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    We know Anabeta increases hunger. So if you combined this with an app suppressant, I imagine it would result in an environment that would cause more fat (and muscle) was used for energy? Your opinions are appreciated.

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    If this means anything, Anabeta Elite really increased my hunger when I ran it and I was only doing two a day which I felt to be my sweet spot. I ate more as a result but I didn't gain fat and in fact I leaned out some. But I was not on a cut.

    So increased anabolism was apparant and my strength and body fullness increased.

    It would imagine it would work well on a cut to retain muscle but it would be a sin if you'd known that even at maintenance caloric intake your bodyfat would have still decreased along with increased lean mass. Be sure to get a good bang for your buck from this product.

    Just my opinion.
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    ABE would be a better option due to the thermogenic nature of Forskolin. The increase in both thyroid and test will create a more favorable anabolic environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    We know Anabeta increases hunger. So if you combined this with an app suppressant, I imagine it would result in an environment that would cause more fat (and muscle) was used for energy? Your opinions are appreciated.
    During cuts I personally prefer Anabeta elite over Anabeta. The added forskolin and 5-androsten are ideal for fat loss and cortisol control.

    Also about the hunger issue and cutting. I too get an extreme increase in appetite on ABE but have picked up a few tricks for cutting. I tend to utilize a night time dosing with my latest meal or snack. This helps unless you have trouble with sleep walk eating!
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    You could also always add a appetite suppressant like you mentioned. Alphamine has very good feedback and you can usually find great deals on it. I personally love the stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    ABE would be a better option due to the thermogenic nature of Forskolin. The increase in both thyroid and test will create a more favorable anabolic environment.
    this...ABE is treating me well
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    I concur about ABE and using a dose with your last meal to help combat hunger. Also pick up some extra BCAA's to help blunt the hunger and stay anabolic. Let us know how using an APP suppressant works with it if you go that route.
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    ABE is great on a recomp/cut. As LTL stated, if you get hunger increases from ABE, which I do, grab some Alphamine or another appetite suppressor. These two combined for me leveled off eachother and worked great.
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    OxyElite Pro (the old and new) actually suppress my appetite rather well. You may want to give that a look
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    This is where I put in my obligatory Alphamine+ABE stack for a total recomp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This is where I put in my obligatory Alphamine+ABE stack for a total recomp.
    I agree here.
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    Anabeta alone would make you hungry, it would be necessary to combine it with something else to cut. I still wouldn't recommend it for a cut, it seems a waste of a natty supplement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    We know Anabeta increases hunger. So if you combined this with an app suppressant, I imagine it would result in an environment that would cause more fat (and muscle) was used for energy? Your opinions are appreciated.
    Appetite has little to do with what nutrients are used for fuel, so that approach won't do much for you. ABE+ Alphamine is a good stacking option as already mentioned.

    IMO ABE is a good recomp/ bulking supplement but can be used effectively on a cut.

    ECA would be my go-to for a strict cut though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1sc1ple View Post
    I concur about ABE and using a dose with your last meal to help combat hunger. Also pick up some extra BCAA's to help blunt the hunger and stay anabolic. Let us know how using an APP suppressant works with it if you go that route.
    For sure, thanks for the advice.
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    If you're going on a cut I would suggest ECA + Anabeta Elite later in the day.

    ECA throughout the morning and early afternoon, 2 anabeta before workout, 2 anabeta before post workout meal.

    I am personally doing a recomp and go through intermittent fasting, so taking ECA in the morning / early afternoon will leave me without any appetite until ~3PM, when I break my fast. I take 2 AB before workout at 5:30, then 2 after and then eat a whole lot of food, 4.5lbs of food yesterday for instance. Been growing steady and losing a lot of BF% along the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    If you're going on a cut I would suggest ECA + Anabeta Elite later in the day.

    ECA throughout the morning and early afternoon, 2 anabeta before workout, 2 anabeta before post workout meal.

    I am personally doing a recomp and go through intermittent fasting, so taking ECA in the morning / early afternoon will leave me without any appetite until ~3PM, when I break my fast. I take 2 AB before workout at 5:30, then 2 after and then eat a whole lot of food, 4.5lbs of food yesterday for instance. Been growing steady and losing a lot of BF% along the way.
    Thanks for the advice - I see a common thread. Cheers...
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    I'm currently cutting and running Alphamine @ x3 a day, and Anabeta ELITE. I'm leaning out very nicely but my muscles are staying very full, even on low carb. I attribute this to the Anabeta Elite. Usually it shoots my appetite up when I use it during a bulk, but the Alphamine appetite suppression is counteracting that. Great combo for a cut or even a lean bulk. Just need to alter your macros whichever way you're looking to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    I'm currently cutting and running Alphamine @ x3 a day, and Anabeta ELITE. I'm leaning out very nicely but my muscles are staying very full, even on low carb. I attribute this to the Anabeta Elite. Usually it shoots my appetite up when I use it during a bulk, but the Alphamine appetite suppression is counteracting that. Great combo for a cut or even a lean bulk. Just need to alter your macros whichever way you're looking to go.
    For sure man. ABE really does wonders for my physique. My muscles always look fuller, harder, and more defined. With Alphamine added, game over
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    I'm currently cutting and running Alphamine @ x3 a day, and Anabeta ELITE. I'm leaning out very nicely but my muscles are staying very full, even on low carb. I attribute this to the Anabeta Elite. Usually it shoots my appetite up when I use it during a bulk, but the Alphamine appetite suppression is counteracting that. Great combo for a cut or even a lean bulk. Just need to alter your macros whichever way you're looking to go.
    Clem, one thing I would like to ask, since I am considering adding ABE to my cut as well, is eventually the body does get used to Alphamine ( i know mine did a while back, so I went off the boil for about 7 weeks) so then how do you cope with the mental hunger pangs that ABE will create?

    I know the option is to obviously stop with ABE as well, but the hunger pangs it generates are mental ( i got burnt this way trying to mix C20 and Alphamine)
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    Yet another vote for AnaBeta Elite. Both versions will help preserve muslce, but Elite seems to be what works best for most on a cut.
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    Anabeta elite because of the forksolin (boost thyroid function) and 7-dhea which can help control appetite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    If you're going on a cut I would suggest ECA + Anabeta Elite later in the day.

    ECA throughout the morning and early afternoon, 2 anabeta before workout, 2 anabeta before post workout meal.

    I am personally doing a recomp and go through intermittent fasting, so taking ECA in the morning / early afternoon will leave me without any appetite until ~3PM, when I break my fast. I take 2 AB before workout at 5:30, then 2 after and then eat a whole lot of food, 4.5lbs of food yesterday for instance. Been growing steady and losing a lot of BF% along the way.

    Do you do IF for all phases?

    I am super stim sensitive - I can handle only about 30 grams of caffeine a day (and no E at all) or I won't sleep!
    Any suggestions on an app suppressant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Do you do IF for all phases?

    I am super stim sensitive - I can handle only about 30 grams of caffeine a day (and no E at all) or I won't sleep!
    Any suggestions on an app suppressant?
    I assume this was a typo. Did you mean to say 30mg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I assume this was a typo. Did you mean to say 30mg?
    Seriously - more than a small cup of coffee and not anywhere after about 9AM and I can't sleep....I am very stim sensitive.
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    Op just my experience here bud, but I have ran multiple bottles of both and tbh I see no difference in hunger between the two. ABE is suited more towards recomp but I will say this I will never cut again without either or don't matter which one to me. cutting is a mental game bud, you either really want to get lean or just dream about doing it. You are already in your own head about increased appetite. You're gonna be hungry with it or without it IMO, so just deal with it and keep your eye on the end result bud. I will always cut with these because my strength stays for the most part, I continue to feel full as opposed to flat, and I just plain believe I hang onto more muscle while cutting than without it. It is by far a super duper great supp IMO. Good luck bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post

    Do you do IF for all phases?

    I am super stim sensitive - I can handle only about 30 grams of caffeine a day (and no E at all) or I won't sleep!
    Any suggestions on an app suppressant?
    Consider alpha t2. Although it technically contains a "stimulant", the majority of users feel nothing stimulating of the sort from it. I have a pretty crappy stimulant tolerance (takes me a week or two to build up to two scoops Alphamine after a month off), and alpha t2 is nothing but positive for me.

    I can take it pre bed if I like, but it provides an immense thermogenesis and appetite suppressant affect.
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    Great for muscle preservation if done right...but I suggest stacking with AT2 or Alphamine to balance out the increased appetite that comes with the anabolic nature of AnaBeta
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