Nitrates, what am I doing wrong?
- 06-24-2013, 10:01 PM
Nitrates, what am I doing wrong?
Been using 1g agmatine and about 10gCM and enjoying a good to great pump each workout. Added Nutriguard Potassium nitrate (2 caps contain 195mg) at 4caps, then tried 6, then tried 8 and all dosed with 500mg of vitamin C. And I don't really notice any change in the pump department. I am very well hydrated and been dosing on an empty stomach 30-60 min before I workout along with my homemade PWO drink (BCAA, creatine, beta alanine, agmatine, CM).
I guess I could bump it to 10-12 caps and still stay within an acceptable limit. But if I am getting little or no result at 8 caps, would this make much of a difference?
What am I missing here?
- 06-24-2013, 10:13 PM
This is what is referred to as the "Law of Diminishing Returns."You are taking agmatine, a potent vasodilator. That in itself is awesome. Now in addition, you are adding a pretty steep dose of citrulline malate, another vasodilator. I would try the nitrates solo or with agmatine to see how you actually respond from baseline.I would strongly advise against using 10-12 caps of potassium nitrate. Don't ask me why though
06-24-2013, 11:18 PM
06-24-2013, 11:21 PM
I would suggest using around 5-7 capsules of the supplement. This is an adequate number of usage for this product. I think you should understand the specific properties of this supplement. It really is to be used with caution. But you are stacking it with a good product so you should be fine just try to dose it about half of what you were using before this is a maintenance dose.
06-24-2013, 11:48 PM
06-25-2013, 01:07 AM
06-25-2013, 06:45 AM
06-25-2013, 09:53 AM
Isn't there ~150mg of actual nitrates per cap? That's what I wrote down when I was researching it before I started dosing. Maybe I got wrong info.
06-25-2013, 02:59 PM
How long did you take it for? I find that pumps with nitrates are there strongest after 4-5 days of continuous use.
I believe i saw somewhere that it takes 6 days to reach "full plasma nitrate concentration", maybe mistaken.
06-25-2013, 05:06 PM
06-25-2013, 05:55 PM
And only for workouts - which I was unable to get many in during that period.
So, I should try taking it each day?
On an empty stomach is more effective?
And for about without a break?
06-25-2013, 05:56 PM
06-25-2013, 09:08 PM
06-25-2013, 09:26 PM
06-25-2013, 10:31 PM
try taking it everyday for the first 2 weeks, i notice after taking nitrates consistently i can use them 4-5 times per week and still get the same results in terms of pumps.
06-26-2013, 01:41 PM
Keep us updated!
06-26-2013, 05:34 PM
06-26-2013, 06:14 PM
06-26-2013, 11:20 PM
06-27-2013, 09:18 AM
08-11-2013, 09:14 PM
Hey Guys...thanks for all the advice. Just wanted to report back that the nutrigaurd PT is freakin awesome - I did 6 caps a day for about 1.5 weeks (plus about .5 grams of vitamin C) and then 6 caps pre-workout (3 times a week). I am pumped all the time and doing this along with using a GDA a couple of times a day works better than any non steroid test products I have tried (and *****s DAA). I mean in terms of strength, endurance and pumps. What a cheap an awesome alternative.
Intra to post workout - I am adding CM and Agmatine to my BCAA, gatorade blend (instead of having the CM and Agmatine up front).
I am afraid what might happen if I add DAA or ARA or Anabeta (or stack them...holy crap).
How long can you take this stuff at a few times a week at this dosage?
Have you got similar effects?
08-12-2013, 09:05 AM
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