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    Well, I might not over think it too much, or let the sunlight issue get you down. That is defeating the purpose. Winter for many people in the northern hem find them with less really bright sunlight, but you still get natural sunlight on overcast days too, so don't discount them.

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    How much is a dose per day for 5 htp
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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedfords View Post
    How much is a dose per day for 5 htp
    100mg. It seems to work better for me if I take it in the morning on an empty stomach. I think that might tip the conversion pathway in the favor of more serotonin rather than melatonin...but just my hypothesis.
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    So dont split the dose like the bottle says? Take all 100mg at once?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    100mg. It seems to work better for me if I take it in the morning on an empty stomach. I think that might tip the conversion pathway in the favor of more serotonin rather than melatonin...but just my hypothesis.
    I got my bottle of Healthy Origins 5-HTP in the mail.

    I`m gonna start it one of these days,when my depression goes worse.

    Did it give you any nausea?



    I got some Sam-e too but I`m sceptical about using it now since I`ve got anxiety too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I got my bottle of Healthy Origins 5-HTP in the mail.

    I`m gonna start it one of these days,when my depression goes worse.

    Did it give you any nausea?

    I got some Sam-e too but I`m sceptical about using it now since I`ve got anxiety too.


    No nausea sides at all. I've tried SAMe and it was nice, but not as reliable for me as 5-htp..plus its so expensive. Definitely add a little p5p and folate to help the 5htp convert to serotonin. If you're truly undermethylating, TMG will help too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miket56 View Post
    Although I consider depression or anxiety as a weakness , doctors do not and will help you. When one is weak, seek out the help of the strong. It's all in your head btw
    Wtf?

    You`re even more retarded than I thought was possible?

    I`ve used SSRIs many times.They are perfectly fine.


    I don`t understand why you are posting here at all.

    Did you have problems with depression at all?
    How can you give advice about something you have never experienced or medication you have never ever used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    No nausea sides at all. I've tried SAMe and it was nice, but not as reliable for me as 5-htp..plus its so expensive. Definitely add a little p5p and folate to help the 5htp convert to serotonin. If you're truly undermethylating, TMG will help too.
    I`ll definitely give it a go(5-htp),maybe tomorrow morning.

    I have a B-complex too.

    Thanks for the advice!


    btw how long do you take it straight(every day)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miket56 View Post
    No I don't because I haven't let my mind beat me down. You have proved to be a quitter, fearing your own feelings to the point you need a med. My advice is stop lifting and using hormonal products, people like you are unstable and shouldn't be touching products that can affect your already poor mental health. People like you harm the supplement industry because you can't handle your own feelings, let alone a supplement.
    I have never used hormones douche bag,that`s where you`re wrong.
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    The whole point of the thread is to help people.

    Yes sometimes life kicks your ass. But you still get up. I agree their. But people can not help their genetics, or environment which effectively changes things.

    I was a national wrestler for many years. In a sport that takes total discipline, heart , and mind. So dont rag on someone for being a bigger person. And trying to find help for a medical or mental issue they may have.
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    Ssri's do work for some and not for others. But that is due to bad doctors and not diagnosing the right issue. I have not found why my body changed. But due to lack of real help in the medical field. That is why I got new insurance and a new doctor that cares about helping and not putting more money in his pocket.
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    It takes a big person to say yes I have a peoblem and I want to fix it. That is a strong mind in my book.
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    Your from pa? And its being recorded. While at work
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    Well I am older then you but I am from erie. So we always battled at states lol... 145 /152
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    I like them both. However SAM-e is a hit or miss. 5-HTP, Glycine, Valerian Root will do you well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Wtf?

    You`re even more retarded than I thought was possible?

    I`ve used SSRIs many times.They are perfectly fine.


    I don`t understand why you are posting here at all.

    Did you have problems with depression at all?
    How can you give advice about something you have never experienced or medication you have never ever used?

    Why exactly did you neg me then? SSRI's can work for a few people, but they have known issues and side-effects like every drug. I know because I have PTSD and was on Prozac for 10 months it made the situation even worse. I was having Hallucinations and constant migraines. Finding a solution with SSRI is preferable, and even the Military is starting to push dietary solutions to the problem.


    How about you actually prove your point and keep the Ad-Homs to yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    Why exactly did you neg me then? SSRI's can work for a few people, but they have known issues and side-effects like every drug. I know because I have PTSD and was on Prozac for 10 months it made the situation even worse. I was having Hallucinations and constant migraines. Finding a solution with SSRI is preferable, and even the Military is starting to push dietary solutions to the problem.


    How about you actually prove your point and keep the Ad-Homs to yourself?
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.
    That's you, you are not everyone else. Not everyone else is you. Either way I'm not investing time in this site if it has people like you, ignorant and ego driven douchebags belong on BB. You seem lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    SSRIs rock ass,they saved my life.
    You should stay off them, your life wasn't worth saving oxygen thief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    You should stay off them, your life wasn't worth saving oxygen thief.
    Lol true true,I don`t contest that!

    I`m a worthless piece of ****!


    Except for pleasing your momma,I haven`t got a purpose in life!
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    I like to mix SSRI's and Bath Salts when I party. Like a real life Resident Evil situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    Why exactly did you neg me then? SSRI's can work for a few people, but they have known issues and side-effects like every drug. I know because I have PTSD and was on Prozac for 10 months it made the situation even worse. I was having Hallucinations and constant migraines.
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeStyles View Post
    That's you, you are not everyone else. Not everyone else is you.

    Same stands here.

    That's you, you are not everyone else. Not everyone else is you.

    The fact that you were having hallucinations on SSRIs points to the fact that you are very prone to psychosis.Very prone.

    Majority of healthy people would not under any circumstance develop this kind of side effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklac View Post
    I like to mix SSRI's and Bath Salts when I party. Like a real life Resident Evil situation.
    Definitely.

    SSRIs will have you tripping balls.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Same stands here.

    That's you, you are not everyone else. Not everyone else is you.

    The fact that you were having hallucinations on SSRIs points to the fact that you are very prone to psychosis.Very prone.

    Majority of healthy people would not under any circumstance develop this kind of side effect.
    I'm prone to Psychosis now eh? I would say that you are likely already there, maybe a borderline Psychopath.
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    I started taking 5-htp today,25 mg only,to see how it will treat me.

    I`ve been drinking St.John`s Worth tea for some time now,and it does work,but since it raises not only serotonin but also dopamine and epinephrine,it has made me a little emotional and very anxious(because of the epinephrine).

    I also have l-dopa but I think there is no need to add that at the moment.

    The sunny weather I`m having is helping also I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I started taking 5-htp today,25 mg only,to see how it will treat me.

    I`ve been drinking St.John`s Worth tea for some time now,and it does work,but since it raises not only serotonin but also dopamine and epinephrine,it has made me a little emotional and very anxious(because of the epinephrine).

    I also have l-dopa but I think there is no need to add that at the moment.

    The sunny weather I`m having is helping also I believe.
    I get the same effect from SJW. It also gives me pretty terrible insomnia. 5HTP has been a blessing as it improves my mood and allows me to sleep..though I take it in the morning with some p5p.
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    I would highly recommend reading the Mood Cure by Julia Ross. She uses amino acid therapy for all sorts of mood disorders. I currently take 1000mg tyrosine in the AM and 100mg 5-htp in the PM. If you are uping your seratonin with 5-htp, also looking to supplementing with tyrosine in the morning to balance the dopamine.
  

  
 

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