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    How many use ephedrine for performance?


    I know I lot of people use it for fat loss but how many use it for performance and is it a better performance "drug" than Caffein?

    I use EC before workouts for performance, but just wanted to know if one is actually better than the other and what people think of ephedrine as a performance aid?

    Thanks for any input!

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    In first. I don't like it before cardio because it makes my heart rate too high. I have had it before weight training, but i prefer caffeine or a pre-workout
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    I love EC pre workout, but like 45 min to an hour before. So it hits me from the beginning on.
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    Back in the day I would. But my tolerance builds so quickly to it that it becomes frustrating very fast. Now I just use Enhanced pre-workout, obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    In first. I don't like it before cardio because it makes my heart rate too high. I have had it before weight training, but i prefer caffeine or a pre-workout
    How about with pre-workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    I love EC pre workout, but like 45 min to an hour before. So it hits me from the beginning on.
    Cool, I'll try that. I usually just take it 20-30 min before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    How about with pre-workout?
    I will try it tomorrow and let you know!
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    EC is a great preworkout option. On days when I'm looking to break from Enhanced or High Volume (new in my arsenal), it's my go-to
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    EC is a great preworkout option. On days when I'm looking to break from Enhanced or High Volume (new in my arsenal), it's my go-to
    How much EC do you use?
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    ive been taking hordenine. it's really cheap in bulk. I wouldn't say it slows digestion or kills the appetite as advertised, but I have a lot more energy all day at 3x doses. im taking more than levels typically suggested, but ive noticed no unwelcome jitters and NO crash
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    ive been taking hordenine. it's really cheap in bulk. I wouldn't say it slows digestion or kills the appetite as advertised, but I have a lot more energy all day at 3x doses. im taking more than levels typically suggested, but ive noticed no unwelcome jitters and NO crash
    Hordenine is arguably the most worthless stimulant on the market
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    How much EC do you use?
    250/25, as seen in the studies
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    250/25, as seen in the studies
    Oh nice! I haven't been that ballsy yet... Is that the most effective dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    I will try it tomorrow and let you know!
    I did 25mg Ephedrine and 2 scoops of flashover at 0600. Workout started at 0645. I had an outstanding workout session, and I am still energized. Good stuff. I did notice that I reached muscle failure faster, at least I think it was faster than normal. I may test it out again later this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    I use Primatene regularly before my workouts so I breath better...
    That is what I use, I haven't found any without Guaifenesin. Some online but the price was outrageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    I did 25mg Ephedrine and 2 scoops of flashover at 0600. Workout started at 0645. I had an outstanding workout session, and I am still energized. Good stuff. I did notice that I reached muscle failure faster, at least I think it was faster than normal. I may test it out again later this week
    Nice, thanks for getting back with us
    I'll try it in the next couple of days!
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    Ephedrine works great in small amounts to pick me throughout the day, but not for a workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    EC is a great preworkout option. On days when I'm looking to break from Enhanced or High Volume (new in my arsenal), it's my go-to
    I once chased a bronkaid with 1.5 scoops of enhanced. Iv never tried crack..but I have a feeling that the enhanced + bronkaid is a fairly similar feeling.
    It was ridiculous
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post

    I once chased a bronkaid with 1.5 scoops of enhanced. Iv never tried crack..but I have a feeling that the enhanced + bronkaid is a fairly similar feeling.
    It was ridiculous
    Damn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Damn!
    Yah it was intense. I don't think I will be doing that again..way toooooo much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Hordenine is arguably the most worthless stimulant on the market
    i'll hear any argument there is for sure, but the stuff works. i got some off of this auction site, and im sticking with it. again, i am taking a much larger dosage
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    I take 25mg with whatever pre workout supp I'm using that day. Usually 2 scoops no Xplode
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    I've gotten to taking 200 mg caffeine tab with 30 mg of ephedrine (2 tabs Primatene) and a scoop of Ultima + 1 g Agmatine + 3 g DAA and that makes for a very nice workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10tonbrick View Post
    I take 25mg with whatever pre workout supp I'm using that day. Usually 2 scoops no Xplode
    We have to get you off of that NoXplode. Have you tried Gameday by MAN? That stuff rocks. Or Prodigy. I can't stand the taste of noxplode anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post

    We have to get you off of that NoXplode. Have you tried Gameday by MAN? That stuff rocks. Or Prodigy. I can't stand the taste of noxplode anymore.
    Lol why is that? No I have not tried game day, good pumps?

    I like noxplode cause I get it on sale 50 scoops for 34$
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10tonbrick View Post
    Lol why is that? No I have not tried game day, good pumps?

    I like noxplode cause I get it on sale 50 scoops for 34$
    Great pumps, great energy. Check out Nutraplanet for some awesome deals on Pre-workouts. MAN has a special, buy a Nolvadren XT on sale, get a trial tub of Gameday. There is win all over that deal. I think a full tub is only 31$, and has 60 servings. No unnecessary fillers like NoXplode either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10tonbrick View Post

    Lol why is that? No I have not tried game day, good pumps?

    I like noxplode cause I get it on sale 50 scoops for 34$
    That's a great price! Game Day is great and yes the pumps at 1 scoop are amazing! Not sure if your looking for an estrogen/cortisol blocker but NP has MAN Nolvadren for an insane price! Plus you get a trial size of Game Day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post

    Great pumps, great energy. Check out Nutraplanet for some awesome deals on Pre-workouts. MAN has a special, buy a Nolvadren XT on sale, get a trial tub of Gameday. There is win all over that deal. I think a full tub is only 31$, and has 60 servings. No unnecessary fillers like NoXplode either.
    Cool thanks for the advice, iv been wanting to drop the noxplode for a while. Ill check it out
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    Would the nolvadren work like erase pro? I just started a halo d cycle and would add it to pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10tonbrick View Post
    Would the nolvadren work like erase pro? I just started a halo d cycle and would add it to pct
    Yes they both have the same main compound
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10tonbrick View Post
    Would the nolvadren work like erase pro? I just started a halo d cycle and would add it to pct
    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Yes they both have the same main compound
    This is quite incorrect. Erase Pro contains B. diffusa, which is comparable (and compared, in studies) to clinical anti-estrogens. It possesses SERM-esque activity, adaptogenically lowers cortisol, and conveys a variety of health benefits (which are particularly useful during PCT). E. Alatus is also in Erase Pro at an effective dose for further aromatase inhibition (competitive rather than suicidal, to create a trifecta of results).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is quite incorrect. Erase Pro contains B. diffusa, which is comparable (and compared, in studies) to clinical anti-estrogens. It possesses SERM-esque activity, adaptogenically lowers cortisol, and conveys a variety of health benefits (which are particularly useful during PCT). E. Alatus is also in Erase Pro at an effective dose for further aromatase inhibition (competitive rather than suicidal, to create a trifecta of results).
    I think Pete was comparing Erase and Nolvadren XT. I missed the word 'Pro' the first time I read it as well.
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    I just meant the main compound androst-3,5. Not the other compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    I think Pete was comparing Erase and Nolvadren XT. I missed the word 'Pro' the first time I read it as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    I just meant the main compound androst-3,5. Not the other compounds.
    Ah, gotcha. I think the potency of the other compounds in Erase Pro honestly doesn't get the credit it deserves. B. Diffusa is no joke:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19723573

    In this study, B Diffusa in the proper extract was found to be as effective as Faslodex, an incredibly strong clinical anti-estrogen.

    Ask someone who's run Erase and Erase Pro at 75mg a day which one dried them out more and was a stronger anti-estrogen. Erase is a great AI, but Erase Pro has no equal in terms of potency, something which should be considered heavily during PCT.
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    I've always wanted to try erase pro.

    I've used OG erase and of course Nolvadren and I always got great results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Ah, gotcha. I think the potency of the other compounds in Erase Pro honestly doesn't get the credit it deserves. B. Diffusa is no joke:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19723573

    In this study, B Diffusa in the proper extract was found to be as effective as Faslodex, an incredibly strong clinical anti-estrogen.

    Ask someone who's run Erase and Erase Pro at 75mg a day which one dried them out more and was a stronger anti-estrogen. Erase is a great AI, but Erase Pro has no equal in terms of potency, something which should be considered heavily during PCT.
    I actually like OG Erase better than Pro, but I never used in a PCT though...
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    Cool thanks guys. Would that with tamox be overkill ? I don't want an estrogen rebound

    Sorry for thread high jack this is good info
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