Protein Shake vs FOOD Source

[Whacked]

For anyone who thinks food sources are superior to protein shakes......

Perhaps they are but my body didn't notice the difference at all.

I got sick of cooking meat and I am not a fan of convenient, canned or processed meats etc

So, for about 3 montsh now, I have been using a mixed veggie-protein-powder source (made of pea protein, hemp, brown rice etc) in place of 3 of my 4 meals' meat sources (which for me was white fish)

I have been doing this for 3+ months and I have not noticed ANY difference in body comp, weight etc

Just sharing

Before anyone asks, I continued to eat the other macros alongside the veggie-based protein shake (nuts, vegetables, etc)

[Dewey99]

You can get by on shakes for sure. Whole food is usually cheaper and more interesting than plain shakes. A big difference for me is the satiety that I get from whole food as opposed to shakes. If I eat 40 grams of chicken I am full for much longer than I am from 40 grams of protein shake. Either way, people should do whatever works best for them. There is no one right answer for everybody.

[halfhuman]

I do the same thing. Actually for years now. On weekdays my main meal is dinner which is solid food. But most of day I add lots of foods in a blender. No complaints or difference from always eating solid food.

Btw how u blend brown rice? Lol

[Jiigzz]

While you may not have any whole food sources; meat is a high source of Iron and b12, something which vegetarian based diets are often low in. While body comp and weight have not been affected (although this is in part due to overall calorie intake as opposed to the function of protein in of itself) it doesn't mean that certain micronutrient levels will not drop over time. Iron plays a HUGE role in the proper functioning of the cardiorespiratory system.

And non-haem iron (from plants) is not as well absorbed as haem iron from animal origin. For this reasons, I would not recommend swapping meat for protein shakes.

[liftandeat]

Gotta be careful with protein shakes. You prolly have protein in your urine and don't even know it. All that liquid protein is bad for your kidneys. I try to only drink protein shakes after workouts or before bed. I say this because I've had this problem before. Nothing beats real food

[halfhuman]

While you may not have any whole food sources; meat is a high source of Iron and b12, something which vegetarian based diets are often low in. While body comp and weight have not been affected (although this is in part due to overall calorie intake as opposed to the function of protein in of itself) it doesn't mean that certain micronutrient levels will not drop over time. Iron plays a HUGE role in the proper functioning of the cardiorespiratory system.

And non-haem iron (from plants) is not as well absorbed as haem iron from animal origin. For this reasons, I would not recommend swapping meat for protein shakes.

Good info. I never swap shakes for meat. Meat is always in my diet.

[bolt10]

Gotta be careful with protein shakes. You prolly have protein in your urine and don't even know it. All that liquid protein is bad for your kidneys. I try to only drink protein shakes after workouts or before bed. I say this because I've had this problem before. Nothing beats real food

You got any evidence or studies to back this up? Post workout and before bed aren't some special protein times either.


I appreciate the feedback and know Whacked keeps things pretty real. The only issue I would have with it is making sure you get proper amounts of vitamins and minerals throughout the diet regardless of if your protein intake is from "shakes" or "real" food. Based on how regimented you are I assume these issues are accounted for.

[liftandeat]

You got any evidence or studies to back this up? Post workout and before bed aren't some special protein times either.

I appreciate the feedback and know Whacked keeps things pretty real. The only issue I would have with it is making sure you get proper amounts of vitamins and minerals throughout the diet regardless of if your protein intake is from "shakes" or "real" food. Based on how regimented you are I assume these issues are accounted for.

Post workout is when protein is the most important. Before bed casein shake isn't a necessity but its good to have one. Real food is always better than synthesized protein it's common sense. The only reason for whey protein powder is for post workout. Because it absorbs much quicker than real food. Which makes it perfect for your post workout because after your workout you have a 15 min anabolic window so you want to absorb as much protein as possible at that time. Otherwise if you drink shakes for most of your protein intake your just hurting your kidneys and peeing out most of the protein. Which is why REAL FOOD IS ALWAYS BETTER. Just google it.

[nebraskaheat]

I smell broscience...

[bolt10]

Post workout is when protein is the most important. Before bed casein shake isn't a necessity but its good to have one. Real food is always better than synthesized protein it's common sense. The only reason for whey protein powder is for post workout. Because it absorbs much quicker than real food. Which makes it perfect for your post workout because after your workout you have a 15 min anabolic window so you want to absorb as much protein as possible at that time. Otherwise if you drink shakes for most of your protein intake your just hurting your kidneys and peeing out most of the protein. Which is why REAL FOOD IS ALWAYS BETTER. Just google it.

Ok I would just suggest more in depth research on the "post workout" window or whatever you want to call it. I don't wish to argue either about "real".

Sorry Whacked.

[Dewey99]

I once lost all my gains because someone broke my Anabolic Window. Took two days to get it fixed. True story....

[liftandeat]

Ok I would just suggest more in depth research on the "post workout" window or whatever you want to call it. I don't wish to argue either about "real".

Sorry Whacked.

Gotta eat to get big. Not drink. But protein shakes are useful for supplementation but don't think you can get away with making protein powder your main source for protein. You'll mess up your kidneys. I say this because I have been through this my doctor found protein in my urine and said if I kept drinking shakes for protein I could permanently mess up my kidneys. I used to drink 3-4 a day. Maybe even more.
I'm just putting in my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.

[Lutztenways]

Post workout is when protein is the most important. Before bed casein shake isn't a necessity but its good to have one. Real food is always better than synthesized protein it's common sense. The only reason for whey protein powder is for post workout. Because it absorbs much quicker than real food. Which makes it perfect for your post workout because after your workout you have a 15 min anabolic window so you want to absorb as much protein as possible at that time. Otherwise if you drink shakes for most of your protein intake your just hurting your kidneys and peeing out most of the protein. Which is why REAL FOOD IS ALWAYS BETTER. Just google it.

Ahahaha oh man. What is this?

Is bread real food? If you answered yes then you should see protein powder as real food too.

Taking a component of a grain, grinding it into dust and then mixing with this or that = taking a component of milk and turning it into dust and mixing with this or that.

That being said...I do totally support whole food protein in meal fashion at all times. And I've done an n=1 experiment of my own which mirrored that of Whacked. I had positive results for what it's worth.

Most importantly, I wish you'd stop weakening my position by spewing antiquated broscience about kidneys and anabolic windows.

[liftandeat]

Ahahaha oh man. What is this?

Is bread real food? If you answered yes then you should see protein powder as real food too.

Taking a component of a grain, grinding it into dust and then mixing with this or that = taking a component of milk and turning it into dust and mixing with this or that.

That being said...I do totally support whole food protein in meal fashion at all times. And I've done an n=1 experiment of my own which mirrored that of Whacked. I had positive results for what it's worth.

Most importantly, I wish you'd stop weakening my position by spewing antiquated broscience about kidneys and anabolic windows.

Alright I'm just trying to help out guys. My doctor who explained to me why to much liquid protein is bad for you especially your kidneys didn't major in "bro science". Just for your information.

[Young Gotti]

i believe in one of layne norton's video blogs he says the only evidence that protein harms the kidneys is when the kidneys are already damaged or when you naturally don't have normal kidney function

i wish i could listen to it now, i believe he said something along the lines of protein being beneficial to rebuilding a part of the kidney or something, can't totally remember at this point

[uvawahoowa]

Alright I'm just trying to help out guys. My doctor who explained to me why to much liquid protein is bad for you especially your kidneys didn't major in "bro science". Just for your information.

Most doctors aren't educated on nutrition, so they will spout ridiculous nonsense like that

[bolt10]

Really didn't mean to start this derail. Shoulda just kept my fingers locked up.

[Dewey99]

Really didn't mean to start this derail. Shoulda just kept my fingers locked up.

It's all good discussion. For every person that posts about something like this, there are hundreds of lurkers that believe the same things and might learn a thing or two.

[liftandeat]

Really didn't mean to start this derail. Shoulda just kept my fingers locked up.

It's what this forum is for lol learning and teaching.

[halfhuman]

Gotta eat to get big. Not drink. But protein shakes are useful for supplementation but don't think you can get away with making protein powder your main source for protein. You'll mess up your kidneys. I say this because I have been through this my doctor found protein in my urine and said if I kept drinking shakes for protein I could permanently mess up my kidneys. I used to drink 3-4 a day. Maybe even more.
I'm just putting in my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.

When u mention protein shakes can u be a bit specific on what they were? How many scoops per shake and for the day?