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    Best Noot for Contact Sports?


    Here at AM we are very big on sports performance and lately Nootropics have become very popular. I have seen little discussion regarding Noots outside of studying purposes. What would be good Nootropics to use to gain a "mental performance edge" in sports, specifically contact sports?

    ALCAR - in my experience great for memory and helped for work, did not do much for sports.
    Sulbutiamine - This was much more helpful for sports and so far my favorite one. Increased reaction time and clear headed.
    Focus Dirt - This made me more sensitive to stimulants, I try to keep any stimulants to a minimum (increased heart rate can hurt performance/endurance). Better for work/studying in my opinion.

    This is the extent of my experience, I am hoping other will contribute.

    Effects to look for (add to this list)
    Reduced hesitation
    clear minded
    Improved reaction time
    better/faster judgement
    confidence boost could be one?
    fast "analytical skills"


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    ALCAR should have helped achieve the objectives you stated. How much did you take?

    Look into:
    Choline
    Glucuronolactone
    DAA

    Not sure what level you compete at so my suggestions may not be compliant with some governing bodies.

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    DAA is included but its not so much a nootropic.

    Glucuronolactone is a good suggestion too.

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    DAA is a nootropic. And some get confidence boosts from it too.

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    Noopept.
    Any racetam will help really
    Alpha GPC at min 600mg
    Citicholine
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    If these are your ingredient recommendations I suggest looking into Focus XT™ as it contains a few of the ingredients discussed here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    Here at AM we are very big on sports performance and lately Nootropics have become very popular. I have seen little discussion regarding Noots outside of studying purposes. What would be good Nootropics to use to gain a "mental performance edge" in sports, specifically contact sports? ALCAR - in my experience great for memory and helped for work, did not do much for sports.Sulbutiamine - This was much more helpful for sports and so far my favorite one. Increased reaction time and clear headed.Focus Dirt - This made me more sensitive to stimulants, I try to keep any stimulants to a minimum (increased heart rate can hurt performance/endurance). Better for work/studying in my opinion.This is the extent of my experience, I am hoping other will contribute.Effects to look for (add to this list)Reduced hesitationclear mindedImproved reaction timebetter/faster judgementconfidence boost could be one?fast "analytical skills"
    I know your looking for a Nootropic, but all the Effects you are looking for, I experience when I take AndroDrive by Primordial Performance. Most people run a cycle, but I felt the most effects when I took it an hour before exercise, any day I needed it. They no longer make it anymore, but there is a very similar product on the market called Focus by AndroFactory. I would at least give it a look. Cheers, Luke

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    Focus XT is awesome in its own right.
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    Interesting, keep em coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpfleiderer View Post
    I know your looking for a Nootropic, but all the Effects you are looking for, I experience when I take AndroDrive by Primordial Performance. Most people run a cycle, but I felt the most effects when I took it an hour before exercise, any day I needed it. They no longer make it anymore, but there is a very similar product on the market called Focus by AndroFactory. I would at least give it a look. Cheers, Luke
    I think it might be safe to assume that since he is looking for noots for sports that he is apart of NCAA or another governing body in which most prohormones are illegal.

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    I'm not personally interested in PHs but also do not have to worry about any governing bodies.

    Others reading the thread may be interested in PHs or have to report to a governing body so as long as posts remain clear regarding things of that
    nature I think they are relevant for discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Noopept.
    Any racetam will help really
    Alpha GPC at min 600mg
    Citicholine
    Alcar
    Dmae

    List goes on
    Is that dose of A-GPC split daily (~300mg twice daily)? Citicoline is about the same dose, correct?

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    add Huperzine A to things to try.
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    Personally I like Focus XT+Fish Oil+Aniracetam+choline for pickup basketball and touch football games it makes me analytical and helps me get in the game

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    I know very little and have no experience with ractams

    What where your experiences with huperazine a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    I know very little and have no experience with ractams

    What where your experiences with huperazine a?
    Huperzine A is more for memory support. 100-200mcg is a typical dose.

    ALCAR
    CDP Choline
    Glucuronolactone
    Alpha GPC
    Racetam(s)
    Ephedrine
    Caffeine

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Huperzine A is more for memory support. 100-200mcg is a typical dose.

    ALCAR
    CDP Choline
    Glucuronolactone
    Alpha GPC
    Racetam(s)
    Ephedrine
    Caffeine
    I agree with a low dose of E/C to help endurance. Glucuronolactone + 1-Carboxy has always worked very well for me. I am going to look into alpha GPC a little bit now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Huperzine A is more for memory support. 100-200mcg is a typical dose.

    ALCAR
    CDP Choline
    Glucuronolactone
    Alpha GPC
    Racetam(s)
    Ephedrine
    Caffeine
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post
    Huperzine A is more for memory support. 100-200mcg is a typical dose.

    ALCAR
    CDP Choline
    Glucuronolactone
    Alpha GPC
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    You reproduced my list lol
    lol it was a solid list, I did add a couple though

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post

    lol it was a solid list, I did add a couple though

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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    I'm not personally interested in PHs but also do not have to worry about any governing bodies.

    Others reading the thread may be interested in PHs or have to report to a governing body so as long as posts remain clear regarding things of that
    nature I think they are relevant for discussion.
    Ok, so thats a no for AndroDrive. One product that gives me an edge when Cycling or at MMA practice is called Drive by AppNut. Funny coincidence they both have drive in the name lol. Gives me a definite edge you were speaking of, lots of endurance, confidence, reduced hesitation. It doesn't give any mental focus, but the performance edge is there. Stacking Drive with Focus XT would probably give you effects close to what you are looking for. (there is a caffeine free Focus-XT if you dont want stims.) Just my 2 cents.

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    I have used drive a while ago. Rpm is still my favorite pre work out ever. But that's more stim/test booster than nootropic.

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    Focus xt is good I have used that before. If it was on sale I would pick more up for work. It didnt do well for me pre work out or any thing active personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MM11 View Post
    I have used drive a while ago. Rpm is still my favorite pre work out ever. But that's more stim/test booster than nootropic.
    RPM is great for a night out also.

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    For your goals:

    -ALCAR (reaction time) or CDP-Choline
    -Tyrosine (less hesitation) or L-Dopa
    -DAA (performance under pressure, confidence boost)
    -Caffeine of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For your goals:

    -ALCAR (reaction time) or CDP-Choline
    -Tyrosine (less hesitation) or L-Dopa
    -DAA (performance under pressure, confidence boost)
    -Caffeine of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    -DAA (performance under pressure, confidence boost)
    Funny, I never felt anything with DAA..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    Funny, I never felt anything with DAA..?
    Coop is a big advocate on DAA for that. I think @Patrickarnold had a rebuttal to why coop mentioned DAA as a noot type supp but the convo never continued.

    I like you, have never noticed any sort of cognitive effects when using DAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Coop is a big advocate on DAA for that. I think @Patrickarnold had a rebuttal to why coop mentioned DAA as a noot type supp but the convo never continued.

    I like you, have never noticed any sort of cognitive effects when using DAA.
    I can't multi-quote, but nootropics aren't all about feel. Activation of the NMDA receptor promotes a variety of integral brain functions.

    I have a lot of respect for PA but I'd love to hear his rebuttal about why DAA can't act as a nootropic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    I can't multi-quote, but nootropics aren't all about feel. Activation of the NMDA receptor promotes a variety of integral brain functions.

    I have a lot of respect for PA but I'd love to hear his rebuttal about why DAA can't act as a nootropic.
    Why does it act as a noot? Daa that is. I load before exams, just curious as to how it works as a noot and not just a test. booster

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Why does it act as a noot? Daa that is. I load before exams, just curious as to how it works as a noot and not just a test. booster
    It is an NMDA receptor agonist. The NMDA receptor is arguably the king of all nootropic targets: it promotes Hebbian learning, LTP, performance under stress, and more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    It is an NMDA receptor agonist. The NMDA receptor is arguably the king of all nootropic targets: it promotes Hebbian learning, LTP, performance under stress, and more.
    Thanks for the crash course coop. Much appreciated.

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    Alpha GPC + Cholin citrate + Ephedrine GREATLY improved my reaction time coming out of the blocks.

    If you're looking for explosiveness, stick with those.

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    I took ephedrine with focus-xt last week before a game of football and pulled off some pretty crazy catches that I would normally have never made. I didn't "feel" the Focus-Xt but have no doubt that my coordination was improved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Coop is a big advocate on DAA for that. I think @Patrickarnold had a rebuttal to why coop mentioned DAA as a noot type supp but the convo never continued.

    I like you, have never noticed any sort of cognitive effects when using DAA.
    Patrick talked about this in his blog a while back:

    patrick arnold blog d-aspartic-acid-can-it-make-you-smarter

    "All this data represents intriguing evidence that d-aspartic acid might serve an integral role in learning and memory formation, and hints at the possibility of d-aspartic acid being exploited as a natural cognitive enhancing supplement. Based on the information provided in the study, a human equivalency dose is calculated to come out to be around 2-2.5 grams a day (most d-aspartic supplements provide around 3 grams a day.)
    So does d-aspartic acid have a cognitive enhancement effect on humans? A carefully controlled study would be needed to answer that question for sure, but right now feedback from users of my d-aspartic acid product (E-Pharm Testforce2) seems to indicate a subjective “brain boosting” effect. Hopefully some more research into this intriguing aspect of d-aspartic acid will be undertaken and more papers will be published in the future"

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    daa significantly increased my anxiety making me seem dumber in social situations

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    Quote Originally Posted by icecold9487 View Post
    daa significantly increased my anxiety making me seem dumber in social situations
    Were you stacking DAA with anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I can't multi-quote, but nootropics aren't all about feel. Activation of the NMDA receptor promotes a variety of integral brain functions.

    I have a lot of respect for PA but I'd love to hear his rebuttal about why DAA can't act as a nootropic.
    I'll be back I may have misread in that focus thread...

    I wasn't being argumentative... and by haven't noticed anything I meant increases in any sort of mental aspect - studying, memory, ease of speech etc... not in an acute "feeling" setting.
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