7-KETO or NA-R-ALA?
- 07-18-2013, 02:00 PM
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07-18-2013, 03:16 PM
would be great to get information boutthourgh my research as i get it is a antioxidant which promote fatloss. any effets in lean mass though?
07-18-2013, 06:37 PM
Na-R-ALA out of those two.
07-18-2013, 07:07 PM
07-18-2013, 11:02 PM
7-keto is bunk orally.
Na-R-ALA is more of a fat loss adjuvant.
Forskolin can be used at any period (cutting/bulking) and is your best bet. Check out Sabinsa-licensed Forskolin-95 from Analyzed Supplements
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
07-19-2013, 01:57 AM
Forskolin has recently become a staple for me. I use it in tropinol xp right now, and synthetic supplements when not on tropinol xp.
07-19-2013, 12:17 PM
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07-20-2013, 09:56 AM
If you are worried that much much about insulin R-ala should help with that at least that is what the studies say cinnamon helps as well apple cider vinger there is list resveratrol i think helps again according to studies. My though eat whole food meals with fat protein and carbs it's not sexy but works the same was as all those supps for free. BTW keto 7 really only works in trans dermal application.
Go big Or go home!!
07-20-2013, 12:23 PM
07-20-2013, 12:31 PM
I never really tried NA-R-ALA. I know the studies behind it say its good stuff and helps with glucose uptake but I just control my diet for me and keep my supps to a min now a days. How ever i see you are a PES rep I love your guys stuff all of it tried many things in the past you all got a GREAT pre-work out.
Go big Or go home!!
07-20-2013, 12:48 PM
I use the transdermal very spuratically. Like today when I'm with a female and don't want the burn of eviscerate ruining anything lol
Forskolin is awesome! Higher you dose the better it seems to work for me.
Osthole is another option for bulking or cutting it also acts as a gda/insulin mimetic
07-20-2013, 04:47 PM
I am afraid of fat gain, as I lost over 100 pounds when I got started with fitness. I now want to gain muscle, but the thought of puting any of that fat back scares me.
The Glucose disposal agents are a staple of mine. My favorite is recompradol.
I cycle recompradol per the instructions on the bottle.
I also mix a table spoon of hi maze resistant startch into my protein shakes.
I take a slugger balance pill before meals that include cinnimon, fenugreek, and bitter melon.
Lastly, I use Advanced Anti-Adipocyte from life extension to prevent carbs from turning into fat.
EBF just release their metabolic powder that is similar in concept but much cheeper than than the life extension product so I am trying that out.
07-20-2013, 05:49 PM
07-20-2013, 05:54 PM
I used forskolin in ABE and it worked wonders but I found out I put on water way quicker than fat. I added slinsane in the mix and am able to stay lean during a lean bulk with a decent amount of carbs.
07-20-2013, 06:09 PM
07-20-2013, 07:53 PM
My blood sugar runs a little high and carbs just elevate my blood sugar more if I eat too many. Try using fats for more of your excess calories, like peanut butter (get one w/o extra sugar), olive oil, coconut oil, and walnuts almonds.
I'm using usp anabolic pump for carb control, just started so dont have any feedback on it yet.
Also a fan of forskolin. Have used Tropinol XP and bio forge pro max. Both worked well for me.
07-20-2013, 07:56 PM
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07-21-2013, 02:49 PM
This is the link to metabolic powder
As far as the osthole you need to search around for cnidium extract. I recommend buying it in bulk and dose it at 1-2g per day of the 20% extract.
07-22-2013, 07:27 PM
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