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  1.  12-28-2012  08:08 PM
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    Question Alphamine + Intermidiate + college football work outs


    Due to personal reasons I don't want to share my college team I play for, BUT BELIEVE ME!! They are difficult.

    First, we lift weights with 2 other partners. Our strength and conditioning coach focuses on particular parts of our body according to days

    Example:

    Monday: Bench
    Tuesday: Hang cleans
    Wednesday: No lift but HIIT type workout
    Thursday: Incline
    Friday Squats

    Once we are done with our daily body group, we then do 6 total circuits immediately after; each with different workouts involving that particulate muscle group we did for the day.

    We workout at 3 PM and then do an agility HIIT type work out after around 4 PM

    I want to do a cutting phase and start taking Alphamine while doing the Intermidiate Fasting diet with my workout to cut down some unwanted fat (290 Lbs 31% body fat) but maintain my muscle mass

    I have a few of questions regarding my daily routine...

    1. What time should I take the Alphamine according to my daily schedule?
    2. What time should my fasting diet time frame be to work around my workout schedule?
    3. Can I eat a meal with BCAA or Protien in the morning or no meal til after workouts?

    I am new to this form and I want to start off the offseason right and get my body in shape for next years season!! Any advice would be great!!

    Thanks J Lew



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    Originally Posted by Jlew98 View Post
    I have a few of questions regarding my daily routine...

    1. What time should I take the Alphamine according to my daily schedule?
    2. What time should my fasting diet time frame be to work around my workout schedule?
    3. Can I eat a meal with BCAA or Protien in the morning or no meal til after workouts?
    1. for alphamine you can dose however you want. I did 1 scoop 3 times a day 4 hours apart with one dose being for pre-workout. Some do 2 scoops in the morning then another later in the day so really its up to you.

    2. Many people break their fast post workout. But if you wake up early and get done with ur workout around 5 you could break your fast with a pre-workout meal. Many people do a 16/8 fast window. But its really up to you if you want a pre-workout meal or not.

    3. If your fasting just take 10 grams BCAA with your alphamine in the morning. The alphamine will supress your appetite also. Many people fall into IF because of the appetite suppression from Alphamine. Keep taking 10 gram BCAA about every 2-3 hours until you break your fast.

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    First, what is a 16/8?

    Secondly, since I have class from 9am to 12am Monday/Wednesday/Friday, and Tuesday/Thursday from 9:30am to 11am then 12:30am - 1:20am. What times should I eat my pre workout meal? I wake up at 8 every morning (Remember my weight lifting/running is from at 3pm to 5pm)

    Lastly, I want to take the Alphamine before my workout so how soon should I use it prior to 3 so my work outs are %120 and boosted?

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    Originally Posted by Jlew98 View Post
    First, what is a 16/8?

    Secondly, since I have class from 9am to 12am Monday/Wednesday/Friday, and Tuesday/Thursday from 9:30am to 11am then 12:30am - 1:20am. What times should I eat my pre workout meal? I wake up at 8 every morning (Remember my weight lifting/running is from at 3pm to 5pm)

    Lastly, I want to take the Alphamine before my workout so how soon should I use it prior to 3 so my work outs are %120 and boosted?
    16/8 is: 16 hour fasting window which is when you take ur BCAA and the 8hour window is when you eat.

    If you want take ur pre workout meal 45-hour, then take ur alphamine.

    Take alphamine 30-45 min pre workout. So if u workout at 3. Take at 2:15-2:30.

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    This is a schedule I have came up with cording to my work outs

    Monday/Wednesday/Friday

    8:30 wake up
    9:00 1 scoop Alpha-mine/Multivitamin/BCAA
    11:30 BCAA
    12:00 pre work out meal, with Omega 3
    2:30 1 scoop Alpha-mine
    3:00 Workout*
    5:30 Biggest meal of day
    7:00 1 scoop Alpha-mine
    8:00 last meal with protein shake

    Tuesday/Thursday is similar but same idea

    Does this sound right?





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    Originally Posted by Jlew98 View Post
    This is a schedule I have came up with cording to my work outs

    Monday/Wednesday/Friday

    8:30 wake up
    9:00 1 scoop Alpha-mine/Multivitamin/BCAA
    11:30 BCAA
    12:00 pre work out meal, with Omega 3
    2:30 1 scoop Alpha-mine
    3:00 Workout*
    5:30 Biggest meal of day
    7:00 1 scoop Alpha-mine
    8:00 last meal with protein shake

    Tuesday/Thursday is similar but same idea

    Does this sound right?

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    Sounds good to me. Hope it works out for ya. Alphamine is the $h!t and people have seen way good results with IF while taking it.

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    Just watchout taking it that late depending on when you sleep. If the stim hits you hard it may make falling asleep difficult. Otherwise looks solid.

    If you do need to avoid that late dose you could to 1.5 servings in the morning and before workout IMO.

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    Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Just watchout taking it that late depending on when you sleep. If the stim hits you hard it may make falling asleep difficult. Otherwise looks solid.

    If you do need to avoid that late dose you could to 1.5 servings in the morning and before workout IMO.
    This is true. The stim effect on the morning dose lastest longest for me. The second dose didn't seem to last as long. But ya taking at 7pm might disrupt sleep. Just mess with the dosing schedule that fits your needs and you'll be good to go.

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    Ok thanks a lot guys! Im going to take 1.5 in the morning and another 1.5 45min to an hour before my workouts at 3.

    I have one last question...

    I was reading an IF article from Lean Gains, and it was saying that my pre workout meal (around 12) should be around 20-25% of my calorie intake for the day. That means that my 5:30 to 8 should be my biggest meal of the day.

    How many calories should I be eating overall in a day? I'm 6'2 290 lbs with 31% body fat. Keep in mind I'm a college football player with classes in the mornings and lifting/running in the afternoon. I don't want to eat too less/too much!

    Any diet advice would help a lot too!!

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    a lot of awesome advice in here!
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    Originally Posted by Jlew98 View Post
    Ok thanks a lot guys! Im going to take 1.5 in the morning and another 1.5 45min to an hour before my workouts at 3.

    I have one last question...

    I was reading an IF article from Lean Gains, and it was saying that my pre workout meal (around 12) should be around 20-25% of my calorie intake for the day. That means that my 5:30 to 8 should be my biggest meal of the day.

    How many calories should I be eating overall in a day? I'm 6'2 290 lbs with 31% body fat. Keep in mind I'm a college football player with classes in the mornings and lifting/running in the afternoon. I don't want to eat too less/too much!

    Any diet advice would help a lot too!!
    you need to find out your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure).

    Once u find this out you can calculate however many calories you need to deduct to make a calorie deficit for the day.

    Then you can figure out how many calories u need pre workout and for the rest of ur fast break meals to reach your TDEE.

    Just know everyone is different and it takes time to figure out how your body will respond to certain things.

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    Correct me if im wrong... don't want to be the devils advocate, but if your playing for a college football team (NCAA Affiliated), then I would believe that using stimulants (e.g. Caffeine) and beta-2-agonists (alphamine) would be a violation of the NCAA rules.

    Just looking out for a collegiate football player. Wouldn't want anything bad happen, such as suspension or termination of your scholarship (if you have one).

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    Originally Posted by Bamski View Post
    Correct me if im wrong... don't want to be the devils advocate, but if your playing for a college football team (NCAA Affiliated), then I would believe that using stimulants (e.g. Caffeine) and beta-2-agonists (alphamine) would be a violation of the NCAA rules.

    Just looking out for a collegiate football player. Wouldn't want anything bad happen, such as suspension or termination of your scholarship (if you have one).
    Didn't even think about that. Good thinking sir but hopefully he already checked into this and knows what he can/ can't take. If its NAIA or some college team like that you'll be good. I know a few colleges that don't test for certain substances.

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    All substances in Alphamine are not currently banned by the NCAA, caffeine dose would have to be crazy high which is not the case with Alphamine.
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    Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    All substances in Alphamine are not currently banned by the NCAA, caffeine dose would have to be crazy high which is not the case with Alphamine.
    Good to know

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    Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    All substances in Alphamine are not currently banned by the NCAA, caffeine dose would have to be crazy high which is not the case with Alphamine.
    Oh nice! Good for clearing that up.

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    Hey guys! This forum is awesome, and you guys make this journey 100% easier and knowledgeable!

    This is my shopping card I purchased last night...

    Alphamine PES
    BCAA USP Labs Modern
    Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Protein
    Optimum Nutrition Multivitamins
    Nordic Naturals Omega 3

    I figured out my TDEE is 5,636. Does that sound right for a 6'1" 290 College/Student Athelete? I used a another online calculator and it said 4,350. Which one sounds more accurate to you guys?

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    Originally Posted by Jlew98 View Post
    Hey guys! This forum is awesome, and you guys make this journey 100% easier and knowledgeable!

    This is my shopping card I purchased last night...

    Alphamine PES
    BCAA USP Labs Modern
    Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex Protein
    Optimum Nutrition Multivitamins
    Nordic Naturals Omega 3

    I figured out my TDEE is 5,636. Does that sound right for a 6'1" 290 College/Student Athelete? I used a another online calculator and it said 4,350. Which one sounds more accurate to you guys?
    I would have gone with something else over ON Pro Complex but since you already ordered it... it should do. Also would of went with another multivitamin but you'll be good.

    I know many TDEE calculators are different online so its kind of a mess to figure out which one is right. Did you use one that allowed you to put in your workout lengths, cardio, how busy u are during the day and so on?

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    Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    1. for alphamine you can dose however you want. I did 1 scoop 3 times a day 4 hours apart with one dose being for pre-workout. Some do 2 scoops in the morning then another later in the day so really its up to you.

    2. Many people break their fast post workout. But if you wake up early and get done with ur workout around 5 you could break your fast with a pre-workout meal. Many people do a 16/8 fast window. But its really up to you if you want a pre-workout meal or not.

    3. If your fasting just take 10 grams BCAA with your alphamine in the morning. The alphamine will supress your appetite also. Many people fall into IF because of the appetite suppression from Alphamine. Keep taking 10 gram BCAA about every 2-3 hours until you break your fast.
    Just a quick note; I recently opened up another topic on this, and there are some thoughts where BCAAs will actually break your fast and therefore prevent you from taking advantage of the advantages of IF as it may cause somewhat of an insulin spike.

    There has not been a conclusive answer on the post I opened so I am not sure whether it does indeed or not, I'm giving a shot on my own without taking BCAAs to see how I react, just figured I would also toss it out there.
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    Originally Posted by bla55 View Post

    Just a quick note; I recently opened up another topic on this, and there are some thoughts where BCAAs will actually break your fast and therefore prevent you from taking advantage of the advantages of IF as it may cause somewhat of an insulin spike.

    There has not been a conclusive answer on the post I opened so I am not sure whether it does indeed or not, I'm giving a shot on my own without taking BCAAs to see how I react, just figured I would also toss it out there.
    It wont spike ur insulin enough to break your fast. You'll be good with taking BCAA. I wouldn't recommend doing IF without BCAA.

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