Beet Root Pre-workout
- 06-22-2013, 02:53 PM
- 06-22-2013, 03:05 PM
- 06-22-2013, 03:34 PM
Sooooo basically Popeye wasn't full of sh.t that while timeControlled Labs Board Rep
CONTROLLED LABS products are produced in a GMP for Sport certified facility.
06-22-2013, 03:35 PM
06-22-2013, 03:59 PM
has anyone heard of that kind of improved repition for nitrates alone?
06-22-2013, 06:14 PM
06-22-2013, 06:41 PM
06-22-2013, 07:01 PM
all that matters to me is companies getting supps to the public. im sure any patents would have to do with the method of extraction, as beets belong to all of us. the slightest variences make for a totally different method; mr coffee had 20 patents, and obviously theres a million ways around that since hes not the only game in town. thank god for that. anyway, who is RK? do they make any nitrate products?
06-22-2013, 07:24 PM
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
06-22-2013, 08:11 PM
06-22-2013, 08:41 PM
does anyone make a product that has standardized nitrates not bound to a single amino? just keep finding this stuff called rednite, and nobody sells it.
06-22-2013, 08:48 PM
06-22-2013, 09:03 PM
yeah, I saw the ad but its like only available through a contest or something right now. I actually would've bought it, but I placed an order from this sketchy company online that sells a generous 360 caps just to get some asap. im kindof thinking something like a food concentrate because im theorizing the other components enhance the effect. i guess i should try the saltnitrates first to prove or disprove that though
06-22-2013, 09:55 PM
06-23-2013, 06:18 AM
06-23-2013, 10:16 AM
but you give good example of how some reps conduct themselves on this forum, showing your own unprovoked personal attack upon someone else, out of the blue..such behavior never ceases to amaze me
but I suppose you wanted me to see this? yawn..tiresome
I do not even know who you are
truly sad, how some feel the need to spend their time, when representing a company to the public
good luck to you going forward, best to the guys you rep for, and have a great day
06-23-2013, 10:38 AM
06-23-2013, 10:39 AM
06-23-2013, 12:08 PM
06-23-2013, 12:17 PM
still have no clue who he is, but appreciate the enlightenment and correction?
simply going by his sig, looks to be representative of Omega, no?
fairly deceptive, and i'm not sure the company would be excited about any controversy he would bring about as a result of the signature
and reputations tend to build off other ppl's own "ideas" and perceptions - those who form opinions and judgements about others, whether qualified to do so, or not
thank you for taking your time here to share this morning
06-23-2013, 02:49 PM
i dont think p5sky was referencing finaflex with that, given the fact that im atleast getting good info from him that is consistant with the topic; we all know finaflex cant provide info on an ongoing court issue in a forum, so it's hardly a fair subject. anyway, some dude tried patenting human genes, and even though the patent was granted, in the end it was ruled an unfair patent. i admire any company that gets a new alternative out there, instead of sitting on patents. i imagine nitrates have been around, but they arent going to be in anyones awareness until these companies get stuff out there.
okay. so getting to the topic, i dropped 3 finaflex max pumps last night; the spinach at half a scoop (equal to 90 grams of fresh spinach) wasnt giving me anywhere near the pumps i had at the full dose of spinach, and i couldnt wait for the potass and sodium nitrates to arrive tues. im glad i didnt wait; after digging through a mountain a used and unopened supplements, i found my bottle of max pump. im reminded of all the reasons i bought it: it was inexpensive, it had one ingredient in a large amount (not a big blend of schwagg to raise the cost and get away with giving the consumer less of the active ingredient), it didnt add any crap that i dont want or have sufficient levels of, and it had ALOT of pills in it for the money. it also had tmg in it, which is know to increase oxygen levels in the body. what i didnt know is that it had the whoppingly high dose of nitrates in it that i learned about here. i took 3 pills last night (bearing in mind that ive been on approximately 700mg nitrates from the amount of spinach powder ive been eating) and sure enough i woke up the next morning with the awesome pumps i had at double to dose of spinach powder (an amount of spinach which might be intolerable for anyone.) needless to say, im impressed. it will be interesting to see if these results continue. i love pump products, but after taking 8 g of no2 for a long, long time i knew the amount of arginine was unbalencing (i had this weary/slightly shakey feeling in my muscles from it). again im excited to have found a way around it.
06-23-2013, 03:07 PM
TMG is more than just a simple "pump" product that enhances cosmetic changes
the many factors at play with this form of betaine include increased endurance levels/stamina/strength output as well as increased recovery and heightened protein synthesis..
all of which, will certainly play into cosmetic appearance changes..but, so much more in the aspect of performance increases as well
and then, there's the synergistic response to other compounds in play, if you are so inclined to stack your products
it just makes other things you take - work better!
quite versatile, functional and obviously useful in a host of parameters
06-23-2013, 03:40 PM
It is sad that I have talked to several people who will not frequent AM because of you, so it appears that I am not the problem, you sir must need a mirror.
When an omega male is born it's game over
06-23-2013, 03:50 PM
06-23-2013, 03:55 PM
He's a recoverbro and considers himself the omega. Omega is also a word and he can use it in whatever context he pleases, no matter what snags has to say about it.
So much unfounded confrontation ITT. People being run off of the forums for spreading information, and even giving recommendations on how to make other companies products last longer and still work well (which makes the consumer more likely to buy because of a better bang for your buck), personal attacks, and defaming of opposing companies. Ridiculous.
06-23-2013, 04:23 PM
06-23-2013, 04:24 PM
Oh, ok. Just a misunderstanding. I'm on mobile with poor connection, so I guess the signatures just didn't load. I'm definitely not trying to attack the guy lol. I don't even know him. Nor am I affiliated with any company. I just mistook his signature (or what my mobile app showed as his signature) as saying he was a rep somewhere. No idea what a recoverbro is.
06-23-2013, 04:27 PM
06-23-2013, 04:30 PM
06-23-2013, 04:30 PM
forgive me for wasting time, acknowledging your post
there is no win here, with a mentality such as you show..
i will no longer attempt to acknowledge you, and perhaps you could just the same with me?
novel concept, I know, but perhaps it will grow on you
if you are referring to cooper, the company he represents chose to remove his presence from this fine forum, based on his own personal conduct and postings on this forum -- nothing else
mind-boggling, that you think i have the power to control what another company does, or wield the influence to be able to run ppl off forums.....
i will speak no further on that, as it does not concern me, i have no affiliation to the company
if you wish to have further clarification on that, perhaps contact that company directly and query
but - insofar as that goes, understand this: not only me personally, but FINAFLEX as a company, embrace the small business owner and other companies in the industry..we wish everyone the best, nothing but success, and do not wish to see anyone fail
this starts at the very top with ownership - in fact, we provide many raw materials to a few different companies that do business on this forum!
we are all brothers in this industry, and we try to belittle or denigrate no one
our reps will not be seen in other company threads, criticizing or critiquing or otherwise defaming anyone else or any product for that matter
that is simply contrary to what we believe, and the way we operate
i will spend no further time attempting to clarify anything else, and decline to respond to any other accusations/insults/or anything else that resembles vendetta or character assisination
best to you
06-23-2013, 04:35 PM
06-23-2013, 04:40 PM
06-23-2013, 04:43 PM
06-23-2013, 04:53 PM
I can say, as a consumer, a good number of your posts (and others in this thread) came off as unprofessional/abrasive. I know (based on my experiences with you) that you are very passionate about the products you represent and will defend them when you feel they are being spoken about poorly (even if they aren't necessarily). And this generally seems to be a phenomenon that occurs around Mr.Cooper very frequently, when all I have ever seen him do is add to discussion with his knowledge of the science, even if it isn't always favorable for specific companies. (When he repped SNS he still posted info that was not always favorable for the sales of certain products SNS sold) so implying that he is out to ruin the reputation of any particular company is a ridiculous accusation.
06-23-2013, 04:59 PM
06-23-2013, 05:37 PM
you are all missing the point here..
i admire cy tremendously, and have long been wowed at the guy's intellect and ability to learn rapidly - let alone decipher some studies that are out there lol..he's a tremendously talented guy, and I've said (more than once) in other threads..from what i understand, he is highly regarded for his medical knowledge - there is nothing personal here
that said - his rep job here, on this forum, is not to concern himself with playing doctor or advising ppl on use of items outside of his company line..
i can appreciate the fact a lot of ppl embraced this direction; however this is the not the activity the company he represents would wish to see, which, coincidentally, happens to coincide with my own feelings, the stance of FINAFLEX as a company, and in fact the stance majority of the companies in existence in the bb'ing products segment, about anyone who would attempt to do so
good "feedback" or bad, it does not matter..such discourse can set up potential issues, and is why i am leery of even giving accolades myself to other company products - i just try to stay clear, but of course i still do give thumbs up sometimes, if i truly like something or it is a solid product; it is just our nature, to try to help ppl and steer them in what we feel is the "right direction"
conversely however, make no mistake: if i do not like a product, i will stay quiet
it is not my position, to go in and speak on whatever xyz company makes
if cy was an independent doctor, no sourcing (company) that he represents..then i would take no issue with his conduct whatsoever; this is not the case here
i tread lightly here, as (again) what the company wishes to do, does not concern me nor is it my place to speak on it
but an effort here, for those who it is not obvious to already, to clarify the situation and why a particular rep is no longer on this forum -- rather than sitting here taking accusations, or being refuted by another forum rep member of that same company..or whoever else wishes to pile on
06-23-2013, 05:42 PM
06-23-2013, 05:44 PM
06-23-2013, 05:44 PM
06-23-2013, 05:49 PM
please do not start...
whatever his capacity, if he is aligned with and representative of a specific company, and discusses their product, he is for all intents and purposes a rep for that company as it pertains to forum postings
i didn't think that needed to be clarified, but there ya go
and i just got a pm a bit ago - someone asked if we were really going to sue cy!
my gaawd man, seriously..the talk that goes on
for the record: no
we never said anything remotely close to that anywhere, at any time
this issue is closed, as far as we are concerned
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