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    I didn't see any other threads regarding the release of the new jacked. I loved the original but was disappointed with micro. What are your thoughts on the ingredients?

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    decent. hard to tell since its prop.

    nothing against this product because obviously i havent tried it yet, but id rather make my own pre workout.


    something that has been working for me is using my own ingredients as well as adding maybe 1/4 scoop of my pre workout of choice. still get a slight stim effect but saves me money. I prefer a stronger stim while doing this protocol because i am only using 1/4 of a scoop or so. something like enhanced or muscle marinade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    decent. hard to tell since its prop.

    nothing against this product because obviously i havent tried it yet, but id rather make my own pre workout.

    something that has been working for me is using my own ingredients as well as adding maybe 1/4 scoop of my pre workout of choice. still get a slight stim effect but saves me money. I prefer a stronger stim while doing this protocol because i am only using 1/4 of a scoop or so. something like enhanced or muscle marinade.
    Ya I noticed the prop blend. If you don't mind me asking, what ingredients do you use in your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 More Repp View Post

    Ya I noticed the prop blend. If you don't mind me asking, what ingredients do you use in your own.
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    New formula has yohimbe in it... a lot of people get the negative sides from (myself included)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bono1132 View Post
    New formula has yohimbe in it... a lot of people get the negative sides from (myself included)
    Their extract is not standardized for yohimbine, so you really shouldn't find it as harsh as yohimbine-standardized extracts.

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    Overall, it's a huge improvement over the original jack3d. Arginine Nitrate/Pinus Pinaster is a huge improvement over AAKG, and the new stim blend is pretty effective in a post-DMAA non-eth-spiked world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Their extract is not standardized for yohimbine, so you really shouldn't find it as harsh as yohimbine-standardized extracts.

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    Overall, it's a huge improvement over the original jack3d. Arginine Nitrate/Pinus Pinaster is a huge improvement over AAKG, and the new stim blend is pretty effective in a post-DMAA non-eth-spiked world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    The last few USPlabs releases, including this, test powder, and the protein, have been exceptional. Hoping the trend continues
    I agree.. I thought they were moving in the wrong direction with versa 1 and micro but this looks solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 More Repp View Post
    I agree.. I thought they were moving in the wrong direction with versa 1 and micro but this looks solid.
    what's wrong with Micro?

    If you say it's not DMAA, that doesn't count.

    VERSA-1 is my personal favorite...Its a little ahead of its time...

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    I prefer Micro to the OG version. Micro is for the more educated consumer.

    It is still really common for people on UK forums to refer to the OG Jack3d as the king of pre workouts. I would be curious to know how many units it sold. The figure would be astronomical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I prefer Micro to the OG version. Micro is for the more educated consumer.

    It is still really common for people on UK forums to refer to the OG Jack3d as the king of pre workouts. I would be curious to know how many units it sold. The figure would be astronomical.

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    I would still buy some if I could.

    I could get the ingredients in bulk but I am nostalgic about the product lol.

    Also, USP Labs always have incredible flavouring from the few products I have tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    It is still really common for people on UK forums to refer to the OG Jack3d as the king of pre workouts. I would be curious to know how many units it sold. The figure would be astronomical.
    The FDA strong-armed them into 'voluntarily' destroyed $8 MILLION dollars worth of original formula Jack3d and OEP.

    That's just how much USPLabs had in storage at one time at their warehouse. Now imagine how much is out there in supply chain, and you start to see a picture of just how much volume it was/is moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    The FDA strong-armed them into 'voluntarily' destroyed $8 MILLION dollars worth of original formula Jack3d and OEP.

    That's just how much USPLabs had in storage at one time at their warehouse. Now imagine how much is out there in supply chain, and you start to see a picture of just how much volume it was/is moving.
    That puts regular supplement sales into an emasculated perspective lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    The FDA strong-armed them into 'voluntarily' destroyed $8 MILLION dollars worth of original formula Jack3d and OEP.

    That's just how much USPLabs had in storage at one time at their warehouse. Now imagine how much is out there in supply chain, and you start to see a picture of just how much volume it was/is moving.
    probably not much more...people are buying it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    probably not much more...people are buying it up
    True, still #1/#2 best sellers here on nutraplanet

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    I think micro is a great pwo in my opinion and I loved the OG jack3d! Versa-1 stavked with it gave me tremendous gains in size and strength as well. I'm extremely happy with the direction USPLABS is taking in the supplement world. Keep up the great work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 More Repp View Post
    I agree.. I thought they were moving in the wrong direction with versa 1 and micro but this looks solid.
    what was it you disliked about versa and micro?
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    Micro formula is actually very well put together. Energy is there and pumps are excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 More Repp View Post

    I agree.. I thought they were moving in the wrong direction with versa 1 and micro but this looks solid.
    Yeah I tried versa three times. Came to the conclusion the first time was placebo. Many others love versa, just not for me.
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    still love me some jack3d micro!
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    That's just my opinion though I didn't mean to piss anyone off. Everyone reacts differently to products

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    i didnt take any offense to it. Just like i dont like versa, many people do. to each his own. we all like different stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    i didnt take any offense to it. Just like i dont like versa, many people do. to each his own. we all like different stuff!
    That's true man well put!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    i hated OG jack3d
    So did I. It just didn't do much for me but I never could say that because people would go off on me. Tried 3 containers of it with breaks, different dosages, everything. They just didn't do much for me. But I like their other products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 More Repp View Post
    That's true man well put!
    strange i loved jack3d micro even before i read all the reviews of it, i dont know why i must respond so well to it for some reason but i have had some of the best workouts ever with it, and this is with the day 1 batch of the stuff so im not sure if USP labs have changed the formula or anything but i loved it from what i tried

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    I started the new jack3d earlier this week. One scoop is enough for me and I got some sick pumps. No noticeable sides for me. But every individual responds different

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post

    The FDA strong-armed them into 'voluntarily' destroyed $8 MILLION dollars worth of original formula Jack3d and OEP.

    That's just how much USPLabs had in storage at one time at their warehouse. Now imagine how much is out there in supply chain, and you start to see a picture of just how much volume it was/is moving.
    Personally love micro. Side note that I have been wondering... What is the approximate net worth of some of these companies? From like usplabs to controlled labs and pes. Just curious. (And no I do not have the time/scientific knowledge of no hype and coop/ or drive to start my own company. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afi140 View Post
    Personally love micro. Side note that I have been wondering... What is the approximate net worth of some of these companies? From like usplabs to controlled labs and pes. Just curious. (And no I do not have the time/scientific knowledge of no hype and coop/ or drive to start my own company. )
    -If you think you need scientific knowledge to start a supplement company, you're wrong.
    -Most companies are not publicly traded so have no public release of financials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post

    -If you think you need scientific knowledge to start a supplement company, you're wrong.
    -Most companies are not publicly traded so have no public release of financials.

    BSN Sold to Glanbia in 2011 for $144m.
    Lol. I know. I watched Cahill's deposition. I could hire and endocrinologist to look at a label .. I personally would have to know much more and frankly have no desire. I know most companies are started by enthusiasts. Thanks for the info deeb!
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    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...
    I had a few sample packs of jack3d micro and loved it. My only complaint was i got the cherry flavor and I'm not a big fan of cherries lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    Jack3d Micro is a Pump and Performance beast...

    Its ironic, DMAA jack3d was just "stims" in a bottle and Micro is not "stimmy" enough...People seemto over look the Nitrate, Agmatine, Citrulline combo (some will say the non stim holy grail for pump and performance)...You know the same combo praised in another Pre workout on this board....

    Fact of the matter, it doesn't matter...Hate just too hate is the norm now...
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post

    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Pumps were alright with micro but let's face it, for the majority of people, taking a stimmed preworkout, we are paying for and expecting the kick from the stims. If not a kick in the energy department then at least a kick in the focus/concentration department. Personally, I just was not a fan of the micro, wasn't what I wanted from a preworkout but it tasted delicious and I'm glad that the product has found plenty of love from those whom swear by it.

    Pump was not bad with micro but calling it a performance beast? Performance is subjective as different people have different views on what performance should be for them.
    Someone that directly references ad copy in another thread should read the copy. We didn't promise the user crazy energy.

    Ingredients that have a direct effect on performance is not subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.
    So much science talk, but if you put it that way, ok, I would have to agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    It can be objectively stated that the combination of performance-targeting ingredients in J3D Micro will improve performance via such ubiquitous metrics as power output, time to failure, repetitions, and energy efficiency. This can be stated because of studies demonstrating this to be true of these ingredients.
    said Eloquently..

    but his response goes back to "Hate just to hate mentality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    said Eloquently..

    but his response goes back to "Hate just to hate mentality."
    How so? I stated clearly that it wasn't my cup of tea and also stated clearly that many others swear by it. In no way am I hating on it just to hate on it. Just didn't work for me. I bought a tub and the thing lasted me roughly 5 months or so, why? Because I didn't really like using it that much. Not upset by it, I still consider Super Cissus a quality product.

    Now, if you wanted it to be a hate just to hate on it mentality-type post, I would have just called it the worst preworkout ever put out

    Not saying that though, ha ha. Definitely not saying that.

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