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    So I'm running low on Xtend and I'm looking to find something else to try for muscle recovery (not saying xtend isn't awesome, but I know there are always new "go to" products so I'm curious). Possibly something with some extra kick for working out as well. What's your number one choice with this?

    I tried looking around the forum but just found a lot that work, no clear winner though.

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    Nutra has a sale on modern BCAA's for like 15 bucks... 8:1:1 with electrolytes and sustamine bang for your buck its not going to get much better than that or if you're looking for a bcaa/eaa product purple wraath would be my next favorite with the added Beta Alanine, Citrulline, Betaine, And, L-Norvaline
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    Finaflex BCAA+SAA would be an awesome option. Not only does it have BCAA but also SAA for enhanced recovery as well as an anti-cramping matrix for hydrtion during your workout. The Apple Fusion flavor is amazing. If you look in the logs section there are a handful of logs going where guys are experiencing increased recovery time using BCAA+SAA compared to just BCAA's alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post
    So I'm running low on Xtend and I'm looking to find something else to try for muscle recovery (not saying xtend isn't awesome, but I know there are always new "go to" products so I'm curious). Possibly something with some extra kick for working out as well. What's your number one choice with this?

    I tried looking around the forum but just found a lot that work, no clear winner though.

    Hi exrugger. As money0351 mentioned, Modern BCAA™ is a great option and the current deal is hard to pass up. Fruit Punch is available at NutraPlanet for a ridiculous $15.66! I prefer BCAA products with a high leucine content and the 8:1:1 ratio has that covered. The taste is another big plus for me; it's quite refreshing and not overpowering.

    Core ABC is a solid option as well. It can be somewhat expensive compared to other products, but offers additional beta alanine and citrulline malate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Finaflex BCAA+SAA would be an awesome option. Not only does it have BCAA but also SAA for enhanced recovery as well as an anti-cramping matrix for hydrtion during your workout. The Apple Fusion flavor is amazing. If you look in the logs section there are a handful of logs going where guys are experiencing increased recovery time using BCAA+SAA compared to just BCAA's alone.
    Finaflex BCAA+SAA did sound good, especially after reading some of the logs, but the more I think about it the more I really want something that has these 3 in it:

    1. BCAA
    2. Citrulline Malate
    3. L-Arginine/Pump matrix

    Any ideas if there is something that has all of these? I've been looking to google and nutraplanet and the only thing I found is called "beast mode" but it has terrible reviews.

    Any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post

    Finaflex BCAA+SAA did sound good, especially after reading some of the logs, but the more I think about it the more I really want something that has these 3 in it:

    1. BCAA
    2. Citrulline Malate
    3. L-Arginine/Pump matrix

    Any ideas if there is something that has all of these? I've been looking to google and nutraplanet and the only thing I found is called "beast mode" but it has terrible reviews.

    Any suggestions?
    Beast Mode is a Pre Workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post

    Beast Mode is a Pre Workout.
    Well the oxyelite protein kit is in the mail, I don't want to overdo pre-workout stimulants. I guess an extra workout pump with endurance and good recovery is what I was thinking.
    What do you guys think? Would the oxyelite superthermo powder be good enough and then just add bcaa's? My thinking is its not going to help with a pump but it will w energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post
    Well the oxyelite protein kit is in the mail, I don't want to overdo pre-workout stimulants. I guess an extra workout pump with endurance and good recovery is what I was thinking. What do you guys think? Would the oxyelite superthermo powder be good enough and then just add bcaa's? My thinking is its not going to help with a pump but it will w energy.
    Get some Fruit Punch Modern BCAA which is on sale at Nutraplanet now, OxyElite Pro Powder, and for pump get some Agmatine by Biocor, its the best price 25 grams for $8.80. There's your stack right there.

    Oh, you are getting the Oep Powder in the mail, so you don't need to order that. So just get the Modern Bcaa fruit punch and agmatine. Nutraplanet is also have a sale with a coupon code, so you get 12 percent off your entire order.
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    CORE ABC
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    There's a lot of options out there. Get whatever works best for you budget, has what you need in the profile and sounds most appealing to you. I'd stick with 2:1:1 or 4:1:1 ratioed BCAA products though. Anything past 4:1:1 might as well be bulk leucine IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post

    Well the oxyelite protein kit is in the mail, I don't want to overdo pre-workout stimulants. I guess an extra workout pump with endurance and good recovery is what I was thinking.
    What do you guys think? Would the oxyelite superthermo powder be good enough and then just add bcaa's? My thinking is its not going to help with a pump but it will w energy.

    Thanks for your support man! OxyELITE ProŽ Super Thermo Powder™ with your BCAAs would be a solid pre-workout combo. I'm towards the end of an 8 week run and the energy, focus, and thermo effect are still going strong. As for pumps, I've been adding 1g of Agmatine 500 ™. T-bone's suggestion of Biocor Agmatine is another great option.
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    Modern BCAA or SNS Leucine are best bang for your buck. If money isn't an issue, I really like Cor BCAA and strive
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    All Leucine seems to be out of stock at Nutraplanet right now.
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    Do you really need to supplement with extra Leucine though?. Isn't there more than enough in food sources?. Especially if you're eating a protein rich diet?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Finaflex BCAA+SAA would be an awesome option. Not only does it have BCAA but also SAA for enhanced recovery as well as an anti-cramping matrix for hydrtion during your workout. The Apple Fusion flavor is amazing. If you look in the logs section there are a handful of logs going where guys are experiencing increased recovery time using BCAA+SAA compared to just BCAA's alone.
    I'm thinking this plus agmatine right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Do you really need to supplement with extra Leucine though?. Isn't there more than enough in food sources?. Especially if you're eating a protein rich diet?.
    If training fasted, you obviously will not have a prominent mTOR signal.

    Also, SAAs are one of the worst forms of AAs to invest in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    If training fasted, you obviously will not have a prominent mTOR signal.

    Also, SAAs are one of the worst forms of AAs to invest in.
    Agreed

    SAAs have virtually no anecdotal evidence to support a necessity for supplementing with them. They really are a pointless science and purely a marketing scheme

    Leucine is the most prominent AA that facilitates protein synthesis
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    Omega Sports Strive should be back in stock very soon.
    N'Gage also looks solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post

    Finaflex BCAA+SAA did sound good, especially after reading some of the logs, but the more I think about it the more I really want something that has these 3 in it:

    1. BCAA
    2. Citrulline Malate
    3. L-Arginine/Pump matrix

    Any ideas if there is something that has all of these? I've been looking to google and nutraplanet and the only thing I found is called "beast mode" but it has terrible reviews.

    Any suggestions?
    l-arginine does not increase NO production like you are thinking. purple wraath contains all three of those
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    If training fasted, you obviously will not have a prominent mTOR signal.

    Also, SAAs are one of the worst forms of AAs to invest in.

    I always train fasted. I'd rather not spend money I don't have to. Rarely do I purchase BCAA's, maybe when on sale though. So when I do have them, are you saying not to take them pre-workout since I train fasted?.
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    I really like Core ABC and it is nice if you want the extras in it. Otherwise I usually use Omega Sports Strive for my purposes.

    I also use bulk powders a bit (SNS Leucine) or just Genomyx Protocol to cover my pre-training Leucine (and extras) dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    I really like Core ABC and it is nice if you want the extras in it. Otherwise I usually use Omega Sports Strive for my purposes.

    I also use bulk powders a bit (SNS Leucine) or just Genomyx Protocol to cover my pre-training Leucine (and extras) dosage.
    Omega's Strive is very nice if your not scared off by the price point. I usually make my own concoction for intra if I choose to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post

    I always train fasted. I'd rather not spend money I don't have to. Rarely do I purchase BCAA's, maybe when on sale though. So when I do have them, are you saying not to take them pre-workout since I train fasted?.
    I think the point he was making is that those who do train fasted would benefit from leucine or a high-leucine BCAA mixture since leucine will open that mTOR pathway, which would otherwise be closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post
    I think the point he was making is that those who do train fasted would benefit from leucine or a high-leucine BCAA mixture since leucine will open that mTOR pathway, which would otherwise be closed.
    Yup, you got it. The overwhelming data shows that nutrient timing does not matter except for periworkout protein supplementation, which consistently shows benefits in a variety of different trials.
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    I've switched from Modern BCAA to MuscleMeds Amino Decanate 10:1:1 BCAA. Mixes/tastes great.
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    I have been using the bulk Modern BCAA 1 kilo at 29.99 - the absolute best price for BCAA's anywhere.
    Does anyone think that the quality may be lacking?
    I would be willing to use something else if it was beneficial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    I have been using the bulk Modern BCAA 1 kilo at 29.99 - the absolute best price for BCAA's anywhere.
    Does anyone think that the quality may be lacking?
    I would be willing to use something else if it was beneficial...
    Definitely not lacking in quality. High quality leucine will foam when mixed in water. Bulk MBCAA definitely foams up for a bit. Dat dere Bulk MBCAA is quality stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCedillo View Post
    Definitely not lacking in quality. High quality leucine will foam when mixed in water. Bulk MBCAA definitely foams up for a bit. Dat dere Bulk MBCAA is quality stuff!

    Love that foam....right on, thanks for the feedback.
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    Decided on Dymatize Elite Recoup ($6 at NP each, got 3 jars) and BioCor Agmatine. This plus the OxyElite thermo powder and protein and I'll be sitting pretty
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    Quote Originally Posted by exrugger View Post
    Decided on Dymatize Elite Recoup ($6 at NP each, got 3 jars) and BioCor Agmatine. This plus the OxyElite thermo powder and protein and I'll be sitting pretty
    Recoup isnt bad....i used it for years
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post

    Love that foam....right on, thanks for the feedback.
    Ummm...
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    Recoup just came in, taste is so-so but I feel noticably better after drinking it (energy, less sore) we will see how it goes.
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    Modern BCAAs. Mixes well and tastes great. Has no artificial coloring and uses a form of Glutamine that has more stability in water. Been using it since it first came out and have zero complaints
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    since AI sports is no longer a board sponsor people forget about recover pro, it used to be mention daily... :-|
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    since AI sports is no longer a board sponsor people forget about recover pro, it used to be mention daily... :-|
    I have been using and loving recover pro. Hard to beat the cost and at 4:1:1 it is perfect for me. I add my protocol to it, making the mix 7:1:1 with COP, agmatine, and LCLT.
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    Coop never speaks up without research behind him, and has recommended brands he is not a rep for many times, when it is deserved. USP deserves mention it is a great product and through personal experience I agree with the higher leucine ratio. If it was more cost effective I would be using nothing but mbcaa+ it is effective and the watermelon is damn good.

    Next up for me to try, thanks to his recommendation, is Cellucor's BCAA.
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    Again, please leave it. You can have the last word. I didn't insult you either (unless "grow up" qualifies). In fact, I deleted that post to avoid this, and the only reason it exists right now is because you have it quoted.
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    for the record:
    i'll not delve into studies, as I am not one to run around touting this & that as the latest & greatest simply because some bonehead got funding for an obscure study, skewed the parameters, and ran some random test subject or group of subjects thru some questionable hoops to show the result he wanted to end up showing.....

    while I'm not saying all studies are worthless (obviously), a great many that some scream about, are flawed from one angle or another..
    studies (and science as it pertains to bodybuilding) should be used as but another piece of information to complete the puzzle - not the ONLY basis by which someone claims something works
    the body is not a textbook

    now, as for our product BCAA+SAA specifically:
    we do not claim SAAs are superior to BCAAs - simply, we compliment the BCAAs with SAAs for superior synergy
    absolutely nothing bunk about GENUINE silk aminos, even tho most are clueless..in fact, SAAs have actually been around for a long time, used in traditional medicine in both China and Korea for centuries
    much like USPlabs has brought ayurvedic into the general awareness here in the US, thru their unique herbal formulations, so too are we attempting mainstream Western culture - not that those who are educated are clueless, because silk aminos have numerous applications in the medical, pharmaceutical and cosmetic fields

    as the name implies - we do not replace BCAAs with SAAs, we simply compliment the BCAA with SAA
    we also add taurine and some vitamins for anti-cramping and recovery purposes
    and it should be noted - we use genuine silk aminos, not synthetic - which is key

    nice product, not a lot of info out there, but the few reviews we have have been positive - expressly in the area of recovery and DOMS

    try it for yourself guys, and make your own informed decision, rather than read what xyz rep from this company says, or abc ex-rep from that company says

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