DS's CRAZE. Holllly crapppp

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  1. DS's CRAZE. Holllly crapppp


    WTH is in this stuff. OMG

    Best workout in ages!

    Holy mackeral

    I wonder how quickly one attenuates this stuff (builds tolerance)
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  2. Looking back I think I went thru 2 tubs before I started to notice any drop off. But I still use it and have found nothing comes close to it. Once you notice it dropping you can slowly step up the scoops from 1.25 to eventually 2. I find that 1.5 is pretty good still and I've used it since it's be available.

  3. i stop after half a tub because indont like upping the dose more than one scoop. youll know when the tolerance sets though, itll just knock you the fuk out

    i agree though, im craze's hore. i got 3 tubs back when the whole lawsuit thing came up and i still havnt opened my 3rd one yet
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  4. I never felt anything from craze and i have been playing around with the dosing quite alot. All i get is intestinal discomfort(bloating or something) and brain fog.

  5. Hits everyone different... I've been using it from it's release, & love it stacked with hemavol. 2 scoops, twice a week. Awesome stuff!

  6. The first tub knocked my socks off at the beginning and had about half effect by the end. I have tried Crazolade and their UK limited edition flavour and they don't come close to what I felt to start with. I didn't even bother finishing the tub lol.
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  7. Yeah, anyone who is first trying Craze I wholeheartedly recommend buying the grape. Tastes like cough syrup, but will knock your socks off. Crazolade and Apple Pie or w/e, for whatever reason, taste better but do not deliver the same impact.

    There is still speculation whether OG Grape and current Grape have different formulas. Obliviously DS piles on that nothing has changed. Either way, grape is still the only flavor of Craze that is worth buying IMO.

    However... the question at this point is if PES Enhanced will take the throne.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by unzarida View Post
    Yeah, anyone who is first trying Craze I wholeheartedly recommend buying the grape. Tastes like cough syrup, but will knock your socks off. Crazolade and Apple Pie or w/e, for whatever reason, taste better but do not deliver the same impact.

    There is still speculation whether OG Grape and current Grape have different formulas. Obliviously DS piles on that nothing has changed. Either way, grape is still the only flavor of Craze that is worth buying IMO.

    However... the question at this point is if PES Enhanced will take the throne.
    They are all the same man. Lol.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by KerplunkDS View Post
    They are all the same man. Lol.
    Disagree, but all I can provide you on the subject is my opinion and ancedotal reports via google search.

    Craze Candy Grape 238.5g; serving size: 5.3 grams
    Craze "Crazolade" Berry Lemonade 261g; serving size: 5.8 grams

    DS claims that the difference between the servings is merely because of the flavoring ingredeints, but in mine, and many others, Candy Grape packs the biggest punch out of all of them.


    edit: oh just realized you are a DS rep. No disrespect, but I wish you guys would stop preaching that. It can't be placebo on THIS LARGE of a scale.

    Being said, I like Craze and will continue to buy it until something better comes along.
    Last edited by unzarida; 02-18-2013 at 02:49 PM. Reason: mistake

  10. Craze is an awesome pre workout. Most people dont seem to build much of a tolerance either so thats a plus!

    For some it seems to be a hit or miss but a majority of people love it!
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  11. They sell "candy grape" here, is that the one?

  12. A buddy of mine gave me couple scoops of his candy grape and that got me hooked on Craze. I bought the berry lemonade flavor and I dont feel it like I did the other stuff even after a stim break. No idea what the deal is, but nothing has ever compared to my first experience with Craze.

  13. Crazes formula has changed no doubt about it, it doesn't give the same push as before however still my favorite focus supplement

  14. do you guys who think the formula is so different that it was probably your body's first time with one or some of the ingredients? It will never be the same as it was the first few times you used it because it was likely something brand new that your body has ever seen. I draw the analogy to a lot of drugs that are addictive after 1 or 2 uses. That feeling you get is never the same yet drug users chase that feeling and require more and more of the drug to achieve a high thats equal to or similar to the first times they used it. It's the same with anything new you put into your body that affects how you feel.

    Same reason people have to cycle of 1,3 products because the affects diminish over time. Craze does, but I don't find the drop off as pronounced or as quick as 1,3. Nor do I have the same sides with it.

  15. I bought the stuff right before the LONG thread on here that slams the product (FDA ingredient issues or something like that)

    Never opened it so I have the original grape

    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    Crazes formula has changed no doubt about it, it doesn't give the same push as before however still my favorite focus supplement
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    I bought the stuff right before the LONG thread on here that slams the product (FDA ingredient issues or something like that)

    Never opened it so I have the original grape
    There are people out there who would pay a lot of money for that tub lol.
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  17. I flushed my craze down the toilet. The OG version that everyones' after.. **** was dirty.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    There are people out there who would pay a lot of money for that tub lol.
    haha No doubt. ALL MINE

    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    I flushed my craze down the toilet. The OG version that everyones' after.. **** was dirty.
    Why?
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  19. Hands down strawberry swirl is the best, tried the OG and actually pushed me away but im back on Craze(strawberry) and Origin stack
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  20. On my last OG tub of grape Craze. Best pre I've ever used.
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  21. I absolutely love grape craze. I've been buying it for almost a year... even though the effects have diminished I cant get off the binge... Hopefully I can take a tolerance break if Enhanced can pull me away for awhile

  22. Quote Originally Posted by 804 View Post
    I absolutely love grape craze. I've been buying it for almost a year... even though the effects have diminished I cant get off the binge... Hopefully I can take a tolerance break if Enhanced can pull me away for awhile
    No way the focus on craze is too good. 1 scoop craze and 1 scoop focus xt is life.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post

    Why?
    honestly bro - it made me sick. i just plain felt like shi.t after working out. it actually ruined my day - each time i tried it, which was a total of three times. seriously felt comparable to coming down from a meth binge. no thanks. i wanted to believe, i wanted to like it ..it had so much hype. anyways i let a friend try it. he was not a fan. so it sat around for quite some time and i just ended up pitching it.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    No way the focus on craze is too good. 1 scoop craze and 1 scoop focus xt is life.
    I liked the Enhanced focus better. I'm a Craze guy too.
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  25. Craze is the best PWO i've ever used. Too bad it gave me limp dick. Sigh.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by TxHomeGrown View Post
    Craze is the best PWO i've ever used. Too bad it gave me limp dick. Sigh.
    Believe it or not, It will randomly do that for me too. My Ex actually said something about it... We would go work out together and on random occasions; the shower together after thing just wasn't happening.. She wanted me to stop using it.. And that would be how she became my ex

  27. i can also disagree..

    i have a berry craze and a grape craze and i can tell u the grape is 100x more potent than the berry. The grape isn't even OG. NOt sure what is in the grape that makes it different but it much different.

  28. They think the consumer is stupid I guess. We obviously ALL know there is a difference. New craze is still different than all pre's out. However, it is not the same as the first batches. End of discussion. Who knows if the reps even got the og craze. No fault of theirs. Typical Cahill. Sad that the industry has people like this
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    WTH is in this stuff. OMG

    Best workout in ages!

    Holy mackeral

    I wonder how quickly one attenuates this stuff (builds tolerance)
    Due to the nature of PEA and friends, tolerance will actually build up very rapidly
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Due to the nature of PEA and friends, tolerance will actually build up very rapidly
    Other than N,N-DEPEA i highly doubt the other phenetylamines make it to the CNS to any significant degree

  31. btw whats the ingredient in craze that gives the nice stimulating effects?

  32. I hear ya. Im like that with a lot of supps.

    Thanks for the candid feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    honestly bro - it made me sick. i just plain felt like shi.t after working out. it actually ruined my day - each time i tried it, which was a total of three times. seriously felt comparable to coming down from a meth binge. no thanks. i wanted to believe, i wanted to like it ..it had so much hype. anyways i let a friend try it. he was not a fan. so it sat around for quite some time and i just ended up pitching it.
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  33. Ugg! Im saving it for chest and leg day only then

    Thanks foer the heads up Coop

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Due to the nature of PEA and friends, tolerance will actually build up very rapidly
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  34. I gotta admit, I don't know what is in Craze that makes it soo good for most people. I really don't see anything that stands out in the ingredient profile at all. Of course I know the only way to see how it would affect me is to buy some, which I will do shortly.

    Most pwo's don't really get me going much these days so I only hope Craze is as strong as it says it is. Been getting good results from Nano Vapor (surprisingly) so Craze will be the next pre I purchase. Craze is pretty expensive though!

  35. the Dendrobium is probably the new ingredient you're not use to which works w/ the other ingredients to provide that great feeling most people get.

  36. cant you just switch it up between craze and good ol dmaa when tolerance starts to set in?

    i just come off craze for about 2 months when it stops working. but now im curious about switch hitting the two every month or so

  37. I used a tub of it and loved the effects. After that, it puts me to sleep now. I'll be fine until I take a dose of craze, then lights out.

  38. **** ****s me up! Makes me all weird an paranoid haha I cant focus in **** maybe 3 scoops is the problem haha

  39. Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Other than N,N-DEPEA i highly doubt the other phenetylamines make it to the CNS to any significant degree
    Tolerance can build up peripherally too
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  40. Quote Originally Posted by dubfungus View Post
    **** ****s me up! Makes me all weird an paranoid haha I cant focus in **** maybe 3 scoops is the problem haha
    Maybe if you read the label you would understand that 2 scoops is the maximum. Exceeding 2 scoops is/ can be dangerous man. Just because it isn't really stim heavy doesn't mean it can't hurt you.
  

  
 

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