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    Anyone stacking nootropics with preworkouts?


    I know someone is going to say make my life easier and try focus xt but right now im waiting for Appnuts Uncut. Im on rpm(until Uncut hits the markets), drive, creatine, beta alanine and alcar daily and im thinking about adding some aniracetam and choline. What type of results have you seen during your workouts if you are on a similar regiment?

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    What about amino acids or BCAAs? They do act as nuerotransmitters and have some energizing effect.

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    Re: Anyone stacking nootropics with preworkouts?


    What are you looking for? More energy? Focus? Etc?

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    Re: Anyone stacking nootropics with preworkouts?


    Either way you can add some more chocamine. I am a big fan of it. Also tyramine, GPLC, hordenine, evodiamine, sulbutiamine would all make good additions.

    I would start with adding chocamime and GPLC. Should add a nice mental boost to the pre workout you already hve

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    Stim free focus xt! Yay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    What are you looking for? More energy? Focus? Etc?

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    Im really looking for the memory/recall and quick thinking/sharp tongue effects. I want to be more conversational with verbal fluency.
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    OK I see where you're goin.

    Still gonna say Focus XT. The original Black Cats was closer to this - still out there if you look around for 15-20 bucks.
    Chaotic Labz makes Chaotic Rage which has 1-2 ingredients not quite kosher. Unreasonably expensive though.

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    You can add stim-free Focus XT to just about anything, including preworkouts. I would not use racetams preworkout really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Either way you can add some more chocamine. I am a big fan of it. Also tyramine, GPLC, hordenine, evodiamine, sulbutiamine would all make good additions.

    I would start with adding chocamime and GPLC. Should add a nice mental boost to the pre workout you already hve

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    I like chocamine as well. I'm not big on GPLC though as the data shows that its NO boosting effect is mediated by PLCAR. With PLCAR being cheaper and providing more PLCAR gram for gram (obviously), GPLC/Sigma Tau kinda take a backseat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    What about using noo pept coop?

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    I have noopept. But i would rather use something that is a little more tested since i am stacking it with other substances.
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    Demiurge + Focus-XT + Ephedrine + 2g ALCAR = win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Demiurge + Focus-XT + Ephedrine + 2g ALCAR = win.
    How much ALCAR is already in FocusXT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    How much ALCAR is already in FocusXT?

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    Secret , I would usually just add 1g of ALCAR...but annecdotally, I have felt even more focus with 2g ONCE IN A WHILE...I never use it more than once or twice per week...I rather use my Demiurge for classes/tests/study sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Demiurge + Focus-XT + Ephedrine + 2g ALCAR = win.
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    I don't see the downside of running nootropics with a preworkout. Just listen to your body, if it's too much stimulation, than back off a little. I know some preworkouts have nootropics or things that mimic nootropic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    Secret , I would usually just add 1g of ALCAR...but annecdotally, I have felt even more focus with 2g ONCE IN A WHILE...I never use it more than once or twice per week...I rather use my Demiurge for classes/tests/study sessions.
    Yeah, I take 2g of ALCAR in the morning anyways, so wondering if I added FocusXT to it, would it be too much ALCAR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    What about using noo pept coop?

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    Absolutely no point preworkout, unless you have to memorize all your lifting numbers for next workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallasboy22 View Post
    Yeah, I take 2g of ALCAR in the morning anyways, so wondering if I added FocusXT to it, would it be too much ALCAR?

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    Nope, I do it all the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Absolutely no point preworkout, unless you have to memorize all your lifting numbers for next workout
    Will use prior to law class.

    Timing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I like chocamine as well. I'm not big on GPLC though as the data shows that its NO boosting effect is mediated by PLCAR. With PLCAR being cheaper and providing more PLCAR gram for gram (obviously), GPLC/Sigma Tau kinda take a backseat.
    I know SNS still has some PLCAR left do you trust NP bulk from when I can't get it from SNS anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez View Post
    Im really looking for the memory/recall and quick thinking/sharp tongue effects. I want to be more conversational with verbal fluency.
    I don't see the point of wanting to enhance memory/recall and quick thinking while at the gym, hell we have log books for that. As far as a nootropic stack for outside of the gym I'd suggest this:
    Aniracetam 750mg
    Alpha-GPC 300mg
    PQQ 10mg
    Fish Oil 1000mg
    Coffee if you're not stim sensitive.

    Take all supps 2-3 times per day depending on what you need to accomplish.
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    I meant memory in general. I wanted to know if adding aniracetam would interact adversely with any of the ingredients from my pwos.
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    demiurge plus any of the three craze/rpm/phenadrine are great for preworkout focus in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    I don't see the point of wanting to enhance memory/recall and quick thinking while at the gym, hell we have log books for that. As far as a nootropic stack for outside of the gym I'd suggest this:
    Aniracetam 750mg
    Alpha-GPC 300mg
    PQQ 10mg
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    Coffee if you're not stim sensitive.

    Take all supps 2-3 times per day depending on what you need to accomplish.
    Do you have stock in PQQ lmao! Every nootropic thread is being bumped with your PQQ endorsement. You either have vested interests OR the stuff is AMAZING!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhrr View Post
    I know SNS still has some PLCAR left do you trust NP bulk from when I can't get it from SNS anymore.
    I trust NP very much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Do you have stock in PQQ lmao! Every nootropic thread is being bumped with your PQQ endorsement. You either have vested interests OR the stuff is AMAZING!!!

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    It may do something in the case of metabolic dysfunction or the truly elderly, but suggesting it for every damn purpose to your average user is getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Will use prior to law class.

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    Tough to say. Anecdotally, I notice effects for hours, but the biological halflife is way low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Tough to say. Anecdotally, I notice effects for hours, but the biological halflife is way low.
    As in how long prior to my class or what I'm doing that requires focus do I take no pept

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    As in how long prior to my class or what I'm doing that requires focus do I take no pept-Chris EBF RepMobile App
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluchez View Post
    Im really looking for the memory/recall and quick thinking/sharp tongue effects. I want to be more conversational with verbal fluency.
    300 mg of sulbutiamine has always worked pretty well for me on increasing short-term memory recall and verbal skills- the effects of nootropics can be variable from person to person because of individual differences in brain chemistry, so it is hard to gauge if it will help you- when I take sulbutiamine, I can listen to an entire paragraph and repeat it back verbally almost verbatim. Normal circumstances, I can maybe get a sentence or two (getting old); one drawback, the effects wear off after a few doses, at least with me
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    PQQ is interesting; it increases CREB and has some decent anti-oxidant characteristics, and there are data backing some effects on memory and cognition
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms80 View Post
    PQQ is interesting; it increases CREB and has some decent anti-oxidant characteristics, and there are data backing some effects on memory and cognition
    Does PQQ give you the witty mind equivalent to a long night of drinking?
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