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  1. Question EPHEDRINE


    I am curious about the whole ephedrine thing in the US. Per what I'm reading on wiki, it is illegal to market products containing ephedrine or ephedra alkaloids as a dietary supplement in the US. Yet ephedrine itself has never been illegal in the United States and is currently available over-the-counter, but in useless small doses in cold medicine. How do people go about getting ephedrine for a ECA stack? I thought maybe my AAS source would offer ephedrine, but they do not, nor do any of the research chem companies - yet clearly people are getting it. I suppose you can't offer a source here on the forum, but hopefully someone can explain to me what the deal is. Thanks.


  2. Products like bronkaid and primatine an have 25 and 12.5 mg per dose I believe, which when mixed with caffeine is plenty.
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  3. I'll give you my source: CVS, Walgreens both legit

    Behind the counter with the pharmacist. Same as pseudoephedrine
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  4. Cliffs: can't be marketed as dietary supplement but is available for bronchodilation use.
    It's similar in structure to pseudoephedrine obviously so it can be used to make meth so has to be bought with an ID.
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  5. Okay. I assumed incorrectly that cold medicine doses were much smaller than what would be used in a ECA stack. I've purchased real Sudafed many times from the Walgreens Pharmacy.

  6. Try a local pharmacy, you can buy Bronkaid behind the counter. Some stores don't carry it but just keep on looking and you will find it.

  7. I haven't used it in years so I don't know what has changed but back when it was first made "illegal," it could still legally be purchased in doses of 10mg and under. It was just a matter of getting a big bottle of 10mg tablets from a Canadian store online.

  8. Good info.

  9. Bronkaid is best because its a full dose. CVS has it again. It was off the shelves under recall for a while.
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  10. And it's $14 for 60 pills.
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  11. Primatene was about $6 dont know the count, just askd yesterday (cvs). And walgreens has their brand of primatene pretty cheap as well

  12. Anyone know of hazards taking E with nitrates?

  13. Ephedrine Bacon stack.

  14. health an vitality dot com

  15. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    health an vitality dot com
    That's not real ephed.

  16. While I personally have not ordered from them Rob Regish who does the Blue Print on SHR says its GTG Ephedrine HCL.

  17. Here's what their site says:

    "What is EPH 40. EPH40 is now produced and refined under FDA regulations as a pure white crystalline substance that is both stronger and more reliable than the original preparations. Because it is now produced under pharmaceutical conditions it is also less likely to cause some of the side effects associated with Ephedrine\Ephedra use 20 years ago."

    To me that seems to be a creative and tricky way of saying it's not actually ephedrine. But leaves you wondering what the F it is. I can't imagine anyone taking something like this without know for sure just what it is. Let's contact them an find out! US meth laws prevent ephed from being sold in it's "pure white crystalline form" so it couldn't be that unless it was illegal. Which would be very cool, but I don't think that's the case.

  18. Walmart has bronkaid
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Grambo View Post
    I'll give you my source: CVS, Walgreens both legit

    Behind the counter with the pharmacist. Same as pseudoephedrine
    Dayum bro, you an I got the same source! Small world!
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  20. Lots of sites to order ephedrine hcl from canada, 5-6 dollars a bottle.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Lots of sites to order ephedrine hcl from canada, 5-6 dollars a bottle.
    Gorilla Jack was the one I was familiar, selling the Kaizen brand, and with and from what I have been told they are no longer shipping to the US

  22. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post

    Gorilla Jack was the one I was familiar, selling the Kaizen brand, and with and from what I have been told they are no longer shipping to the US
    Tons of sites in Canada to choose from.
    I recommend 4ever fit brand.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by 1976pianoman View Post
    Here's what their site says:

    "What is EPH 40. EPH40 is now produced and refined under FDA regulations as a pure white crystalline substance that is both stronger and more reliable than the original preparations. Because it is now produced under pharmaceutical conditions it is also less likely to cause some of the side effects associated with Ephedrine\Ephedra use 20 years ago."

    To me that seems to be a creative and tricky way of saying it's not actually ephedrine. But leaves you wondering what the F it is. I can't imagine anyone taking something like this without know for sure just what it is. Let's contact them an find out! US meth laws prevent ephed from being sold in it's "pure white crystalline form" so it couldn't be that unless it was illegal. Which would be very cool, but I don't think that's the case.
    I noticed that too. Nowhere do they actually state what the product is. Like I said, I was basing my info off what Rob has stated. He mentioned that he has persoanlly placed ordered with them. He also mentioned that you can purchase/import up to 9 grams per month but also mentioned that some state law may differ than his.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Tons of sites in Canada to choose from.
    I recommend 4ever fit brand.
    Do you know of any that will ship to the US?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post

    Do you know of any that will ship to the US?
    4ever fit ephedrine hcl pure 8mg

    Google that, you'll find one.
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  26. OMG. Wow. 4 Ever Fit: "Each tab contains 8mg pure ephedrine hcl with no binders & fillers." Throw in some red phosphorus, iodine, muriatic acid and sodium hydroxide and you have yourself a party.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    4ever fit ephedrine hcl pure 8mg

    Google that, you'll find one.
    Sure I can use Google I thought you might be able to mention one that you have personal experience ordering from.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    Sure I can use Google I thought you might be able to mention one that you have personal experience ordering from.
    Due to the nature of what we're talking about, it's probably in everybody's best interest to not publicly disclose a company that breaks the law by shipping pure ephed to the US. That's probably why he's telling you to use Google. If it's revealed here then chances are good that such a company could eventually be shut down and then we're all out of luck. Plus this site might get into trouble. Pure ephed is a special thing. The DEA does not like it. There are binders and fillers in US ephed products that make the reduction into meth close to an impossibility (even though clandestine chemists are finding ways to do it.) I don't like the idea of putting freaky binders targeted at meth cooks into my body. I don't even know that these binders are extensively tested by the FDA. So pure stuff is kinda cool to come by.

  29. This is a great product you should def look into it. I think that you will find it is effective and beneficial to your body. I used this product last year and had amazing results from it. Make sure you follow the proper dosing when using it and don't over do it at all. It can be dangerous if this happens. Make sure you follow all instructions and details concerning this supplement. Good luck with your stack I hope it works for you.

  30. Bump for info on E taken alongside nitrates....anything to even discuss?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by good2Badawg View Post
    Bump for info on E taken alongside nitrates....anything to even discuss?
    Nitrates should help reduce any cardiovascular side effects associated with EC
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post

    Sure I can use Google I thought you might be able to mention one that you have personal experience ordering from.
    Rules. Google that exact phrase I use, and you'll find it.
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  34. I cannot find any information that suggest Ephedrine HCL in its pure form is illegal to possess or purchase. I can find all sorts of laws, acts, and regulations regarding the sale of Ephedrine HCL. While Rob suggested it is legal to purcashe 9g a month, the informaiton on Wikipedia suggest that the maximum legal amount to be purchased via mail order is 7.5 grams per month.

    From the way I'm reading the informaiton the marketing of Ephedrine HCL in dietary supplements was banned but the ephedrine itself was not.

    I would really like to get some soild info on what the laws/rules are regarding Ephedrine HCL

  35. Quote Originally Posted by 1976pianoman View Post
    Here's what their site says:

    "What is EPH 40. EPH40 is now produced and refined under FDA regulations as a pure white crystalline substance that is both stronger and more reliable than the original preparations. Because it is now produced under pharmaceutical conditions it is also less likely to cause some of the side effects associated with Ephedrine\Ephedra use 20 years ago."

    To me that seems to be a creative and tricky way of saying it's not actually ephedrine. But leaves you wondering what the F it is. I can't imagine anyone taking something like this without know for sure just what it is. Let's contact them an find out! US meth laws prevent ephed from being sold in it's "pure white crystalline form" so it couldn't be that unless it was illegal. Which would be very cool, but I don't think that's the case.

    Got an email back from them and per their reply the product is pure Ephedrine HCL. It is the only ingredient on the label.

  36. Quote Originally Posted by 1976pianoman View Post
    Due to the nature of what we're talking about, it's probably in everybody's best interest to not publicly disclose a company that breaks the law by shipping pure ephed to the US.
    By the way I am reading the information, I am not so sure it is illegal for a company to sell the product into the US. Maybe I'm wrong.

  37. Meh. 8 mg tabs you can find online would be cheaper. You're allowed 7.4 GRAMS before customs stops you. This limit is monthly.

    It is illegal to sell as a supplement but not illegal to posses.
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  38. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post

    I noticed that too. Nowhere do they actually state what the product is. Like I said, I was basing my info off what Rob has stated. He mentioned that he has persoanlly placed ordered with them. He also mentioned that you can purchase/import up to 9 grams per month but also mentioned that some state law may differ than his.
    Much easier to go to Walgreens and buy a pack of Bronkaid.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    Much easier to go to Walgreens and buy a pack of Bronkaid.

    This is true and it is what I do most often, but I must say I do feel those 8mg tabs he was referencing seem to work a tad better...probably because you get a bit more active in them.
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  40. Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue View Post
    I cannot find any information that suggest Ephedrine HCL in its pure form is illegal to possess or purchase. I can find all sorts of laws, acts, and regulations regarding the sale of Ephedrine HCL. While Rob suggested it is legal to purcashe 9g a month, the informaiton on Wikipedia suggest that the maximum legal amount to be purchased via mail order is 7.5 grams per month.

    From the way I'm reading the informaiton the marketing of Ephedrine HCL in dietary supplements was banned but the ephedrine itself was not.

    I would really like to get some soild info on what the laws/rules are regarding Ephedrine HCL
    Ephedrine is illegal to sell as a weight loss supplement.
    It can be sold for what it was made for, bronchodiolation.
    As previously stated, it isn't sold in pure form and highly regulated.
    But is not illegal. Though it may cause attention if you order like 20 bottles of ephedrine from Canada.
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