Best stim free preworkout or preworkout stack?

[Buffspartan]

Trying to go stim free for a while, looking for a good, solid, stim free preworkout, or preworkout stack! Cannot have creatine so that eliminates Ultima, any other suggestions? Was debating stacking Hemavol with Body Octane and Purple Wraath

[mw1]

Ultima or Stim free Focus xt and SNS Agmatine

[Outside Backer]

Hemavol truly is untouchable in the stim free preworkout arena

stim free focus XT is great but the pumps and blowing up stim free is hemavol


when you get back on stims add hemavol to your favorite pre for much much fun

[Sprinterguy4]

App Nut Drive is the best non stim PWO I have ever taken.

[Veritatis]

All great options, consider adding a little demiurge to it to make for a nice little stack.

[bolt10]

Trying to go stim free for a while, looking for a good, solid, stim free preworkout, or preworkout stack! Cannot have creatine so that eliminates Ultima, any other suggestions? Was debating stacking Hemavol with Body Octane and Purple Wraath

Any reason for no creatine? And what exactly do you want out of it?

Regardless my favorite stim free and creatine free pre-workouts are Body Octane, Hemavol, and Protocol unless I am just making something out of bulk powders/pills. So seems like you have a good start with what you are looking at.

[Distilled Water]

When I'm off of Jack3d Micro, this is my go to mix...

1-2 scoops Hemovol
5gr Creatine mono
1/4t salt

[R1balla]

everybody likes something different

Stim - (energy) - Superpump Max + Beta Alanine + Agmatine + BCAAs

Non Stim - Hemavol is the best IMO hands down


you can make your own non stim with creatine, aminos, agmatine, bcaas...etc

[Luke_PNI]

For stim free i would say hemavol was pretty sweet ha !

[Airborne42]

Stim free focus xt + swoll-n

[PuZo]

Trying to go stim free for a while, looking for a good, solid, stim free preworkout, or preworkout stack! Cannot have creatine so that eliminates Ultima, any other suggestions? Was debating stacking Hemavol with Body Octane and Purple Wraath

That sounds mighty powerful but amazing nevertheless.

[uforce]

That sounds mighty powerful but amazing nevertheless.

agreed. i think hemavol needs to be in there somewhere. you could also look at compete. just finished a tub of the orange. got a fruit punch in the stash, and ordered a lemon in the sale. i like adding 2-4g of cit mal to compete.

[vicesoldier]

I love Protocol desert punch mixed with Hemavol watermelon freaking delicious

[thedarce]

I love Protocol desert punch mixed with Hemavol watermelon freaking delicious

going to do something similar when the bjj world champions get close
Protocol + Compete. should be great.

[hossjob]

Make your own.

BCAA or EAA
Creatine
Beta Alanine
Citrulline
Carb Powder

[VaughnTrue]

Preworkout: 1 scoop HemaVol + 1 scoop Compete
Intraworkout: 1 scoop Compete

winner winner chicken dinner. This combo CAN'T be touched.

[Buffspartan]

Make your own.

BCAA or EAA
Creatine
Beta Alanine
Citrulline
Carb Powder

Am I better off using power carb/karbolyn/karbolic for a carb or just straight dextrose?

[rob112]

Pump-Bol was awesome. Hemavol is still the awesome.

Any of you guys try Opus?

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[hossjob]

Am I better off using power carb/karbolyn/karbolic for a carb or just straight dextrose?

Great question. I HATE dextrose. Never did like how it made me feel. I actually LOVE Karbolyn from AAEFX. I love Chain'd Reaction by ALR too, it's hydrolyzed brown rice solids witha bit of MCTs in it. I've actualy been doing Chain'd Reaction pre and Karbolyn post. I don't know off the top of my head what carb source is in Karbolic.

[Buffspartan]

Great question. I HATE dextrose. Never did like how it made me feel. I actually LOVE Karbolyn from AAEFX. I love Chain'd Reaction by ALR too, it's hydrolyzed brown rice solids witha bit of MCTs in it. I've actualy been doing Chain'd Reaction pre and Karbolyn post. I don't know off the top of my head what carb source is in Karbolic.

Power carb was my favorite, but Karbolyn was cheaper so I got that. Karbolic has a bunch of other ingredients to but tastes like crap and doesn't mix at all. It also turns my preworkout orange for some reason and is weirdly sweet even though it's unflavored. I might just go back to Karbolyn unless you recommend Chain'd over that