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  1. Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    If we are aiming for 0.045-0.065g/kg BW, what the preferred breakdown between pre-, intra-, and post-workout? Extra leucine added during each?
    This is all assuming Layne's research carries over to humans:

    Dose leucine preworkout as you recommended, in that dose range.

    Then mix up maybe 10g total and consume it over the course of the workout (and finish it postworkout) in order to maintain the plasma levels. Now, in this instance of using such high doses of leucine, it probably is wise to co-supplement the other BCAAs.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is all assuming Layne's research carries over to humans:

    Dose leucine preworkout as you recommended, in that dose range.

    Then mix up maybe 10g total and consume it over the course of the workout (and finish it postworkout) in order to maintain the plasma levels. Now, in this instance of using such high doses of leucine, it probably is wise to co-supplement the other BCAAs.
    Does timing matter in regards to the other BCAAs? Or, can the BCAAs be supplanted with real food during the rest of the day (i.e., something along the lines of Dr. Houser's 25% of amino acid pool)?
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  3. ok guys I got Peak beta,RPM. for pre.Caffeine pills if needed. Compete for during.also Man Sports Nolvadren xt.And Professional supplements Aminolinx for post..Sound good?

  4. Should have gone enhanced, peak beta and erase.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Take note that PES Enhanced has probably the best endurance ingredient on the market (nitrates) at full dose per scoop.
    Enhanced have been really horrible for me for endurance, I like the way it gets me focused but I'm cramping bad and get chin splints?! I never had chin splint or calves cramps before, I have also hard time to catch my breath?
    I hear a lot of people talk good about it so it might just be me but my experience with Enhanced have been very bad...

  6. You may need some taurine or Krebs cycle minerals in general. How is your veggie and micronutrient take in? Your lacking essential nutrients bud, sorry to say.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    You may need some taurine or Krebs cycle minerals in general. How is your veggie and micronutrient take in? Your lacking essential nutrients bud, sorry to say.
    Lol, I don't think so bud, I run 3-4x a week year around and this only happened the times I used Enhanced?! I'm not saying its bad product, I like PES, it's just not working for me, sorry to say...

  8. What are "chin splints"?.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What are "chin splints"?.
    Sorry, shin splints, English is not my first language...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What are "chin splints"?.
    Im assuming he's referring to "shin splits" like you get from running~ not sure how Enhanced would bring them on

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    Sorry, shin splints, English is not my first language...

    Oh, oh, sorry!. I'm just not thinking straight today.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    Enhanced have been really horrible for me for endurance, I like the way it gets me focused but I'm cramping bad and get chin splints?! I never had chin splint or calves cramps before, I have also hard time to catch my breath?
    I hear a lot of people talk good about it so it might just be me but my experience with Enhanced have been very bad...
    Shin splits are an overuse injury from repeated impacts and would have nothing to do with any product you're using. As for calf cramps, that would be due to improper hydration and electrolyte balance. Not trying to make excuses but I think those 2 symptoms are merely coincidental

  13. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    Enhanced have been really horrible for me for endurance, I like the way it gets me focused but I'm cramping bad and get chin splints?! I never had chin splint or calves cramps before, I have also hard time to catch my breath?
    I hear a lot of people talk good about it so it might just be me but my experience with Enhanced have been very bad...
    Shin splints are a result from overtraining. You're either running too far too soon, or running too often too soon.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Shin splits are an overuse injury from repeated impacts and would have nothing to do with any product you're using. As for calf cramps, that would be due to improper hydration and electrolyte balance. Not trying to make excuses but I think those 2 symptoms are merely coincidental
    Smashed the nail on the head.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post

    Shin splints are a result from overtraining. You're either running too far too soon, or running too often too soon.
    Or with improper form, I.E. heel landing

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Shin splits are an overuse injury from repeated impacts and would have nothing to do with any product you're using. As for calf cramps, that would be due to improper hydration and electrolyte balance. Not trying to make excuses but I think those 2 symptoms are merely coincidental
    Yeah I don't know, like I said, I'm not baching PES or Enhanced, just saying I had bad experience with Enhanced and cardio. I love Erase, Alpha-T2 and just ordered Alphamine so I'm fan of PES products, just not Enhanced... I'm not trying to offend anybody, I'm just giving my honest opinion.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by alwaysfirst View Post
    Yeah I don't know, like I said, I'm not baching PES or Enhanced, just saying I had bad experience with Enhanced and cardio. I love Erase, Alpha-T2 and just ordered Alphamine so I'm fan of PES products, just not Enhanced... I'm not trying to offend anybody, I'm just giving my honest opinion.
    I understand, and no offense taken at all my friend. I'm just trying to isolate the cause because I truthfully don't believe it is Enhanced in this case, at least for the shin splints and cramps

  18. Quote Originally Posted by cjwav34 View Post

    Shin splints are a result from overtraining. You're either running too far too soon, or running too often too soon.
    Not stretching properly is usually the case.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    Agree with CB on the iForce Compete. Tangerine flavor tastes like Tang. I've been logging it for almost 4 weeks. Endurance and recovery is really noticeable. It's an intra that you sip as you work out. I practice Karate and know what your workout is like. Go with Compete 1 scoop in 32 oz water. Have fun.
    Thanks for the support!

    A lot of people find it even better to take 1 scoop pre, and 1 scoop intra

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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Swanson52 View Post
    'Tis true. I'm logging Peak Beta+, and it has become a "must have", ESPECIALLY for heavy conditioning.

    The difference in LA buildup is honestly startling.
    I thought the same thing the first time we began beta testing it in house before putting it to market... it exceeded even our own expectations in that regard.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by ITW View Post
    Or with improper form, I.E. heel landing
    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Not stretching properly is usually the case.
    Both of these are also true. Basically if you're getting shin splints, you're doing something wrong.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by ALBIE ONE View Post
    Hi guys im new to the forum .Just would like to ask if there are certain supplements,or specific products you guys would recommend for kickboxing.i don't really want any pump products.I appreciate any answers or info! Thanks!
    iForce Compete should definitely be considered - it's a great, stimulant free sports drink that's (IMHO) basically an improved version of Gatorade. Ingredients for hydration, focus, recovery, and endurance. Compete is specifically designed to enhance your athletic performance whether you kickbox, run, swim, bike, or lift (which is the context I use it in) and it tastes ****ing awesome.

    It should be a go-to for every athlete and active person out there, and I'd love to see it get in the hands of more athletes on every level, in every arena.

  23. Hey I bought Compete TanGy orange,Peak beta And RPM.Good for a stack?
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleWade View Post
    iForce Compete should definitely be considered - it's a great, stimulant free sports drink that's (IMHO) basically an improved version of Gatorade. Ingredients for hydration, focus, recovery, and endurance. Compete is specifically designed to enhance your athletic performance whether you kickbox, run, swim, bike, or lift (which is the context I use it in) and it tastes ****ing awesome.

    It should be a go-to for every athlete and active person out there, and I'd love to see it get in the hands of more athletes on every level, in every arena.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ALBIE ONE View Post
    Hey I bought Compete TanGy orange,Peak beta And RPM.Good for a stack?
    That would be a killer stack, Ive used all three separately and really enjoyed them all.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    That would be a killer stack, Ive used all three separately and really enjoyed them all.
    Sounds good.Cant wait to start!I may even pick up Mhp dark matter if I got the extra cash.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ALBIE ONE View Post
    Hey I bought Compete TanGy orange,Peak beta And RPM.Good for a stack?
    Like mentioned, that sounds like a killer combo!

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  27. Quote Originally Posted by ALBIE ONE View Post
    Sounds good.Cant wait to start!I may even pick up Mhp dark matter if I got the extra cash.
    That is good stuff, another favorite of mine for postWO is Universal Torrent in the cherry flavor.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post

    That is good stuff, another favorite of mine for postWO is Universal Torrent in the cherry flavor.
    Anything cherry is a win!
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  29. Yes I like that too,was thinking of trying the sour citrus?
    Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    That is good stuff, another favorite of mine for postWO is Universal Torrent in the cherry flavor.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by ALBIE ONE View Post
    Yes I like that too,was thinking of trying the sour citrus?
    Never had it, cherry ftw!
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