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  1. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post

    How am I being a douche sir?
    My comment was in the form of a question to you and you replied with a condescending remark. Whatever move on.


  2. another whole food-protein shake debate......sigh
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  3. Looks like we finally shut the troll up

  4. Just eat it! eat the **** out of what ever get it down find a dam appetite. you will grow. you are what ya eat!!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    I cant believe this retard doesn't get that you can't do a study on this shiz..And why the fug wud anyone wanna live off protein shakes?! Here's one variable that no study will be able to pinpoint. No two people metabolize food the exact same way.
    By your grammar, you're far too intelligent for me to compete with.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    MuscleFrogs... I will try to be honest wiff you, there are NNOOOOOOOOOOOOO Studies ASSSS noone would take on such a thing... You NEED WHOLE FOODS FROGER......... There is No Way WPI is going 2 fit dat bill..
    Hi Touey, you're basing that on nothing. Quite literally, by definition, you are basing that on nothing.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    Use common sense here, when you eat something, think about each step of digestion. Your body is designed for solid real food.
    I know it is, but protein powder is real food. It's whey. And it is delivering protein.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    and this is what happens when we get all sciency

    the body is not a textbook
    Love it when people use the word "sciency" - you're right, there's nothing "sciency" about the human body, and there's definitely no textbooks about the human body. Such valid points you've made. Hope next time you go to the doctor, you tell him not to be sciency when examining your body

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Those two can't really be compared fairly and you sort of stated that. A piece of meat that is equivalent in protein content to a protein shake has many additional factors (fat, calories, etc.).
    Hi Aleks, I know, would like to see if those additional factors, fat, calories, etc. actually have a significant difference in muscle growth.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post

    By your grammar, you're far too intelligent for me to compete with.
    What's wrong with my grammar? Lmao i misspelled the curses so they don't look like this *******

  11. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    How am I being a douche sir?
    Don't be offended, you should know that Mike is an insecure defensive numnut who, with the most sincere form of idiocy, lamely attacks anyone who shows him that he's in actuality, an idiot.

  12. Dude you are seriously retarted. This earth would be better off without you wasting valuable air

  13. Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Hi Touey, you're basing that on nothing. Quite literally, by definition, you are basing that on nothing.
    I know, actually maybe some will have a base for studying the comparison & who knows it shall turn up with wpi having for the better than wholefoods, but when I have too much whey for my personally I feel less from the benefit vs wholefoods...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Dude you are seriously retarted. This earth would be better off without you wasting valuable air
    Whoooa, I don't know how to recover from your witticisms. They're far too clever for me

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    I know, actually maybe some will have a base for studying the comparison & who knows it shall turn up with wpi having for the better than wholefoods, but when I have too much whey for my personally I feel less from the benefit vs wholefoods...
    That's at least fair and rational - unlike some members on this thread.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Hi Aleks, I know, would like to see if those additional factors, fat, calories, etc. actually have a significant difference in muscle growth.
    You're seriously questioning whether or not extra calories contribute to muscle growth!? What's next...questioning whether testosterone makes a significant difference?
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You're seriously questioning whether or not extra calories contribute to muscle growth!? What's next...questioning whether testosterone makes a significant difference?
    That is what he was saying in the other thread. I think he is under the illusion that protein alone dictates weight gain, at least this is how I interpreted it
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You're seriously questioning whether or not extra calories contribute to muscle growth!? What's next...questioning whether testosterone makes a significant difference?
    Yes, that is exactly what I am questioning. If there is not a scientific study proving it does, it would be irrational to not question it. Does that not make sense to you. And I am not talking about mass, I am talking about muscle mass. Obviously more calories will increase mass, but which.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    That is what he was saying in the other thread. I think he is under the illusion that protein alone dictates weight gain, at least this is how I interpreted it
    Misinterpreted. Not discussing weight gain. Discussing muscle gain.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    Yes, that is exactly what I am questioning. If there is not a scientific study proving it does, it would be irrational to not question it. Does that not make sense to you. And I am not talking about mass, I am talking about muscle mass. Obviously more calories will increase mass, but which.
    FFS, you're just a lost cause. There are an incalculable number of factors that play into the hypertrophic response beyond a specific macronutrient. It's irrational to not understand how mutlifaceted this equation is and that there will never be a definitive statement that will apply to everyone based on simple percentages and genetics. You first need to initiate an appropriate metabolic response before any hypertrophy can occur and, again, there will never be a universal approach to this. You then have to take into account genetic factors, lifestyle, age, work capacity, caloric intake, insulin responses, etc.. However, what you're essentially questioning is thermodynamics and those are proven laws of physics.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by MusclesFrogs View Post
    I know it is, but protein powder is real food. It's whey. And it is delivering protein.
    No it's not it processed food per digested for you.

  22. guy is making friends so rapidly!
    his stay here is certain to be enjoyable

  23. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    guy is making friends so rapidly!
    his stay here is certain to be enjoyable
    I don't see "his stay here" being very long lol
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    FFS, you're just a lost cause. There are an incalculable number of factors that play into the hypertrophic response beyond a specific macronutrient. It's irrational to not understand how mutlifaceted this equation is and that there will never be a definitive statement that will apply to everyone based on simple percentages and genetics. You first need to initiate an appropriate metabolic response before any hypertrophy can occur and, again, there will never be a universal approach to this. You then have to take into account genetic factors, lifestyle, age, work capacity, caloric intake, insulin responses, etc.. However, what you're essentially questioning is thermodynamics and those are proven laws of physics.
    You're wrong, you're just obfuscating the issue by misdirecting the intent. You can definitely do studies with a large enough sample group to account for variable that still shows a consistent value. And the averaged data will account for anomalies.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    No it's not it processed food per digested for you.
    So are hot dogs, but those would be considered a real food.
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