein in one can. You can try that too

  26. Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    Yeah, I took some time off training and am getting back now. It seems my protein intake has not limited me yet as my bench was back over 400. Deadlift is creeping back up as well, I was a mid 600 puller and mid 400 bencher. I will see how it goes, as I feel better eating eggs, fish, and protein powder than I did eating meat. I eat a lot of lentils as well. I take BCAA's during workouts also.
    did you say benching 400lbs? anyone benching 300lbs belongs to a special category comprising 1% of all lifters. anyone benching 400lbs (while omitting an entire food group) truly has a gift

  27. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    did you say benching 400lbs? anyone benching 300lbs belongs to a special category comprising 1% of all lifters. anyone benching 400lbs (while omitting an entire food group) truly has a gift
    I am 36, and have been lifting a long time. My goals are a 700 dead and a 500 raw bench. I have some leg issues so squatting is done just not to the level it would allow me to compete or work up to 1 rep maxes. I started box squatting raw. I have to go see an orthopedic surgeon to see if it can be fixed but I have pretty stressful job that would not allow me to deal with surgery recovery if it was extensive. The key to lifting is not diet or supplements, it is consistency over a long period of time and a somewhat laid out plan. I am curious if my diet will hinder me or not. I don't know yet. We will see. I have to start a training log soon so maybe I will put one up here.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    I am 36, and have been lifting a long time. My goals are a 700 dead and a 500 raw bench. I have some leg issues so squatting is done just not to the level it would allow me to compete or work up to 1 rep maxes. I started box squatting raw. I have to go see an orthopedic surgeon to see if it can be fixed but I have pretty stressful job that would not allow me to deal with surgery recovery if it was extensive. The key to lifting is not diet or supplements, it is consistency over a long period of time and a somewhat laid out plan. I am curious if my diet will hinder me or not. I don't know yet. We will see. I have to start a training log soon so maybe I will put one up here.
    500lbs is a big goal for a bench; jay culter can bench 495, so youre talking about outbenching him; are you saying youre a prolifter? if not, I cant imagine why you wouldn't want some sponsors

  29. Quote Originally Posted by jcp2 View Post
    The key to lifting is not diet or supplements, it is consistency over a long period of time and a somewhat laid out plan. I am curious if my diet will hinder me or not. I don't know yet.
    very interesting (and curious) statement
    broken down:
    I agree the key to solely lifting = simply this, consistency in training over a long period of time and a somewhat laid out plan
    and genetics come into play hugely, which you mention nowhere..to have #s and strength of that stature, whether you are are steroids or not, is a genetic mutation few possess, as thescience alludes to

    however, that said:
    good nutrition will still play a (minor) role in the overall value/picture of things..think of it this way - if you are genetic freak such as you state, and eat haphazardly, imagine if you put good nutrition into the picture..results increase..how much? won't know till you try, as you said
    but trust me, a well-nourished muscle, is a happy (and more productive) muscle

    now, if we are speaking of bodycomp and physique changes/improvement, in combination with benefit of to lifting portion of your equation above -- then certainly nutrition and proper attention to this aspect becomes not just important, rather THE most important thing, and obviously has to be combined with your first point of consistent training with overall plan/direction..whether you are gentic freak or not, good nutrition can only enhance the overall picture..and while some are blessed with a genetic freaky metabolism as well and look great even with crap diet - the improvement made by incorporating a well-balanced, thoughtful and rounded nutrition plan will add to those results exponentially
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