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    I was wondering of there are any new promising supplement ingredients out there..E.g. nitrates

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    Tropinol XP contains a good amount of Nitrates. Will help with giving you an awesome pump and the overall formula is an awesome recomp agent.
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    Max Pump has 3g of Betaine Nitrate. Noticeable endurnace and lactic acid buffering effects as well as all day pumps when used as directed. The best supplement to hit the market in a long time.
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    I'm going to run the max pump once my lean xtreme/alphaburn is up and I start up the new oxyelite powder. Hoping for some nice vascularity with the leaning effects from oxyelite. Can't wait to see what betaine is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Max Pump has 3g of Betaine Nitrate. Noticeable endurnace and lactic acid buffering effects as well as all day pumps when used as directed. The best supplement to hit the market in a long time.
    Agreed. I've loved my runs of Max Pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    I'm going to run the max pump once my lean xtreme/alphaburn is up and I start up the new oxyelite powder. Hoping for some nice vascularity with the leaning effects from oxyelite. Can't wait to see what betaine is all about.
    Sounds like a good combo. The all day pumps and vascularity are very very nice, but the increased endurance and lactic acid buffering effects make it unbeatable. In my log I was able to up my reps and weights on almost every single lift from those two factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post

    Sounds like a good combo. The all day pumps and vascularity are very very nice, but the increased endurance and lactic acid buffering effects make it unbeatable. In my log I was able to up my reps and weights on almost every single lift from those two factors.
    Even more excited then. Can't wait. Two more weeks roughly.
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    Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
    A still ongoing contest for Finaflex products actually. The most active poster on our home forum wins $500 dollars worth of Finaflex supps. 2nd is $250. 3rd is $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    Wasn't there some contest to win a combo of products from this company? Oh well I have some creatine nitrate I need to run through first.. Any ideas about what benefits the betaine nitrate has over the CN?
    And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.
    They're not different at all. Both are nitrate salts, and both enhance performance via nitrates as the dose of creatine/betaine is too low in either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    They're not different at all. Both are nitrate salts, and both enhance performance via nitrates as the dose of creatine/betaine is too low in either.
    Beat me to the punch! lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Tropinol XP contains a good amount of Nitrates.
    and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?
    Will help with giving you an awesome pump and the overall formula is an awesome recomp agent.
    and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
    any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    They're not different at all. Both are nitrate salts, and both enhance performance via nitrates as the dose of creatine/betaine is too low in either.
    nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
    as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
    however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

    I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    I was wondering of there are any new promising supplement ingredients out there..E.g. nitrates
    it is an intering age in science, to be sure
    Finaflex has couple more new products coming out before end of year (and just may or may not have new ingredient for you, I cannot say currently)..keep your eyes peeled
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
    any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

    nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
    as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
    however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

    I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
    Exactly. This depends on the molar weight of what the nitrate is bonded to. For example: 1 Gram of Creatine Nitrate will yield ~320mg of nitrates whereas 1 Gram of Betaine Nitrate will yield ~345 mg of nitrates. You definitely want to avoid PDE5 inhibitors both pharmaceutical (Viagra, Cialis, etc.) and herbal (Horny Goat Weed, Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa, Cnidium Monnieri, rutaecarpine, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaNOmega View Post

    Exactly. This depends on the molar weight of what the nitrate is bonded to. For example: 1 Gram of Creatine Nitrate will yield ~320mg of nitrates whereas 1 Gram of Betaine Nitrate will yield ~345 mg of nitrates. You definitely want to avoid PDE5 inhibitors both pharmaceutical (Viagra, Cialis, etc.) and herbal (Horny Goat Weed, Xanthoparmelia Scabrosa, Cnidium Monnieri, rutaecarpine, etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    And from my understanding creatine nitrate is just a more soluable form. Two toatly different products.

    solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercage View Post

    solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
    Didn't say it did. Was just stating what a study showed. Sorry for the confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercage View Post
    solubility of creatine doesnt matter for performance purposes once at saturation
    So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?

    That would be the max dose. Threshold is approximately 1 gram total of Nitrates. Be careful as more is not better. Too much nitrates = too much vasodilation = too low of blood pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcc23 View Post
    So I have APS CN, 1 serving which is 3 g of CN would yield ~960 mg nitrates? Is that really that sufficient for a noticeable performance boost?
    APS does not have 3g per serving. More like 1-1.5g
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    APS does not have 3g per serving. More like 1-1.5g
    APS stated when it was first released that it was 1.5g of CN. IDK if that was the same for subsequent batches or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    APS does not have 3g per serving. More like 1-1.5g
    yea thats right.. the prop blend is vit c, cre nitrate and dimalate or something..which is the 3g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    and what exactly is "a good amount" of nitrates?and I thought you guys marketed this as a test booster, not a pump product?
    any documentation out there of potential risk in potassium nitrate combo? thought I had seen couple things..

    nitrate is nitrate, you can attach the salt to anything
    as you are so wont to run around pointing out tho coop - the issue is how much nitrate salt you are consuming..
    however, there are some worries about combining nitrate with certain things..can cause deleterious effects

    I really feel we hit the nail on the head with the betaine combo
    Betaine nitrate?! Interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Betaine nitrate?! Interesting....
    :O where you been?! Its Max Pump that has Betaine Nitrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    :O where you been?! Its Max Pump that has Betaine Nitrate
    Damn! I think they offered me a log of that lol! Shoulda, woulda, coulda

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    Any samples of this Betaine Nitrate to try? Currently I'm using CN
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Betaine nitrate?! Interesting....
    no doubt man

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    :O where you been?! Its Max Pump that has Betaine Nitrate
    you really enjoyed this stuff, as did about everyone

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    Damn! I think they offered me a log of that lol! Shoulda, woulda, coulda
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    Any samples of this Betaine Nitrate to try? Currently I'm using CN
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    no doubt man

    you really enjoyed this stuff, as did about everyone

    nope nice try tho - we offered that guy valdez a chance and he shot us down..
    I have no clue who you are, never heard of ya

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    run a log, i'll shoot you a bottle too
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post
    Do you all take Max pump solo or with other PWO supps? Just got out from under my rock, first I've heard of this.
    I've taken my Creatine Nitrate with Hemavol... no adverse affects.. A little caffeine helps any potential BP issues...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post
    Do you all take Max pump solo or with other PWO supps? Just got out from under my rock, first I've heard of this.
    could be solo if you wish, is fine as stand-alone, incredible compound..
    but - if you want to supercharge your preWO, make it a stack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    could be solo if you wish, is fine as stand-alone, incredible compound..
    but - if you want to supercharge your preWO, make it a stack!
    rave reviews on the Ignite2/MaxPump 1-2 punch, great price as well
    now get out from under that rock
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    Use nitrates properly.. More is not always better
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    Plantago is a new supplement ingredient, it's in our New and Improved version of Titanium. Here is an interesting study to check out, it was added to increase endurance/performance in the gym, we should have some logs starting up soon on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DWeaver View Post
    LMAO, thanks bud.
    Can vouch for this stack. Ran a log not too long ago and has awesome results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post

    Can vouch for this stack. Ran a log not too long ago and has awesome results.

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