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    Quote Originally Posted by r6lift View Post
    thanks chedap, i'd prolly go with your suggestion and see how it goes. Never tried this product before so i'd give it a shot. How was your results/ effects from tta? anyone else used tta before with good results?
    Big fan of TTA. You have the SNS TTA? I personally use TTA for parts of pretty much all my cuts and think it would be a great addition to the 8 week plan you have going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Lots of great suggestions. I'm using alphamine and erase with tta right now and enjoying it
    Jelly have no TTA anymore but I still have my DCP that I will hoard. Will have to use Alphamine and DCP in the future for sure.
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    that's pretty intense by itself.

    I have been using OEP (original) with alpha t2, and green tea with some pretty good results. I took caffeine 200mg and 3mg of yohimbine hcl and had more energy and thermogenic affect than the oep, at2, gt. Everyone is different though. Keep in mind, the ephedrine can cause a false positive on a drug test. IMO I don't think it is worth the hassle, but if you don't get drug tested it is probably your best bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testomonsta View Post
    that's pretty intense by itself.

    I have been using OEP (original) with alpha t2, and green tea with some pretty good results. I took caffeine 200mg and 3mg of yohimbine hcl and had more energy and thermogenic affect than the oep, at2, gt. Everyone is different though. Keep in mind, the ephedrine can cause a false positive on a drug test. IMO I don't think it is worth the hassle, but if you don't get drug tested it is probably your best bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Lots of great suggestions. I'm using alphamine and erase with tta right now and enjoying it
    I am stacking alphamine (1.5 scoops) and erase now and would like to add tta, how and when would you recommend stacking this?
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    I cant wait to try alphamine...I have read a lot of good reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by testomonsta
    I cant wait to try alphamine...I have read a lot of good reviews
    Be ready to gain an addiction!

    A lot of great reviews and logs for alphamine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneD View Post

    I am stacking alphamine (1.5 scoops) and erase now and would like to add tta, how and when would you recommend stacking this?
    If your gonna go with 1g a day... go 1 cap before meal AM and 1 cap before meal PM. You could go up to 1.5g if you wanted but 1g seems to be the sweet spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    If your gonna go with 1g a day... go 1 cap before meal AM and 1 cap before meal PM. You could go up to 1.5g if you wanted but 1g seems to be the sweet spot.
    ^^ this is how I dose
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    Great, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    If your gonna go with 1g a day... go 1 cap before meal AM and 1 cap before meal PM. You could go up to 1.5g if you wanted but 1g seems to be the sweet spot.
    Do you get retain much water with this dose?
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    Of the two you presented:
    1) Ephedra extract is from the leaf its not the active ephrine you're looking for. If it was a coffee, it would be decaf diluted with water. Too low a dose of methylsynephrine to see anything.
    2) Really not much "fat burners" in here or at least not anything good in high enough dosages to grab my attention.
    Both of these contain a lot of stuff to make you "feel great" like youre energized and getting lean while taking shwag. I know what the first one is for sure... its junk.

    I'm seeing a lot of good options thrown out there but here's mine:If you want to go the stim route you can check out Fat Free. Very different composition and syngeristic effects of ursolic acid activated by DHEA by lowering blood insulin levels to preserve lean mass while dieting. Very high in caffeine if that's your thing. I saw the 2nd you mentioned has DMAA in it (which is now banned BTW) but if you can find the original Black Cats (for all of $19 online) its a close match for a better effect.A non-stim nighttime fat burner, which I keep in almost year round just because, is Lipotrophin PM. Combined with Lipo AM is great, too. But the PM is a must.

    I'd give you a review on AppNut's 24 hour fat burner but I haven't started my log yet.... Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post

    Do you get retain much water with this dose?
    No I never did. I know some people experience water retainment but for it the 1g TTA was awesome. Very beneficial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Of the two you presented:
    1) Ephedra extract is from the leaf its not the active ephrine you're looking for. If it was a coffee, it would be decaf diluted with water. Too low a dose of methylsynephrine to see anything.
    2) Really not much "fat burners" in here or at least not anything good in high enough dosages to grab my attention.
    Both of these contain a lot of stuff to make you "feel great" like youre energized and getting lean while taking shwag. I know what the first one is for sure... its junk.

    I'm seeing a lot of good options thrown out there but here's mine:If you want to go the stim route you can check out Fat Free. Very different composition and syngeristic effects of ursolic acid activated by DHEA by lowering blood insulin levels to preserve lean mass while dieting. Very high in caffeine if that's your thing. I saw the 2nd you mentioned has DMAA in it (which is now banned BTW) but if you can find the original Black Cats (for all of $19 online) its a close match for a better effect.A non-stim nighttime fat burner, which I keep in almost year round just because, is Lipotrophin PM. Combined with Lipo AM is great, too. But the PM is a must.

    I'd give you a review on AppNut's 24 hour fat burner but I haven't started my log yet.... Monday.

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    Be interested to see how your log goes boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post

    Be interested to see how your log goes boss.
    I'll get the link to you by the end of the weekend. Just finalizing the details.
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    OS- can u give a ballpark for caffeine and dhea content on fat free?

    How will the dhea work w someone on TRT? Any rebound type effects after stopping use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    OS- can u give a ballpark for caffeine and dhea content on fat free?

    How will the dhea work w someone on TRT? Any rebound type effects after stopping use?
    140-150mg caffeine per cap so at 3x per day you're looking at ~450mg. DHEA I have to get back to you on. I will say its not enough to effect someone already on TRT with DHEA. Levels were designed for optimizing ursolic acid, not hormonal. Still safe for women's use.

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    Re: fat burner stack


    I just got my hands on some old school "NYC stack" biotches!!! (I'm a little excited if you couldn't tell )

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post

    140-150mg caffeine per cap so at 3x per day you're looking at ~450mg. DHEA I have to get back to you on. I will say its not enough to effect someone already on TRT with DHEA. Levels were designed for optimizing ursolic acid, not hormonal. Still safe for women's use.

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    Anyone know where to get some TTA 500?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneD View Post
    Anyone know where to get some TTA 500?
    Try smartpowders.

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    Tta Is no longer available ? I knew it was coming but didn't know when...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Tta Is no longer available ? I knew it was coming but didn't know when...
    Unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Tta Is no longer available ? I knew it was coming but didn't know when...
    Look deeper and deeper haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneD View Post
    Anyone know where to get some TTA 500?
    Just keep looking around. Eventually you'll find some still hanging around.

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    PES reps, you guys know how long the alphamine+vanillean stack would last at nutra? just waiting for my paycheck this weekend before jumping on this. Also, could these two stack together? plannin to use this on weeks 5-8 of my cut. thanks fellas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r6lift View Post
    PES reps, you guys know how long the alphamine+vanillean stack would last at nutra? just waiting for my paycheck this weekend before jumping on this. Also, could these two stack together? plannin to use this on weeks 5-8 of my cut. thanks fellas.
    Considering it just got on Nutra as a combo I imagine it will be on there long enough for you to get it.

    And yes you can stack em. That is why its being sold as a combo on Nutra. Might I add a nice fat burning combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by r6lift View Post
    PES reps, you guys know how long the alphamine+vanillean stack would last at nutra? just waiting for my paycheck this weekend before jumping on this. Also, could these two stack together? plannin to use this on weeks 5-8 of my cut. thanks fellas.
    Should last at least another week (possibly two) at that price so you should be good to go.
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