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    Been experimenting with GDA's (Slintensity and Na-ra-la/agmatine).
    Been taking a GDA before my biggest carb meal which is post workout, but heard (from Mr. Cooper) that GDA's post workout is not necessary - it could be best used at other times - fasted, with other meals with carbs or not. So any other time but post workout with or without food? What is the most effective way to use a GDA?
    And what about Pre-workout: would a GDA with GMS be effective? And what about adding to that quickly absorbed carbs like GlycoMyx or Waxymaize or Gatorade etc..?

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    Mr Cooper said that because insulin sensitivity is already up post workout making the gda redundant.

    Don't over think things man. Take with carbs and reap the rewards

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    if you wanted to do it pre workout i'd pop slin slane and a small carb meal over carb powders, but they should work just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedarce View Post
    if you wanted to do it pre workout i'd pop slin slane and a small carb meal over carb powders, but they should work just the same.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Mr Cooper said that because insulin sensitivity is already up post workout making the gda redundant.

    Don't over think things man. Take with carbs and reap the rewards

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    Ok, thanks!
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    My most important GDA dose of the day is pre bed.
    Allows for a good GH boost and most importantly you look like a freaking Greek god in the morning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Mr Cooper said that because insulin sensitivity is already up post workout making the gda redundant.

    Don't over think things man. Take with carbs and reap the rewards

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    Word.
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    Me too with my meal pre bed . I sleep very well and I wake up full !
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    Pre-bed. Will have to try that! Excellent feedback....thanks again.
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    I take my slin sane v2 when I wake, and pre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    I take my slin sane v2 when I wake, and pre.

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    Thanks for your comment Mike. When taking upon waking and pre-bed (I think that is what you meant), are you eating carbs (or anything else) or are you fasting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Thanks for your comment Mike. When taking upon waking and pre-bed (I think that is what you meant), are you eating carbs (or anything else) or are you fasting?
    Lots take pre-bed on an empty stomach, yields deeper sleep and a wake-up that is dry and lean...really awesome, definitely give it a shot!

    I use my SSv2 before large carb meals and pre-bed, but I don't dose any post-workout. Its not detrimental, and won't hurt, but is arguably less effective and not worth the dosage.
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    Doing so as mentioned above helps clear the blood stream of circulating glucose making for a great fat burning environment upon waking.

    When you wake up, throw in 20-30min of fasted morning liss in and you'll do pretty good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajerone View Post
    Lots take pre-bed on an empty stomach, yields deeper sleep and a wake-up that is dry and lean...really awesome, definitely give it a shot!

    I use my SSv2 before large carb meals and pre-bed, but I don't dose any post-workout. Its not detrimental, and won't hurt, but is arguably less effective and not worth the dosage.
    Great info...thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRob23 View Post
    Doing so as mentioned above helps clear the blood stream of circulating glucose making for a great fat burning environment upon waking.

    When you wake up, throw in 20-30min of fasted morning liss in and you'll do pretty good
    Great info...thanks.
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    Any links to the threads on ssv2 pre-bed. I have been used sparingly with larger carb meals. Also, I typically eat most my carbs post workout and don't use a gda as I believe it's redundant.Interested in this deeper sleep and enhance morning vascularity coupled w fat burning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Any links to the threads on ssv2 pre-bed. I have been used sparingly with larger carb meals. Also, I typically eat most my carbs post workout and don't use a gda as I believe it's redundant.Interested in this deeper sleep and enhance morning vascularity coupled w fat burning!
    I've mostly just seen posts, not specific threads regarding it. I can't comment on its overnight leaning effect, well, because I'm not lean; I can say however that I did have a good nights sleep the two times I did it. I've also taken 2 preworkout by accident from my pill case when I thought it was Joint Help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Any links to the threads on ssv2 pre-bed. I have been used sparingly with larger carb meals. Also, I typically eat most my carbs post workout and don't use a gda as I believe it's redundant.Interested in this deeper sleep and enhance morning vascularity coupled w fat burning!
    Tried it recently for the past week or so - awesome. Great sleep, wake up ripped and full. My has completely shifted. If I took one dose of this a day, it would be on empty stomach before bed. Second dose would be before the the biggest carb meal (non post workout). Now I am using slintensity, but have ssv2 on the way for comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Tried it recently for the past week or so - awesome. Great sleep, wake up ripped and full. My has completely shifted. If I took one dose of this a day, it would be on empty stomach before bed. Second dose would be before the the biggest carb meal (non post workout). Now I am using slintensity, but have ssv2 on the way for comparison.
    Lol....guess you check twice now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    I take my slin sane v2 when I wake, and pre.

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    You guys taking GDA's before bed on an empty stomach? What about the side effects of taking a GDA and not consuming any carbs? Like light headedness .etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwiz View Post
    You guys taking GDA's before bed on an empty stomach? What about the side effects of taking a GDA and not consuming any carbs? Like light headedness .etc
    It's not advisable. Like I previously said, I took 2 prewo by accident and suffered from no ill effects. But yes, I took one right before I went to bed to try it out and slept well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwiz View Post
    You guys taking GDA's before bed on an empty stomach? What about the side effects of taking a GDA and not consuming any carbs? Like light headedness .etc
    Unlike injectable slin the sides in that aspect aren't harsh and don't last long.
    The GH boost over night is great for sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwiz View Post
    You guys taking GDA's before bed on an empty stomach? What about the side effects of taking a GDA and not consuming any carbs? Like light headedness .etc
    Because they work with your body's natural processes, the side effects are minimal if not totally non-existent. It all depends on the strength of the formula and how efficiently your pancreas produces glucagon to offset any hypoglycemia.
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    I'm glad I read this thread. Had never heard about taking a GDA before bed. I'll give it a go tonight and see how it plays out for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Tried it recently for the past week or so - awesome. Great sleep, wake up ripped and full. My has completely shifted. If I took one dose of this a day, it would be on empty stomach before bed. Second dose would be before the the biggest carb meal (non post workout). Now I am using slintensity, but have ssv2 on the way for comparison.
    Very interested in hearing your comparison. I typically dose SSv2 before biggest carb meal excluding post workout meal. Also take a dose pre-bed and enjoy the effects. If I dont take a pre bed dose, I use a dose with breakfast. Id recommend playing with dose timings and how they best work with your schedule or specific day.
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    I'm suprised Anabolic Pump hasn't been mentioned. I was using AP pre training during FTP and liked it. But to be honest I get such great results with it dosing it before carbs that I won't use it otherwise. Pumps and overally recomp... AP has never failed me.

    I always keep a bottle of SSv2 on hand also. I used it specifically for my massive high gi cheat meals while I'm cutting. Keeps me very dry.
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    I've used ap forever and liked it but never thought of using these gdas prebed for better sleep, gh,
    fat loss and waking up shredded
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    I've used ap forever and liked it but never thought of using these gdas prebed for better sleep, gh,
    fat loss and waking up shredded
    Ever backload carbs with AP? I've never woken up in the morning looking so dry and lean, yet so full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    Ever backload carbs with AP? I've never woken up in the morning looking so dry and lean, yet so full.
    Somewhat. That's kind of how I eat. Almost all and any carbs post workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    Ever backload carbs with AP? I've never woken up in the morning looking so dry and lean, yet so full.
    I've been meaning to ask: what does "backload carbs" mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    I've been meaning to ask: what does "backload carbs" mean?
    It is when you eat your daily intake of carbs towards the end of your day, including before bed. Many backloading diets recommend high GI carbs, which IMO is not essential.

    I'm not a big backloader myself. I like to split my carbs up throughout the day, leaving a few hours here and there without carbs. I do LOVE to backload especially when I trained that day, and know I am lifting early the next morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    It is when you eat your daily intake of carbs towards the end of your day, including before bed. Many backloading diets recommend high GI carbs, which IMO is not essential.

    I'm not a big backloader myself. I like to split my carbs up throughout the day, leaving a few hours here and there without carbs. I do LOVE to backload especially when I trained that day, and know I am lifting early the next morning.
    Thanks. That clears it up.
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    Thoughts on buying slintensity to try to dose pre bed for the summer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Thoughts on buying slintensity to try to dose pre bed for the summer?
    I have been doing this regime for about 2 weeks now and I really like it. Sleep is better and I wake up full and leaner looking than I normally would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Thoughts on buying slintensity to try to dose pre bed for the summer?
    Give it a whirl. We've had a lot of people report good results with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Thoughts on buying slintensity to try to dose pre bed for the summer?

    I haven't used slintensity prebed, but I can tell you both SS and SSv.2 are awesome prebed.
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    Since I started taking Slin-Sane pre-bed, I have had some serious knockout sleep. Cannot notice too much difference in looking leaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Give it a whirl. We've had a lot of people report good results with this.
    Oh fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Give it a whirl. We've had a lot of people report good results with this.
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