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    Ok, thanks for the super awesome insight on this one.
    Our name has been cleared. The products in question from AX past were ingredients from Matt Cahill. NEXT!

    Sorry for trying to keep you informed.
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    Yeah I know I deleted my post after second thought.
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    Although nothing has been proven against DS so the athletic xtreme posts on Facebook are misleading .
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    Not trying to mislead.
    Have you seen the new info from PA and Ron Kramer's lab tests (the tests have been coming in almost every week).
    Each result showing ETH in the product, even though DS is claiming otherwise.
    Interesting that they are having product tested clean, it seems someone may be sending in a product that is less Craze-y than what others are getting.
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    Yes I'm reading through the muck of the PA thread but I can't see how anything is pending when BB is still selling it. They usually run and hide at the first sign of trouble .
    I've used craze when it first came out and later on and I did notice the second run was not nearly as effective . I just hate to see a smear job before all the facts are out.
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    Im assuming bb com will be pulling it in the near future
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    But why be in the forefront of smashing them when you don't actually compete with craze . Not to bash supersize I've tried it but I can think of 10 better options .
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    Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
    But why be in the forefront of smashing them when you don't actually compete with craze .
    I don't think we are bashing, we are simply passing on relavant info that is getting deleted everywhere else. In the article it clearly states the DS position and that they have refuted and done tests showing negative results.

    Why would we post the article? Simple answer, we don't like DS. We used to be partnered with DS. They licensed us products that had things in them that were not on the label (Turkesterone, Divanil, etc). They also were raided back in 2008 (or 2009) and worked with the FDA as informants against our company (and many others) at the same time we were sending them royalty payments. They worked with the FDA as informants for a product that we licensed from them, SuperDrol. There is a lot more but we will get into this later.

    Right now it's plain and simple. You have two government agencies and now independent labs saying the stuff has ETH in it. Then you have GNC and BB.com pulling Gaspari Detonate for the same reason and they license the ingredient from DS. That's good enough for an informative article in our book.

    Everyone is playing hide and seek. Sending links around in PM's and whispering rumors. We stepped up and put the article out and it will stay fair and balanced with all of the latest information and results.
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    "We don't like ds"

    classy.

    ill leave this here

    h ttp://getds.com/20130701382/Blog/further-proof-that-craze-does-not-contain-amphetamines-part-two
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    In all fairness Gaspari has a checkered past as well . I also understand the animosity now that you explained it . The truth will come out at some point and I'm of the belief it's better to wait until its proven fact .
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    Once a product is shipped to a retailer you can't tell if its been tampered with . Craze needs to be tested as its coming off the line at this point . It wouldn't surprise me if it was being tainted by a out side source . Either way I don't see Optimum Nutrition publicly attacking them for example . If your company puts out solid products it doesn't matter what anyone else does .
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    detonate. clean

    h ttp://romanoroberts.com.mx/sealed-bottle-of-detonate-purchased-from-bodybuilding-com-and-lab-tested
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo1245 View Post
    detonate. clean

    h ttp://romanoroberts.com.mx/sealed-bottle-of-detonate-purchased-from-bodybuilding-com-and-lab-tested
    A great question is why are these clean lots different batch numbers than the hot ones?

    1) SKL Sweden is wrong in their laboratory analysis
    2) TGA and Australia is wrong in their lab testing
    3) WADA is wrong in their testing. They are now testing for 1-phenyl-2-butanamine and N-ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butanamine
    4) The PSI reports that ThermoLife posted are wrong.
    5) PA's testing is wrong.

    Something is strange somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AthleticXtreme View Post
    A great question is why are these clean lots different batch numbers than the hot ones?

    1) SKL Sweden is wrong in their laboratory analysis
    2) TGA and Australia is wrong in their lab testing
    3) WADA is wrong in their testing. They are now testing for 1-phenyl-2-butanamine and N-ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butanamine
    4) The PSI reports that ThermoLife posted are wrong.
    5) PA's testing is wrong.

    Something is strange somewhere.

    Lots of confusion !
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo1245 View Post
    "We don't like ds"

    classy.

    ill leave this here

    h ttp://getds.com/20130701382/Blog/further-proof-that-craze-does-not-contain-amphetamines-part-two
    Classy? I think they have 250,000 reasons not to remain classy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AthleticXtreme View Post
    The great question is why are these clean lots different batch numbers than the hot ones?

    1) SKL Sweden is wrong in their laboratory analysis
    2) TGA and Australia is wrong in their lab testing
    3) WADA is wrong in their testing. They are now testing for 1-phenyl-2-butanamine and N-ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butanamine
    4) The PSI reports that ThermoLife posted are wrong.
    5) PA's testing is wrong.

    Something is strange somewhere.
    wada testing is a joke. Pa has already stated that.

    nobody had a reference standard.

    Pa and thermolife have an agenda.

    Ds went through a year long lawsuit, they won. now people have sour grapes.

    you have an agenda.

    Its funny when you have a group of felons that served time for steroid distribution questioning other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hippo1245 View Post
    detonate. clean

    h ttp://romanoroberts.com.mx/sealed-bottle-of-detonate-purchased-from-bodybuilding-com-and-lab-tested
    Anything mentioned in that blog comes straight out of Cahill's mouth...very bias interests there

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Anything mentioned in that blog comes straight out of Cahill's mouth...very bias interests there
    right. and you believe everything ron kamer and pa say. cant wait when a competitor tests your products and lies about it. im sure you will accept the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Anything mentioned in that blog comes straight out of Cahill's mouth...very bias interests there
    mikey! dat's my dude.

    good to see someone who is a rep for another company stepping in with some logic here.
    good stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnatural View Post
    mikey! dat's my dude.

    good to see someone who is a rep for another company stepping in with some logic here.
    good stuff!

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