1st Nootropic stack for studying/motivation

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  1. It's crazy how everyone reacts differently to stuff. I get tunnel vision from focus XT. Enhanced however, gives me nothing. I might be the only person on the site that doesn't respond to it.


  2. I have a tub of ALCAR that I bought along w/ the Focus XT. I'm gonna go ahead and just use that on its own to see how it effects me..
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by CincyKiller45 View Post
    It's crazy how everyone reacts differently to stuff. I get tunnel vision from focus XT. Enhanced however, gives me nothing. I might be the only person on the site that doesn't respond to it.
    Just the nature of natural supplements. Alcar in general does nothing for me no matter the dose, and a lot of people on here rave about it.

    I'd like to throw out Rhodiola as something to add to the stack as well. While not known for cognitive benefits, it does really help the body cope with stress and we all know that stress kills concentration and hurts the mind. It's a staple for me and when I stop taking it, I can feel it.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Just the nature of natural supplements. Alcar in general does nothing for me no matter the dose, and a lot of people on here rave about it.

    I'd like to throw out Rhodiola as something to add to the stack as well. While not known for cognitive benefits, it does really help the body cope with stress and we all know that stress kills concentration and hurts the mind. It's a staple for me and when I stop taking it, I can feel it.
    Yea rhodiola is marketed as a supp to help the adrenal glands and the efficient production of cortisol, etc.. I tried some this past Fall and honestly didn't notice anything... It's not to say it doesn't work, as we have all noticed these things are hit or miss..A home run or a strike out...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Just the nature of natural supplements. Alcar in general does nothing for me no matter the dose, and a lot of people on here rave about it.

    I'd like to throw out Rhodiola as something to add to the stack as well. While not known for cognitive benefits, it does really help the body cope with stress and we all know that stress kills concentration and hurts the mind. It's a staple for me and when I stop taking it, I can feel it.
    I will say that PLCAR (despite being promoted as the Performance carnitine) I have noticed profound mental clarity.. Especially after a workout..My thoughts and translated into words better, memory recall is sharper, etc...Plus it leans you out a little bit despite caloric intake
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  6. Interesting. I have never tried plcar, but most studies I have read about it showed that it is generally beneficial for overall fatigue, which Rhodiola takes care of for me. I haven't read much about the mental benefits because most studies then start to focus on Alcar.

  7. Just an FYI.. Focus XT starts to really shine a couple weeks in. The acute effects are nice, however the cumulative effects with prolonged usage are phenomenal. Don't give up on it quite yet.

    I also suggest people purchase 2 tubs, that way you can truly appreciate the effects over an 8 week course. You can even add in a little bulk ALCAR and some Na-R-ALA.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Just an FYI.. Focus XT starts to really shine a couple weeks in. The acute effects are nice, however the cumulative effects with prolonged usage are phenomenal. Don't give up on it quite yet.

    I also suggest people purchase 2 tubs, that way you can truly appreciate the effects over an 8 week course. You can even add in a little bulk ALCAR and some Na-R-ALA.

    I have ALCAR. I tried dosing it separately today but honestly hadn't noticed anything.. I'd hope I could notice something after 4 weeks use before buying another tub..I've been advised to start w/ a half a scoop as the choline from 1 full scoop was likely what made me tired last time...

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    I have ALCAR. I tried dosing it separately today but honestly hadn't noticed anything.. I'd hope I could notice something after 4 weeks use before buying another tub..I've been advised to start w/ a half a scoop as the choline from 1 full scoop was likely what made me tired last time...
    Certainly listen to the SNS reps, they know there stuff especially when it comes to this product.

    Haven't heard of too many people having that side effect from Choline, albeit I recognize it's possible.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Certainly listen to the SNS reps, they know there stuff especially when it comes to this product.

    Haven't heard of too many people having that side effect from Choline, albeit I recognize it's possible.
    Hopefully I'll notice something in the next week or so

  11. Anyone try Craze + Demiurge? I love Craze for the tunnel vision effect and just got two bottles of Demiurge....might give it a go!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ninjo View Post
    Anyone try Craze + Demiurge? I love Craze for the tunnel vision effect and just got two bottles of Demiurge....might give it a go!
    Sounds like a great stack. I've heard a lot of good things about Demiurge but haven't tried it. It will be the next supp I get.

  13. The tunnel vision effect is coming from the phenylpiracetam in Demiurge.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    The tunnel vision effect is coming from the phenylpiracetam in Demiurge.
    How would you compare Phenylpiracetam (in Demiurge) to others such as Aniracetam and Prami..?

  15. Look back about 20 posts and I broke down the differences for me in some detail.

    Phenyl- overall body energy and "awakening" feeling of the mind. Lifts fog.
    Prami- just an anxious energy like too much caffeine. Very energizing, but not good for people like me that lean towards slight anxiety.
    Ani- Hands down the best social noot. Pulls together thoughts, good for public speaking, and a moderate anxiolytic. Doesn't seem to support learning, but rather taking what you already have in your brain and putting it together.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    How would you compare Phenylpiracetam (in Demiurge) to others such as Aniracetam and Prami..?
    Falls short in comparison to Aniracetam, oxi, etc My favorite was Piracetam

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Falls short in comparison to Aniracetam, oxi, etc My favorite was Piracetam
    What did you notice w/ the Piracetam?

  18. anyone tried noopept? its the newest nootropic out and is 1000x stronger than piracetam hence only need a 10mg dose. I was curious about it so I got some in going to try some today actually, he.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
    anyone tried noopept? its the newest nootropic out and is 1000x stronger than piracetam hence only need a 10mg dose. I was curious about it so I got some in going to try some today actually, he.
    Let us know how it goes? I was curious about that one

  20. I like demiurge and focus xt a lot

  21. I can only get phenyl here so my only experience is with Demiurge and Focus XT. The combo worked well for me during periods of intense study and cramming.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by drseuss6969 View Post
    I like demiurge and focus xt a lot
    I use Focus-Xt as a sleep aid.... :/

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    I use Focus-Xt as a sleep aid.... :/
    Try dosing down it may just be overloading you. Some people have to get used to it.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Try dosing down it may just be overloading you. Some people have to get used to it.
    I've been doin that the past few days... Seems that when I half the dose I'm not getting enough of the other ingredients to create that nootropic effect we're all lookin for...I'll keep at it tho

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    I've been doin that the past few days... Seems that when I half the dose I'm not getting enough of the other ingredients to create that nootropic effect we're all lookin for...I'll keep at it tho
    What sort of nootropic effects do you expect to feel?
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    Biochemistry Major
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