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    Nitrates, what am I doing wrong?


    Been using 1g agmatine and about 10gCM and enjoying a good to great pump each workout. Added Nutriguard Potassium nitrate (2 caps contain 195mg) at 4caps, then tried 6, then tried 8 and all dosed with 500mg of vitamin C. And I don't really notice any change in the pump department. I am very well hydrated and been dosing on an empty stomach 30-60 min before I workout along with my homemade PWO drink (BCAA, creatine, beta alanine, agmatine, CM).

    I guess I could bump it to 10-12 caps and still stay within an acceptable limit. But if I am getting little or no result at 8 caps, would this make much of a difference?

    What am I missing here?

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    This is what is referred to as the "Law of Diminishing Returns."You are taking agmatine, a potent vasodilator. That in itself is awesome. Now in addition, you are adding a pretty steep dose of citrulline malate, another vasodilator. I would try the nitrates solo or with agmatine to see how you actually respond from baseline.I would strongly advise against using 10-12 caps of potassium nitrate. Don't ask me why though
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is what is referring to as the "Law of Diminishing Returns."You are taking agmatine, a potent vasodilator. That in itself is awesome. Now in addition, you are adding a pretty steep dose of citrulline malate, another vasodilator. I would try the nitrates solo or with agmatine to see how you actually respond from baseline.I would strongly advise against using 10-12 caps of potassium nitrate. Don't ask me why though
    Thanks for your response Mr Cooper. At 95mg PN per cap, what dose would you recommend?
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    I would suggest using around 5-7 capsules of the supplement. This is an adequate number of usage for this product. I think you should understand the specific properties of this supplement. It really is to be used with caution. But you are stacking it with a good product so you should be fine just try to dose it about half of what you were using before this is a maintenance dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Thanks for your response Mr Cooper. At 95mg PN per cap, what dose would you recommend?
    In conjunction with your stack, I wouldn't exceed 6 caps. Solo, you can try up to 8
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    Just try your nitrates alone!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    In conjunction with your stack, I wouldn't exceed 6 caps. Solo, you can try up to 8
    I went on this 1-1.5 grams of PN (along with agmatine and CM) dosing based on what other members found was their sweet spot. However, I will work with your recommendations Mr. Cooper. Thanks!
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    Isn't there ~150mg of actual nitrates per cap? That's what I wrote down when I was researching it before I started dosing. Maybe I got wrong info.
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    How long did you take it for? I find that pumps with nitrates are there strongest after 4-5 days of continuous use.

    I believe i saw somewhere that it takes 6 days to reach "full plasma nitrate concentration", maybe mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
    How long did you take it for? I find that pumps with nitrates are there strongest after 4-5 days of continuous use.I believe i saw somewhere that it takes 6 days to reach "full plasma nitrate concentration", maybe mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
    How long did you take it for? I find that pumps with nitrates are there strongest after 4-5 days of continuous use.

    I believe i saw somewhere that it takes 6 days to reach "full plasma nitrate concentration", maybe mistaken.
    You hit it. I only used them a few times and at 4, then 6, then 8 caps (95 mg each) over the course of about a week and one-half.
    And only for workouts - which I was unable to get many in during that period.

    So, I should try taking it each day?
    On an empty stomach is more effective?
    And for about without a break?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklac View Post
    Isn't there ~150mg of actual nitrates per cap? That's what I wrote down when I was researching it before I started dosing. Maybe I got wrong info.
    Per the bottle, 195mg per 2 caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Per the bottle, 195mg per 2 caps.
    Well, I was going off this: Potassium Nitrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklac View Post
    Well, I was going off this: Potassium Nitrate
    Wow, thanks for pointing this out. 8 caps max is now making sense.
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    try taking it everyday for the first 2 weeks, i notice after taking nitrates consistently i can use them 4-5 times per week and still get the same results in terms of pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
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    Will do! Thanks all for the advice....Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is what is referred to as the "Law of Diminishing Returns."You are taking agmatine, a potent vasodilator. That in itself is awesome. Now in addition, you are adding a pretty steep dose of citrulline malate, another vasodilator. I would try the nitrates solo or with agmatine to see how you actually respond from baseline.I would strongly advise against using 10-12 caps of potassium nitrate. Don't ask me why though
    He might blow up on the way to the gym...
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    He might blow up on the way to the gym...
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    I would not recommend going over 4 caps (~150mg per cap). ~600mg of nitrate is plenty.
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    Hey Guys...thanks for all the advice. Just wanted to report back that the nutrigaurd PT is freakin awesome - I did 6 caps a day for about 1.5 weeks (plus about .5 grams of vitamin C) and then 6 caps pre-workout (3 times a week). I am pumped all the time and doing this along with using a GDA a couple of times a day works better than any non steroid test products I have tried (and *****s DAA). I mean in terms of strength, endurance and pumps. What a cheap an awesome alternative.
    Intra to post workout - I am adding CM and Agmatine to my BCAA, gatorade blend (instead of having the CM and Agmatine up front).

    I am afraid what might happen if I add DAA or ARA or Anabeta (or stack them...holy crap).

    How long can you take this stuff at a few times a week at this dosage?
    Have you got similar effects?
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    I've used quite a few nitrate products and I like iForce's KNO3 Potassium Nitrate
  

  
 

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