Stop Aging/Anti Aging Supplements?

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I've read about this subject in many different sources but never in the bodybuilding community. I'm curious to see what all your thoughts are on the subject. I know that reversing your age is improbable but what about slowing down the aging process? What would you guys suggest I look into to prevent aging?
 
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oh my god the list is endless but my favs are as follows:

Grape seed extract
Toco 8
Querctien
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Tumeric
TEA...of any kind
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Pterostilbene[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ginseng
[/FONT]Fish Oil
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and all of your joint support supps[/FONT]
 

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I've been taking the fish oil for a while now def have noticed a difference
 
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oh my god the list is endless but my favs are as follows:

Grape seed extract
Toco 8
Querctien
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Tumeric
TEA...of any kind
Pterostilbene
Ginseng
Fish Oil
and all of your joint support supps
good list here op but you cant really slow down aging to much
 
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For the last decade, the science of aging has increasingly focused on sirtuins, a group of genes that are believed to protect many organisms, including mammals, against diseases of aging. Mounting evidence has demonstrated that resveratrol, a compound found in the skin of grapes as well as in peanuts and berries, increases the activity of a specific sirtuin,SIRT1, that protects the body from diseases by revving up the mitochondria, a kind of cellular battery that slowly runs down as we age. By recharging the batteries, SIRT1 can have profound effects on health.

Mice on resveratrol have twice the endurance and are relatively immune from effects of obesity and aging. In experiments with yeast, nematodes, bees, flies and mice, lifespan has been extended.

"In the history of pharmaceuticals, there has never been a drug that binds to a protein to make it run faster in the way that resveratrol activates SIRT1," said David Sinclair, Harvard Medical School professor of genetics and senior author on the paper. "Almost all drugs either slow or block them."

In 2006, Sinclair's group published a study showing that resveratrol could extend the lifespan of mice, and the company Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, which was started by HMS researchers, was founded to make drugs more potent than resveratrol. (Sinclair is a co-founder of Sirtris, a GlaxoSmithKline company, and remains a scientific advisor. Sirtris currently has a number of sirtuin-activating compounds in clinical trials.)

But while numerous studies, from Sinclair's lab and elsewhere, underscored a direct causal link between resveratrol and SIRT1, some scientists claimed the studies were flawed.

The contention lay in the way SIRT1 was studied in vitro, using a specific chemical group attached to the targets of SIRT1 that fluoresces more brightly as SIRT1 activity increases. This chemical group, however, is synthetic and does not exist in cells or in nature, and without it the experiments did not work. As a response to this, a paper published in 2010 surmised that resveratrol's activation of SIRT1 was an experimental artifact, one that existed in the lab, but not in an actual animal. SIRT1 activity in mice was, the paper claimed, at best an indirect result of resveratrol, and perhaps even a sheer coincidence.

As a result, a debate erupted over the particular pathway that resveratrol and similar compounds affected. Does resveratrol directly activate SIRT1 or is the effect indirect? "We had six years of work telling us that this was most definitely not an artifact," said Sinclair. "Still, we needed to figure out precisely how resveratrol works. The answer was extremely elegant."

Sinclair and Basil Hubbard, then a doctoral student in the lab, teamed up with a group of researchers from both the National Institutes of Health and Sirtris Pharmaceuticals to address this question.

First, the team addressed the problem of the fluorescent chemical group. Why was it required for resveratrol to rev up SIRT1 in the test tube? Instead of dismissing the result as an artifact, the researchers surmised that the chemical might be mimicking molecules found naturally in the cell. These turned out to be a specific class of amino acid, the building blocks of proteins. In nature, there are three amino acids that resemble the fluorescent chemical group, one of which is tryptophan, a molecule abundant in turkey and notable for inducing drowsiness. When researchers repeated the experiment, swapping the fluorescing chemical group on the substrate with a tryptophan residue, resveratrol and similar molecules were once again able to activate SIRT1.

"We discovered a signature for activation that is in fact found in the cell and doesn't require these other synthetic groups," said Hubbard, first author of the study. "This was a critical result, which allowed us to bridge the gap between our biochemical and physiological findings.

"Next, we needed to identify precisely how resveratrol presses on SIRT1's accelerator," said Sinclair. The team tested approximately 2,000 mutants of the SIRT1 gene, eventually identifying one mutant that completely blocked resveratrol's effect. The particular mutation resulted in the substitution of a single amino acid residue, out of the 747 that make up SIRT1. The researchers also tested hundreds of other molecules from the Sirtris library, many of which are far more powerful than resveratrol, against this mutant SIRT1. All failed to activate it.

The authors propose a model for how resveratrol works: When the molecule binds, a hinge flips, and SIRT1 becomes hyperactive.

Although these experiments occurred in a test tube, once the researchers identified the precise location of the accelerator pedal on SIRT1 - and how to break it - they could test their ideas in a cell. They replaced the normal SIRT1 gene in muscle and skin cells with the accelerator-dead mutant. Now they could test precisely whether resveratrol and the drugs in development work by tweaking SIRT1 (in which case they would not work) or one of the thousands of other proteins in a cell (in which they would work). While resveratrol and the drugs tested revved up mitochondria in normal cells (an effect caused activating by SIRT1), the mutant cells were completely immune.

"This was the killer experiment," said Sinclair. "There is no rational alternative explanation other than resveratrol directly activates SIRT1 in cells. Now that we know the exact location on SIRT1 where and how resveratrol works, we can engineer even better molecules that more precisely and effectively trigger the effects of resveratrol."
 
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That's a very long post, but I will say when I'm not on cycle I drink red wine everyday. So I hope that I'm somewhat covered...lol
 
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I take 98% trans resvestrol..
 

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Beside lifting, hitting your micronutrients, Fiber....

Selenium
ALCAR
Carnitine L-Tartrate
Turmeric and Ginger
Collagen 1, 2, 3
Fish Oil
Magnesium
 

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Has anyone had any success with something that slows down/stops/reverses the visual signs of aging (ie wrinkles, decreased collagen, roughness, etc...)
 
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HGH Injections.

Those work good.
 
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dhea
beta alanine(carnosine)
vit D
astaxanthin
green tea
curcumin
fishoil
 
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Well as a 47 year old as of march 1, I feel like I can address this thread with some degree of expertise,
The following supplements are things that seem to work well for me,

Fish oil
Beta Sitosterol
Saw palmetto
Vitamin E tocotrienols
Na-r-ala

However the number one most important thing is a complete and healthy diet, what you put in your body directly affects both how you feel, and how you look.
It's not just if it fits into your macros. Good quality proteins, healthy fats and unprocessed carbs, as well as plenty of fiber will make a world of difference.
 

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For the last decade, the science of aging has increasingly focused on sirtuins, a group of genes that are believed to protect many organisms, including mammals, against diseases of aging. Mounting evidence has demonstrated that resveratrol, a compound found in the skin of grapes as well as in peanuts and berries, increases the activity of a specific sirtuin,SIRT1, that protects the body from diseases by revving up the mitochondria, a kind of cellular battery that slowly runs down as we age. By recharging the batteries, SIRT1 can have profound effects on health.

Mice on resveratrol have twice the endurance and are relatively immune from effects of obesity and aging. In experiments with yeast, nematodes, bees, flies and mice, lifespan has been extended.

"In the history of pharmaceuticals, there has never been a drug that binds to a protein to make it run faster in the way that resveratrol activates SIRT1," said David Sinclair, Harvard Medical School professor of genetics and senior author on the paper. "Almost all drugs either slow or block them."

In 2006, Sinclair's group published a study showing that resveratrol could extend the lifespan of mice, and the company Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, which was started by HMS researchers, was founded to make drugs more potent than resveratrol. (Sinclair is a co-founder of Sirtris, a GlaxoSmithKline company, and remains a scientific advisor. Sirtris currently has a number of sirtuin-activating compounds in clinical trials.)

But while numerous studies, from Sinclair's lab and elsewhere, underscored a direct causal link between resveratrol and SIRT1, some scientists claimed the studies were flawed.

The contention lay in the way SIRT1 was studied in vitro, using a specific chemical group attached to the targets of SIRT1 that fluoresces more brightly as SIRT1 activity increases. This chemical group, however, is synthetic and does not exist in cells or in nature, and without it the experiments did not work. As a response to this, a paper published in 2010 surmised that resveratrol's activation of SIRT1 was an experimental artifact, one that existed in the lab, but not in an actual animal. SIRT1 activity in mice was, the paper claimed, at best an indirect result of resveratrol, and perhaps even a sheer coincidence.

As a result, a debate erupted over the particular pathway that resveratrol and similar compounds affected. Does resveratrol directly activate SIRT1 or is the effect indirect? "We had six years of work telling us that this was most definitely not an artifact," said Sinclair. "Still, we needed to figure out precisely how resveratrol works. The answer was extremely elegant."

Sinclair and Basil Hubbard, then a doctoral student in the lab, teamed up with a group of researchers from both the National Institutes of Health and Sirtris Pharmaceuticals to address this question.

First, the team addressed the problem of the fluorescent chemical group. Why was it required for resveratrol to rev up SIRT1 in the test tube? Instead of dismissing the result as an artifact, the researchers surmised that the chemical might be mimicking molecules found naturally in the cell. These turned out to be a specific class of amino acid, the building blocks of proteins. In nature, there are three amino acids that resemble the fluorescent chemical group, one of which is tryptophan, a molecule abundant in turkey and notable for inducing drowsiness. When researchers repeated the experiment, swapping the fluorescing chemical group on the substrate with a tryptophan residue, resveratrol and similar molecules were once again able to activate SIRT1.

"We discovered a signature for activation that is in fact found in the cell and doesn't require these other synthetic groups," said Hubbard, first author of the study. "This was a critical result, which allowed us to bridge the gap between our biochemical and physiological findings.

"Next, we needed to identify precisely how resveratrol presses on SIRT1's accelerator," said Sinclair. The team tested approximately 2,000 mutants of the SIRT1 gene, eventually identifying one mutant that completely blocked resveratrol's effect. The particular mutation resulted in the substitution of a single amino acid residue, out of the 747 that make up SIRT1. The researchers also tested hundreds of other molecules from the Sirtris library, many of which are far more powerful than resveratrol, against this mutant SIRT1. All failed to activate it.

The authors propose a model for how resveratrol works: When the molecule binds, a hinge flips, and SIRT1 becomes hyperactive.

Although these experiments occurred in a test tube, once the researchers identified the precise location of the accelerator pedal on SIRT1 - and how to break it - they could test their ideas in a cell. They replaced the normal SIRT1 gene in muscle and skin cells with the accelerator-dead mutant. Now they could test precisely whether resveratrol and the drugs in development work by tweaking SIRT1 (in which case they would not work) or one of the thousands of other proteins in a cell (in which they would work). While resveratrol and the drugs tested revved up mitochondria in normal cells (an effect caused activating by SIRT1), the mutant cells were completely immune.

"This was the killer experiment," said Sinclair. "There is no rational alternative explanation other than resveratrol directly activates SIRT1 in cells. Now that we know the exact location on SIRT1 where and how resveratrol works, we can engineer even better molecules that more precisely and effectively trigger the effects of resveratrol."
What resveratol product do you recommend?
 

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One of my main concerns are the visual signs of Aging i.e. wrinkles, sagging skin, sun spots, etc...
 

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One of my main concerns are the visual signs of Aging i.e. wrinkles, sagging skin, sun spots, etc...
eat your food steamed, use sunscreen before you go out, take the right supplements (collagen type 1 ect...), sleep on your back and you will be fine
 
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eat your food steamed, use sunscreen before you go out, take the right supplements (collagen type 1 ect...), sleep on your back and you will be fine
I wouldn't take advise on this subject (wrinkles) from a guy called Leatherface.....just saying lol

Just messin around it was good advise
 
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We all know HMB is anti-catabolic and can help preserve muscle with aging, but research also suggests that it can help prevent brain aging as well.
This study establishes beneficial effects of HMB on the aging brain, and it provides the foundation for further investigation of the potential nootropic effects of HMB in the cognitive and neural decline of normal healthy aging. Studies examining the effects of HMB on cognitive performance in middle age and aging rats are in progress and indicate that HMB is often beneficial
 
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I keep hearing something about Telomeres and aging. I have no idea...
 

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Pycnogenol is also nice

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270036

This study provides skin-physiological and for the first time molecular evidence that Pycnogenol supplementation benefits human skin by increasing skin hydration and skin elasticity. These effects are most likely due to an increased synthesis of extracellular matrix molecules such as hyaluronic acid and possibly collagen. Pycnogenol supplementation may thus be useful to counteract the clinical signs of skin aging.
 
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If someone is interested in hyaluronic acid lmk bc I have a couple bottles. One is still sealed.
 
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Off topic but I started using Apple Cider vinegar to aid in digestion and other great factors. Alot of times it's what you put in your body that determines the outside.

As mentioned earlier, antioxidants all the way, sun screen, if you are bald (ing) a hat and the list goes on
 

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I think bulk Hylauronic Acid would be cheaper? Wonder if it would work better? And isn't Collagen JELL-O? :D
I have not see a link between hyaluronic acid supplementation and hyaluronic acid synthesis? Pycnogenol is not cheap but now you know why

collagen hydrolyzed type 1 is better absorbed than jell o, but jell o is still fine to take if you have no choice, collagen should be in every athlete supplements stash, a lot of benefits for joints/tendons/skin
 

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So far, Reduce Aging Skin Stack:

Pycnogenol
Collagen Hydrolyzed Type 1
Fish Oil


Anything else you guys recommend?
 
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I keep hearing something about Telomeres and aging. I have no idea...
Yeah, I have been getting emails about telomeres, and if I end up reading that dang "aglet" analogy one more time.......
 

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