SAM-E or 5-htp for moderate depression?
- 02-14-2013, 10:12 PM
- 02-14-2013, 10:19 PM
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02-14-2013, 10:28 PM
02-14-2013, 10:34 PM
02-14-2013, 10:44 PM
Very interesting blend indeed!
Looks like it has antidepressant/antianxiety/aphrodisiac ingredients.
Found it now at my supplier-will probably add it to my order-not too expensive either.
How did it work for you?
So you`re thinking I should get both and SAM-e(this one is a little pricy though)
02-14-2013, 10:51 PM
02-14-2013, 10:55 PM
02-14-2013, 11:19 PM
Rhodiola and l-theanine
For hashimoto supplement with 200mcg selenium, magnesium glyciente, ashwagandha,
02-14-2013, 11:23 PM
02-14-2013, 11:24 PM
burpees is on...
Look to try rhodiola, st johns wart and l-theanine
Potent natural feel good smile stack
02-14-2013, 11:27 PM
I like a high dose of theanine at 600-800mg
Suntheanine to be exact and 500mg 3% 1% rhodiola try up to 1 gram
02-14-2013, 11:28 PM
PP Sustain Alpha and Endoamp Max helped alot too bad it's discontinued
I like Transmax and Alpha-GPC too
02-14-2013, 11:31 PM
02-14-2013, 11:33 PM
02-15-2013, 03:50 AM
Ashwaghanda is pretty decent I take it all the time. What St. Johns have you tried? The perika kind always worked best for me. Probably going to take a handful of supps to get any relief and even then don't expect miracles. Really takes a change in your patterns of thought to truly overcome it.
02-15-2013, 07:14 AM
I second St Johns Wort as it seems to have some backing behind it.
Have you been tested for thyriod etc. blood tests???
Stay in touch with your doctors and or therapists. We don't always recognize signs getting worse.
A few years back I slipped pretty far and it was quite hard getting back. I felt it was almost brain chemical or lack thereof almost beginning to compound.
Be careful with that stuff, and get checked and talk to professionals regularly.
02-15-2013, 03:34 PM
02-16-2013, 03:34 AM
I've never thought of it in this capacity, but our LiGHts Out has both 5-HTP and L-Dopa in one product.
I'll look into it further, and get back with you - bulks are probably cheaper, although Nutra did have it for $16.87 not long ago.
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02-16-2013, 03:49 AM
Try somatomax from hi-tech pharmaceuticals.... It increases dopamine levels and puts you to sleep! You will feel AMAZING On it. I take it for the same reasons. I'm deployed right now and it helps with a lot of stress! Try it. You won't e disappointed!
02-16-2013, 11:27 PM
02-18-2013, 12:21 AM
I use 5htp religiously to keep my chronic depression away. Stack looks a little like this..
100 mg 5htp
400 micrograms of methylfolate
5,000-15,000 micrograms of methylcobalamin
I take all of these in the morning, including the 5htp, on an empty stomach. After my morning meal, I take 200 mg ubiquinol, 10 mg PQQ, 2 grams of fish oil, and occasionally a multi.
Most of the herbs listed here are better for an anxiety component but I could never get stable results for depression either due to not being able to find the right dose, or my brain chemistry simply adapting somehow.
03-16-2013, 02:07 PM
Do you take a anti depressant? Or do you just take the items you listed?
I have bad seasonal depression. Certin times of year for some reason hit me like a brick.
Do you have any other self help things you do?
03-17-2013, 01:57 PM
A light box or even just sitting in front of a full spectrum light bulb first thing in the morning might also help.
03-17-2013, 08:16 PM
I hope you are not taking both, because they counteract each other. Dopamine is down-regulated by Serotonin. Serotonin regulates into Melatonin. If you are depressed take something that increases Serotonin. Dopamine will not decrease depression based on low serotonin.
Use 5-HTP without Sam-E and be careful with your Vitamin B-6 levels.
03-18-2013, 05:57 AM
03-18-2013, 03:57 PM
Getting them done soon. I am in the process of switching doctors. I want to know whats really going on. Insted of here take these pills if they dont work call me.
03-18-2013, 03:59 PM
Joestyles...... if I quit the anti depressants what would you suggest? Also what two should we not be taking together?
03-18-2013, 04:00 PM
The sun light helps so much. I try to tan but not to often. Since there is a cancer issue with that.
03-18-2013, 05:08 PM
You should not take Sam-E/B-6 and 5HTP together. You need to space out their dosages in order for them to function properly. Say the 5-HTP at night before dinner and the SAM-E/B-6 before breakfast. They are opposing systems in the brain, and taking them together really does nothing for you honestly.
03-18-2013, 05:19 PM
Yes I know about the tapering of dose when you come off. And I agree. That is why I want to get off of them. And find out what the real issue is. It could be many things. This is why I decided to go ahead with a new doctor and blood work.
03-18-2013, 05:20 PM
03-18-2013, 05:20 PM
Yes I do think 5-HTP and the Sam-E would help you, but only if your diet is in order.
03-18-2013, 05:47 PM
03-18-2013, 09:05 PM
03-18-2013, 09:36 PM
They are perfectly ok.
I have been on prescribed SSRIs for 7,8 times in the last 8 years.
THEY HAVE HELPED ME VERY MUCH!
I have never had any side effects or problems,except for some skin itching the last time on Lexapro.
I haven`t ever had any sexual dysfunction on them or any similar bull**** lie that keeps getting passed around about SSRIs.
In fact,my libido was normal and slightly better.
p.s. you sir are very very very much a complete idiot.
03-19-2013, 12:27 PM
I think its great that they work for you. But for me. I hsve had many side effects from them. Headaches, weight gain, and not the good kind of weightgain. To stomach issues. So they are not sunshine for everyone.
03-19-2013, 08:51 PM
03-20-2013, 12:39 AM
03-20-2013, 07:28 AM
No lol... I am not scared of getting sick. I just live up north where we only get 80 days of sun on average a year. I just wish there was a natural way to get more sun in the winter. I still tan but not everyday.
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