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    Beet Root Pre-workout


    I have been reading alot about beetroot's benefits pre-workout. Just wondering if anyone has found any studies or data to show anything on increase in production of NO or effects on endurance?

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    Ive been a lil curious about beet juice pre workout as well. I read a article a little while bac about how it improves endurance and bloodflood. Cyclist and Olympic athletes taking it for improved performance. Was pretty much the gist of the article.
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    Beetroot juice will also contain betaine (TMG) and nitrates so both of those ergogenic benefits should apply. Problem you will run into is how much beetroot juice will you need to reap those benefits
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    Along time ago I read its good for vascularity.
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    Beetroot contains nitrates which is why it is good pre workout. But I'd rather just take a pre workout with nitrates.
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    Ya I am not sure how much you'd have to consume for actual benefits. I do regularly use TMG and nitrates though so guess I am a fan.
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    I just take potassium nitrate. Works great and is 12 dollars for 60 days worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Ya I am not sure how much you'd have to consume for actual benefits. I do regularly use TMG and nitrates though so guess I am a fan.
    I dont think anyone has nailed the amount yet .
    X2 ~ Im quite a fan of Nitrates myself

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    I know a lot of AAS users love this pre-workout.

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    I love beet root for Pre workout. I use to juice 2 beets 1 hour before my workout. Great for pump and overall Heath. Great liver cleanse
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    A completely different question but similar topic.. What are your guy's favorite Competition Nitrates? To use right before going on stage for vascularity, pump, fullness...etc
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    It's really impossible to achieve an efficacious dose of beet root in a preworkout product. If you want the natural route, pomegranate may be a better option, hence its inclusion in Enhanced
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    Quote Originally Posted by OHlympia View Post
    A completely different question but similar topic.. What are your guy's favorite Competition Nitrates? To use right before going on stage for vascularity, pump, fullness...etc
    All nitrates should create an equal effect. If you want more vascularity, you should use sodium nitrate instead of potassium nitrate since sodium is the principle osmolyte in the plasma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    All nitrates should create an equal effect. If you want more vascularity, you should use sodium nitrate instead of potassium nitrate since sodium is the principle osmolyte in the plasma.
    Sodium nitrate healthy though? Don't want to increase my risk of colon cancer any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Sodium nitrate healthy though? Don't want to increase my risk of colon cancer any more.
    The sodium has nothing to do with that really. If you're worried about nitrate carcinogenesis, ingest it with Vitamin C
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    It's really impossible to achieve an efficacious dose of beet root in a preworkout product. If you want the natural route, pomegranate may be a better option, hence its inclusion in Enhanced
    Can't post links but If you google "nature's way garden veggies nitrates" you'll see the stuff has 500 mg nitrates in 2 caps and if like to subscribe and save its 6.99 for 60 caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    All nitrates should create an equal effect. If you want more vascularity, you should use sodium nitrate instead of potassium nitrate since sodium is the principle osmolyte in the plasma.
    Instructions on how to take this? Like I'm assuming 1gr is a good dose? Also, I see "lab grade sodium nitrate" would this be fine? Is there like a brand you recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Can't post links but If you google "nature's way garden veggies nitrates" you'll see the stuff has 500 mg nitrates in 2 caps and if like to subscribe and save its 6.99 for 60 caps
    Dude, seriously awesome find right here. My mind is slightly blown based on the profile (even with dessication), but I'll take the study's word for it.

    I don't have any recommendations for sodium nitrate but just make sure you get near 100% purity (food grade). Also, shoot for 300-600mg of actual nitrate content
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    That does sound like a win-win type of supp. Good for you and an ergogenic. I agree on the pomegranate. A mixture of the pom extract from BAC and coleus has been a nice combo for me in the past.
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    hmmmm

    Beetroot juice and exercise: pharmacodynamic and dose-response relationships.



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    Dietary supplementation with beetroot juice (BR) containing ~5-8 mmol of inorganic nitrate (NO3-) increases plasma nitrite concentration ([NO2-]), reduces blood pressure, and may positively influence the physiological responses to exercise. However, the dose-response relationship between the volume of BR ingested and the physiological effects invoked has not been investigated. In a balanced crossover design, 10 healthy males ingested 70, 140 or 280 ml of concentrated BR (containing 4.2, 8.4 and 16.8 mmol NO3-, respectively) or no supplement to establish the effects of BR on resting plasma [NO3-] and [NO2-] over 24 h. Subsequently, on six separate occasions, 10 subjects completed moderate-intensity and severe-intensity cycle exercise tests 2.5 h post-ingestion of 70, 140 and 280 ml BR, or NO3--depleted BR as placebo (PL). Following acute BR ingestion, plasma [NO2-] increased in a dose-dependent manner, with the peak changes occurring at ~2-3 h. Compared to PL, 70 ml BR did not alter the physiological responses to exercise. However, 140 and 280 ml BR reduced the steady-state VO2 during moderate-intensity exercise by 1.7% (P=0.06) and 3.0% (P<0.05), whilst time to task failure was extended by 14% and 12% (both P<0.05), respectively, compared to PL. The results indicate that, while plasma [NO2-] and the O2 cost of moderate-intensity exercise are improved dose-dependently with NO3--rich BR, there is no additional improvement in exercise tolerance after ingesting BR containing 16.8 compared to 8.4 mmol NO3-. These findings have important implications for the use of BR to enhance cardiovascular health and exercise performance in young adults.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh
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    pills will still be more cost effective and easier to obtain but 140ml is feasible if one insist on the juice
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    Quote Originally Posted by OHlympia View Post
    A completely different question but similar topic.. What are your guy's favorite Competition Nitrates? To use right before going on stage for vascularity, pump, fullness...etc

    In the competition world, most use viagra. Has a greatly effect on peripheral vascularity than cialis, at least that is what everyone who uses both says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh
    pills will still be more cost effective and easier to obtain but 140ml is feasible if one insist on the juice
    I insist on da juice
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    Most preworkouts that use beet root powder only use around 1 gram, which at most yields approximately less than 2 mg of nitrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msloan View Post
    Most preworkouts that use beet root powder only use around 1 gram, which at most yields approximately less than 2 mg of nitrates.
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    I found garden vegges by natures way, but it doesn't say anything about nitrates on the label. did they change anything since your post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    I found garden vegges by natures way, but it doesn't say anything about nitrates on the label. did they change anything since your post?
    You have to read the study On it. You see it in the search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    You have to read the study On it. You see it in the search.
    I see. if you have tried it and it rocked your world, I will order some right now. otherwise, I wonder if that comma is supposed to be a decibel, as decibles were used some of the others in the list. I remember reading tons of articles on royal jelly claiming 1 gram had 400mg of pantothenic acid. I had seen government analysis and the b5 was measured in mcg and was far from even one milligram. I figure one day someone online made a typo from mcg to mg and it spread. I have to laugh when people tell me royal jelly consists of 40% one single b vitamin
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    I haven't used it. Might though d/t how cheap a bottle is.
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    Ive heard a lot about this product and I think that its really a good one. I would say that it will be good for you to stack with something anabolic too. That would be the best thing for you to do. These two products together(something anabolic plus this) would really give you a boost in the gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I haven't used it. Might though d/t how cheap a bottle is.
    well, its 7 bucks a bottle. ive heard good things when you extract the juice from the plant, but that is pretty outstanding, considering I see oompanies bragging about how they standardized beet root to 1.5 percent. I wrote the company. ive never tried sodium nitrate, but I got this spinach powder from a bodybuilding company and I am very impressed. I had to cut the dose in half though due to it high chlorophyll (laxative) content. so im eating the equivalent of 90 grams (3 cups) of fresh spinach and I definitely have ALOT of muscle hardness. when I was taking the full amount, the muscle hardness was better than no2 at 8 grams so I was pretty impressed. anyway, im excited about this, but I want to find a better way. the guy who sells the spinach says two proteins are released that change calcium regulation and puts it into the tissues. I figure that makes more sense than ed byrds explaination, since no2 is gone in an instant, but calcium remains in the muscles once its put there, anyway, I ordered sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate, but im not sure how effectively these get calcium into the muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    Ive heard a lot about this product and I think that its really a good one. I would say that it will be good for you to stack with something anabolic too. That would be the best thing for you to do. These two products together(something anabolic plus this) would really give you a boost in the gym.
    what did you hear about it? are people raving about its effects of muscle hardness or endurance?
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    Beet root is actually very good taken pre workout. This is why we use Betaine in our Max Pump to bind to the nitrates.
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    The study on Garden Veggies is absolutely incorrect. Not only are their calculations wrong, but I tried the product and it yielded no results. A very, very poorly written segment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montego1 View Post
    Beet root is actually very good taken pre workout. This is why we use Betaine in our Max Pump to bind to the nitrates.
    Beet root preworkout will be of negligible benefit in supplemental form. Using a salt form as in Betaine Nitrate is a different story, though I'd personally stick with 1/2 a serving of max pump for safety reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The study on Garden Veggies is absolutely incorrect. Not only are their calculations wrong, but I tried the product and it yielded no results. A very, very poorly written segment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Beet root preworkout will be of negligible benefit in supplemental form. Using a salt form as in Betaine Nitrate is a different story, though I'd personally stick with 1/2 a serving of max pump for safety reasons
    Of what safety reasons do you speak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Of what safety reasons do you speak?
    Overdoing it on nitrates can cause a hypotensive crisis, and over 1 gram of pure nitrate (as derived from 3g of Betaine Nitrate) is well out of the safety threshold and potentially toxic. Conversely, 1.5g of Betaine Nitrate yields 500mg nitrates, which is within the ergogenic range. Plus it doubles the lifetime of the bottle
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The study on Garden Veggies is absolutely incorrect. Not only are their calculations wrong, but I tried the product and it yielded no results. A very, very poorly written segment.
    bwa haha. yeah. those numbers were crazy
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