Thoughts on X-gels and Arachidonic acid in general?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I will give it another run. Is the SNS version coming to UK at a better price point than XFactor?
    BDCC,

    I PM'd you awhile back about me adding in ArA to Enhanced. I'm about halfway through both bottles and the results have been fantastic. Pumps were definitely on another level with Enhanced by itself, but taking GMS/ArA at 1.5g 45 minutes preworkout followed by Enhanced 15-20 minutes preworkout has shown me that the pumps from Enhanced were just the beginning. There is a dramatic and noticeable pump effect that kicks in about halfway through the workout (moreso on the upper body days compared to lower... I usually can "feel" the pump more than see it on the leg days especially during heavy front squats or leg press).Vascularity becomes more apparent and the "pump pains" kick in many reps earlier than usual. I have kicked my ArA dosage up to 2g and the results have only compounded. However, unlike what most are saying about all day pumps... I don't feel this as much. I feel like I balloon up when I'm in the gym and that feeling may last for a few hours postworkout, but then I feel like I go back to normal. Now this may be a mental thing and I may still able be that pumped post workout, but I don't feel the pump "sensation" hours afterwards. Dosing ArA (not cycling fish oil either) this high has not lengthened or heightened DOMS in any way.

    Current dosages are as follows:
    - 45 minutes pre: 4 scoops Glycergrow + 8 X-Factor (2g)
    - 20 minutes pre: 1 to 1.25 scoops Enhanced
    - Intra: 2 scoops PurplE WrAAth + 0.5 scoops Enhanced

    My only advice: DRINK TONS OF WATER!

    I need to take pre/post shots to really show off the effects of ArA on pumps. The swell in size is very apparent.

    - DJ
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  2. great feedback DJ...nitrates, ArA, agmatine, gms synergy, Oh my!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    great feedback DJ...nitrates, ArA, agmatine, gms synergy, Oh my!
    Should have made a note that X-Factor can be replaced with X-Gels if the user so prefers

    The combo is absolutely amazing. The only negative I notice is that I'm more out of breath/require slightly more time between working sets. Not sure if this is attributable to Enhanced (doubtful), ArA (also doubtful but man sometimes its hard to get another set going when you are still coming down from the "pump high" of the previous set!) or that I changed my lifting routine that requires heavier weight/less reps on the working sets and I don't like moving on to the next working set until I'm completely ready (5/3/1).

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  4. Sure one could choose to use XF over XGels...I prefer to save money though and use the savings on other supps.
    I've not noticed the need to rest more between sets, mostly just my grip giving out from pumped forearms on back day..

  5. I see I was mentioned...

    Huge fan of ArA here. It excels at actual body composition change IME and the pumps are some of the best you get with any single ingredient (even better than some combos IMO). High dosage only pre-workout with Carnitine and GMS is the way to go.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post

    I did get a fairly strong case of elbow tendonitis though. If ArA soreness indicates growth my tricep tendon will be massive by now!
    I had to bail on a log bc of this ^^^^ playing baseball + ArA = biceps tendinitis X's 100!!!

    I've been interested in it since I've stopped playing. Perhaps after this cut I'll start it up
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  7. Well if it's any consolation to anyone on the fence, I started my X-Gels a week before the end of my cycle, and being about a week into pct I'm seeing no strength loss and I'm still looking full as ever 24/7. Normally I flatten right out the first week.

    The DOMS has been present most days, some days are pretty horrible, but the pain is welcome due to the results I'm seeing.
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  8. I should have plugged my log in here with my post earlier.

    For those wondering about recovery and DOMS I will say this. The DOMS can be brutal at first, but I have been squatting (in some form) and benching pretty much four days a week and my recovery is incredible right now. X-gels has not hampered it one bit.
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  9. Is LCLT the most effective form of carnitine for battling DOMS?

    Is it much better than say ALCAR?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by doggy_dog View Post
    Is LCLT the most effective form of carnitine for battling DOMS?

    Is it much better than say ALCAR?
    Most likely. ALCAR is the best for cognitive improvements. I like them all though.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I see I was mentioned...

    Huge fan of ArA here. It excels at actual body composition change IME and the pumps are some of the best you get with any single ingredient (even better than some combos IMO). High dosage only pre-workout with Carnitine and GMS is the way to go.
    Awesome feedback

  13. I will also throw my short lived feedback in here. I stopped using after 4 days due to bad headaches BUT this obviously doesn't happen to everyone. Also I'm super disappointed that I had this reaction. I experienced the best pumps ever while using X-Gels and what I'm missing this week is the all day fullness that I felt while using these. I felt pumped almost until I went to bed and I train at 4am. If you're on the fence give them a try.
    Independent

  14. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    I will also throw my short lived feedback in here. I stopped using after 4 days due to bad headaches BUT this obviously doesn't happen to everyone. Also I'm super disappointed that I had this reaction. I experienced the best pumps ever while using X-Gels and what I'm missing this week is the all day fullness that I felt while using these. I felt pumped almost until I went to bed and I train at 4am. If you're on the fence give them a try.
    Did you increase your water intake?

    I am on the fence for sure, but it's a very intriguing supplement

  15. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    Did you increase your water intake?

    I am on the fence for sure, but it's a very intriguing supplement
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    I will also throw my short lived feedback in here. I stopped using after 4 days due to bad headaches BUT this obviously doesn't happen to everyone. Also I'm super disappointed that I had this reaction. I experienced the best pumps ever while using X-Gels and what I'm missing this week is the all day fullness that I felt while using these. I felt pumped almost until I went to bed and I train at 4am. If you're on the fence give them a try.
    How did you dose / time it?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    Did you increase your water intake?

    I am on the fence for sure, but it's a very intriguing supplement
    Yes I'm always between 1.5-2gal

    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post

    How did you dose / time it?
    4 gels 45 mins b4 wo which happens to be around 345am
    Independent

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Yes I'm always between 1.5-2gal



    4 gels 45 mins b4 wo which happens to be around 345am
    I've read that taking all 4 before workout can cause headaches

  19. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post
    I've read that taking all 4 before workout can cause headaches
    I believe the headaches last all day (for those who experience headaches from ArA, at least for my brother this was the case). They did however subside as he continued his ArA use though and had great results.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Everything I've seen and heard about ArA has been very positive. I plan on running it myself here in the next few weeks.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by dsbhaver View Post

    I've read that taking all 4 before workout can cause headaches
    They did last all day and sometimes until I went to bed
    Independent

  22. Another question about stacking ArA with carnitine.
    Is it imperative that you consume the Ara literally at the same time as the carnitine? (or is that more specific to the GMS)
    Or is the general idea to simply be supplementing with carnitine at the time of your ArA Cycle?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by doggy_dog View Post
    Another question about stacking ArA with carnitine.
    Is it imperative that you consume the Ara literally at the same time as the carnitine? (or is that more specific to the GMS)
    Or is the general idea to simply be supplementing with carnitine at the time of your ArA Cycle?
    2g carn at the same time as the ArA

  24. Been using agmatine/x gels in my PCT and getting stronger/bigger/leaner. **** is insane! Feel like I am still on cycle
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  25. It is awesome to see arachidonic acid gaining more and more popularity. With this year marking the 10th anniversary of releasing X-Factor it has certainly stood the test of time and has a plethora of scientific validity and positive anecdotal feedback.
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