Quality Protein Powder
- 05-30-2013, 11:11 AM
- 05-30-2013, 11:25 AM
Or, a new product?
Either way, put me down for a truck load.
- 05-30-2013, 02:04 PM
05-30-2013, 02:30 PM
05-30-2013, 02:42 PM
Nutritional Creamer (Sunflower Oil, Corn Syrup Solids, Sodium Caseinate, Mono & Diglycerides, Dipotassium Phosphate, Tri-Calcium Phosphate and Tocopherols)
This is the 3rd "trick" lobbied in the first post that some sneaky/bad proteins include:
"3. Many add creamers, corn syrup, corn starch, glucose polymers etc which are generally bad for your health"
Googling Corn Syrup Solids, I read the following in a link:
Corn syrup, corn syrup solids, and high fructose corn syrup (as well as crystalline fructose) are all made from corn, and bottom line, all are sugar. So, first off, because theyíre sugar, my opinion is that they are all damaging to your health, just because sugar is so damaging.
Each of these ingredients will give you cravings for more sugar, and foods that list high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, or fructose as one of their top 4 ingredients are overeating traps. These ingredients actually interfere with a hormone that tells your brain that youíre full! Therefore, itís very common to overeat on foods that contain HFCS (or even the latter two).
Actually, in my experience, itís easy to overeat on foods that contain any kind of processed sugar, or even foods high in natural sugar. The difference with HFCS, corn syrup, and fructose is that they stop the communication between your stomach and your brain until itís too late and youíve already overeaten.
05-30-2013, 02:45 PM
You have yet to realize that the first post is marketing material by a company in this thread, not an actual scientific publication.
That scientific correlation is tenuous at best, even HFCS has been shown to be metabolized in a similar manner as regular fructose.
Last edited by Powercage; 05-30-2013 at 08:12 PM. Reason: edited for clarification
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05-30-2013, 02:52 PM
I'm sitting on 2 powders that I'm no longer going to use because of the crap I found in them once I actually knew enough to look at the "other ingredients". I only bought them because they were on sale. Now I'm more focused on finding an inexpensive, healthy protein powder.
05-30-2013, 02:53 PM
05-30-2013, 03:01 PM
In terms of Kaizen, I'll look into it. First search came back that they sell it in Canadian Costcos and I'm seeing some version being sold in *** for $80/5 lbs. Are there any other options to purchase it if you are aware?
05-30-2013, 03:03 PM
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05-30-2013, 03:44 PM
Heavily marketed products with long write ups should always get extra scrutiny from consumers. Over the years, I have found that some of the simplest and least marketed products and ingredients are usually the hidden gems that give the most bang for the buck.
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05-30-2013, 07:58 PM
Metabolic Dangers of High-Fructose Corn Syrup - Life Extension
Fructose, on the other hand, is more rapidly metabolized in the liver, flooding metabolic pathways and leading to increased triglyceride synthesis and fat storage in the liver. This can cause a rise in serum triglycerides, promoting an atherogenic lipid profile and elevating cardiovascular risk. Increased fat storage in the liver may lead to an increased incidence in non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, and this is one of several links between HFCS consumption and obesity as well as the metabolic syndrome.7
Fructose may have less impact on appetite than glucose, so processed foods rich in fructose can contribute to weight gain, obesity, and its related consequences by failing to manage appetite.20 Additionally, loading of the liver with large amounts of fructose leads to increased uric acid formation, which may contribute to gout in susceptible individuals.7
05-30-2013, 07:59 PM
Honestly, it's not really worth it to me to answer each question individually as you have a vested interest in pushing your products.
WPC is the gold standard for a reason, it cant be beat in the grand scheme for price and effectiveness. Sure WPI and MPI are nice for those that are lactose intolerant, but it wont yield any better results. Most people can handle WPC just fine, and for those that wish...they have those other options. Digestion rates are irrelevant in the grand scheme as far as body comp goes. Saying not to buy WPC or suggesting it's poor quality is laughable.
Vilifying fructose makes no sense. Within moderation its fine, it wont increase appetite...in fact, it appears to have a suppressive effect if anything. For those of you who actually would like to learn a little about fructose/hfcs and how they relate to health:
The bitter truth about fructose alarmism. | Alan Aragon's Blog
Should we limit the amount of sugars we intake? Absolutely. Should we freak out if a protein has it? Absolutely not. It can very easily be managed into a diet with no health issues.
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05-30-2013, 08:12 PM
05-30-2013, 08:13 PM
05-30-2013, 08:16 PM
I would just like to add, I support quality protein sources from companies that don't cut corners. Also, just received my USPLABS OxyElite protein, only one request. Please offer bigger tub sizes, 25 servings (not criticizing just suggesting) doesn't really last that long.
05-30-2013, 08:23 PM
05-30-2013, 08:29 PM
05-30-2013, 08:37 PM
OxyElite Protein aside, if you are drinking whey or casein, you should combine them and not drink them separately.
05-30-2013, 08:48 PM
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