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Tell me if I should add any thing else to my stack

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What is the clinical dose for peptopro preworkout ?
 

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A bowl with milk and a spoon perhaps?...lol...jk...seriously good stack though....now focus on finishing fixing the burner on the stove!
 
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For mid workout I am going with vitargo and ether power shock and or modern bcaa+.
 
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A bowl with milk and a spoon perhaps?...lol...jk...seriously good stack though....now focus on finishing fixing the burner on the stove!
Damn mouse is hiding and that's why it's open lol.
 
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Not enough people take in mid workout BCAAs...so beneficial.
So pre I am taking 2 grams of peptopro than mid workout I'm taking 10 grams or modern, is 2 grams enough pre?
 

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I'd raise it a little myself but if your budget is tight then it's better than nothing. Do you have a jug of whey protein to throw in the mix perhaps?
 

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Check this out...study suggests a pre workout shake is more important than post...so you'd wanna take advantage of things.

Timing of amino acid-carbohydrate ingestion alters anabolic response of muscle to resistance exercise.
Tipton KD, Rasmussen BB, Miller SL, Wolf SE, Owens-Stovall SK, Petrini BE, Wolfe RR.
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Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, Texas 77550, USA. [email protected]
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The present study was designed to determine whether consumption of an oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement (EAC) before exercise results in a greater anabolic response than supplementation after resistance exercise. Six healthy human subjects participated in two trials in random order, PRE (EAC consumed immediately before exercise), and POST (EAC consumed immediately after exercise). A primed, continuous infusion of L-[ring-(2)H(5)]phenylalanine, femoral arteriovenous catheterization, and muscle biopsies from the vastus lateralis were used to determine phenylalanine concentrations, enrichments, and net uptake across the leg. Blood and muscle phenylalanine concentrations were increased by approximately 130% after drink consumption in both trials. Amino acid delivery to the leg was increased during exercise and remained elevated for the 2 h after exercise in both trials. Delivery of amino acids (amino acid concentration times blood flow) was significantly greater in PRE than in POST during the exercise bout and in the 1st h after exercise (P < 0.05). Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg was greater (P = 0.0002) during PRE (209 +/- 42 mg) than during POST (81 +/- 19). Phenylalanine disappearance rate, an indicator of muscle protein synthesis from blood amino acids, increased after EAC consumption in both trials. These results indicate that the response of net muscle protein synthesis to consumption of an EAC solution immediately before resistance exercise is greater than that when the solution is consumed after exercise, primarily because of an increase in muscle protein synthesis as a result of increased delivery of amino acids to the leg
 
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I'd raise it a little myself but if your budget is tight then it's better than nothing. Do you have a jug of whey protein to throw in the mix perhaps?
Not a hydro which is what you need pre. I have bunch of wpc mpc Etc good for general use. I just ordered Spp which I will take 10 grams pre with 4 grams of ppp? I am Not sure the clinical dose is.
 
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Check this out...study suggests a pre workout shake is more important than post...so you'd wanna take advantage of things.

Timing of amino acid-carbohydrate ingestion alters anabolic response of muscle to resistance exercise.
Tipton KD, Rasmussen BB, Miller SL, Wolf SE, Owens-Stovall SK, Petrini BE, Wolfe RR.
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Department of Surgery, University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston, Texas 77550, USA. [email protected]
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The present study was designed to determine whether consumption of an oral essential amino acid-carbohydrate supplement (EAC) before exercise results in a greater anabolic response than supplementation after resistance exercise. Six healthy human subjects participated in two trials in random order, PRE (EAC consumed immediately before exercise), and POST (EAC consumed immediately after exercise). A primed, continuous infusion of L-[ring-(2)H(5)]phenylalanine, femoral arteriovenous catheterization, and muscle biopsies from the vastus lateralis were used to determine phenylalanine concentrations, enrichments, and net uptake across the leg. Blood and muscle phenylalanine concentrations were increased by approximately 130% after drink consumption in both trials. Amino acid delivery to the leg was increased during exercise and remained elevated for the 2 h after exercise in both trials. Delivery of amino acids (amino acid concentration times blood flow) was significantly greater in PRE than in POST during the exercise bout and in the 1st h after exercise (P < 0.05). Total net phenylalanine uptake across the leg was greater (P = 0.0002) during PRE (209 +/- 42 mg) than during POST (81 +/- 19). Phenylalanine disappearance rate, an indicator of muscle protein synthesis from blood amino acids, increased after EAC consumption in both trials. These results indicate that the response of net muscle protein synthesis to consumption of an EAC solution immediately before resistance exercise is greater than that when the solution is consumed after exercise, primarily because of an increase in muscle protein synthesis as a result of increased delivery of amino acids to the leg
This study does not mean that post-workout protein ingestion is not important, and there are a plethora of studies which elude to this.
 

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This study does not mean that post-workout protein ingestion is not important, and there are a plethora of studies which elude to this.
I agree. I was simply emphasising the importance of pre workout protein.
 
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So pre I am taking 2 grams of peptopro than mid workout I'm taking 10 grams or modern, is 2 grams enough pre?
2g? Isn't that a little low. From my past recent, i'm pretty sure it was in the 10-15g range. But I may be wrong!

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Well it's not whey isolation, it's a hydro which is very fast and better absorbed from what I understand. I could take 4 grams.
 
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Are there any studies on plasma protein with humans?
 

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Well it's not whey isolation, it's a hydro which is very fast and better absorbed from what I understand. I could take 4 grams.
It's casein hydrosylate. It's not better absorbed, just rapidly absorbed, which doesn't really matter for bodybuilding. 4g of protein is a joke
 
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Faster absorption then whey.
 
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I just read a interview where they say up to 20 grams of peptopro with no reference to the study and that's all I got.
 

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