SAM-E or 5-htp for moderate depression?

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  1. Yes I know about the tapering of dose when you come off. And I agree. That is why I want to get off of them. And find out what the real issue is. It could be many things. This is why I decided to go ahead with a new doctor and blood work.


  2. Thanks for the natural advice. Do you think they will help me get off of the ssri's
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  3. Yes I do think 5-HTP and the Sam-E would help you, but only if your diet is in order.

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedfords View Post
    Yes I know about the tapering of dose when you come off. And I agree. That is why I want to get off of them. And find out what the real issue is. It could be many things. This is why I decided to go ahead with a new doctor and blood work.
    The SSRI could be the problem itself. My advice get off of them, no one really knows the full extent of the dangers of them, and the risk reward ratio is not strong enough IMO to be worth using them.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by twistedfords View Post
    The sun light helps so much. I try to tan but not to often. Since there is a cancer issue with that.
    Agreed. You just have to be in brighter light or get some to the pineal gland (in the head) to help release natural melatonin etc.
    You only need to get 10-15 minutes on some parts of the skin also, to get some good natural vit D.

  5. What type of diet is best for rhe 5 htp and sam-e

  6. Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    SSRI's are dangerous things. Far more dangerous than steroids IMO.



    They are perfectly ok.

    I have been on prescribed SSRIs for 7,8 times in the last 8 years.

    THEY HAVE HELPED ME VERY MUCH!

    I have never had any side effects or problems,except for some skin itching the last time on Lexapro.

    I haven`t ever had any sexual dysfunction on them or any similar bull**** lie that keeps getting passed around about SSRIs.

    In fact,my libido was normal and slightly better.



    p.s. you sir are very very very much a complete idiot.

  7. I think its great that they work for you. But for me. I hsve had many side effects from them. Headaches, weight gain, and not the good kind of weightgain. To stomach issues. So they are not sunshine for everyone.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by twistedfords View Post
    The sun light helps so much. I try to tan but not to often. Since there is a cancer issue with that.
    Seems like your what u call it when your fearful of getting sick ??

    Your caution about getting to much sun light is a issue man,

  9. Sam-e works good for mild depression

  10. No lol... I am not scared of getting sick. I just live up north where we only get 80 days of sun on average a year. I just wish there was a natural way to get more sun in the winter. I still tan but not everyday.
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  11. Well, I might not over think it too much, or let the sunlight issue get you down. That is defeating the purpose. Winter for many people in the northern hem find them with less really bright sunlight, but you still get natural sunlight on overcast days too, so don't discount them.

  12. How much is a dose per day for 5 htp

  13. Quote Originally Posted by twistedfords View Post
    How much is a dose per day for 5 htp
    100mg. It seems to work better for me if I take it in the morning on an empty stomach. I think that might tip the conversion pathway in the favor of more serotonin rather than melatonin...but just my hypothesis.

  14. So dont split the dose like the bottle says? Take all 100mg at once?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    100mg. It seems to work better for me if I take it in the morning on an empty stomach. I think that might tip the conversion pathway in the favor of more serotonin rather than melatonin...but just my hypothesis.
    I got my bottle of Healthy Origins 5-HTP in the mail.

    I`m gonna start it one of these days,when my depression goes worse.

    Did it give you any nausea?



    I got some Sam-e too but I`m sceptical about using it now since I`ve got anxiety too.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I got my bottle of Healthy Origins 5-HTP in the mail.

    I`m gonna start it one of these days,when my depression goes worse.

    Did it give you any nausea?

    I got some Sam-e too but I`m sceptical about using it now since I`ve got anxiety too.


    No nausea sides at all. I've tried SAMe and it was nice, but not as reliable for me as 5-htp..plus its so expensive. Definitely add a little p5p and folate to help the 5htp convert to serotonin. If you're truly undermethylating, TMG will help too.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by miket56 View Post
    Although I consider depression or anxiety as a weakness , doctors do not and will help you. When one is weak, seek out the help of the strong. It's all in your head btw
    Wtf?

    You`re even more retarded than I thought was possible?

    I`ve used SSRIs many times.They are perfectly fine.


    I don`t understand why you are posting here at all.

    Did you have problems with depression at all?
    How can you give advice about something you have never experienced or medication you have never ever used?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    No nausea sides at all. I've tried SAMe and it was nice, but not as reliable for me as 5-htp..plus its so expensive. Definitely add a little p5p and folate to help the 5htp convert to serotonin. If you're truly undermethylating, TMG will help too.
    I`ll definitely give it a go(5-htp),maybe tomorrow morning.

    I have a B-complex too.

    Thanks for the advice!


    btw how long do you take it straight(every day)?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by miket56 View Post
    No I don't because I haven't let my mind beat me down. You have proved to be a quitter, fearing your own feelings to the point you need a med. My advice is stop lifting and using hormonal products, people like you are unstable and shouldn't be touching products that can affect your already poor mental health. People like you harm the supplement industry because you can't handle your own feelings, let alone a supplement.
    I have never used hormones douche bag,that`s where you`re wrong.

  20. The whole point of the thread is to help people.

    Yes sometimes life kicks your ass. But you still get up. I agree their. But people can not help their genetics, or environment which effectively changes things.

    I was a national wrestler for many years. In a sport that takes total discipline, heart , and mind. So dont rag on someone for being a bigger person. And trying to find help for a medical or mental issue they may have.

  21. Ssri's do work for some and not for others. But that is due to bad doctors and not diagnosing the right issue. I have not found why my body changed. But due to lack of real help in the medical field. That is why I got new insurance and a new doctor that cares about helping and not putting more money in his pocket.

  22. It takes a big person to say yes I have a peoblem and I want to fix it. That is a strong mind in my book.

  23. Your from pa? And its being recorded. While at work

  24. Well I am older then you but I am from erie. So we always battled at states lol... 145 /152

  25. I like them both. However SAM-e is a hit or miss. 5-HTP, Glycine, Valerian Root will do you well.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Wtf?

    You`re even more retarded than I thought was possible?

    I`ve used SSRIs many times.They are perfectly fine.


    I don`t understand why you are posting here at all.

    Did you have problems with depression at all?
    How can you give advice about something you have never experienced or medication you have never ever used?

    Why exactly did you neg me then? SSRI's can work for a few people, but they have known issues and side-effects like every drug. I know because I have PTSD and was on Prozac for 10 months it made the situation even worse. I was having Hallucinations and constant migraines. Finding a solution with SSRI is preferable, and even the Military is starting to push dietary solutions to the problem.


    How about you actually prove your point and keep the Ad-Homs to yourself?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    Why exactly did you neg me then? SSRI's can work for a few people, but they have known issues and side-effects like every drug. I know because I have PTSD and was on Prozac for 10 months it made the situation even worse. I was having Hallucinations and constant migraines. Finding a solution with SSRI is preferable, and even the Military is starting to push dietary solutions to the problem.


    How about you actually prove your point and keep the Ad-Homs to yourself?
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.
    That's you, you are not everyone else. Not everyone else is you. Either way I'm not investing time in this site if it has people like you, ignorant and ego driven douchebags belong on BB. You seem lost.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.
    You should stay off them, your life wasn't worth saving oxygen thief.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    You should stay off them, your life wasn't worth saving oxygen thief.
    Lol true true,I don`t contest that!

    I`m a worthless piece of ****!


    Except for pleasing your momma,I haven`t got a purpose in life!
  

  
 

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