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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    A while ago Mission1 posted some negative reviews about supplements, pretty sure he called them junk because to him, they were junk. Loads of other people said they were good but in his opinion, it was junk.

    I stuck up for him when people jumped down his throat. I think it is a nice forum where people can post negative reviews without getting grief.

    There is a lot of information which is missing which would be helpful. I agree with asking for it.

    I specifically disagree with statements such as this which in fairness is a bit patronising.



    When people claimed Mission1 was a troll because he didn't like Tropinol or Ursobolic I stuck up for him because their return comments were unfair. By all means ask further questions to find out more information on the OPs history, previous blood levels, previous supplement history etc. In my opinion, the above statement is unfair because at no point did he say he was disappointed he didn't get "massive gains", he was just disappointed that a testosterone booster barely boosted his testosterone which I think is fair enough.
    Like afore mentioned Benjamin , I merely asked the pertinent questions...and the statement was merely because (as mentioned by many others) the OP had some previous strikes on posting...however I agree it was a bit premature.

    I am still expecting the answers, yet I don't think I'll get them. It will suffice to assume he either had already high T levels to begin with and thus DAA could not do much, or that he is a non-responder to it...in which case the mere generalization that it is junk is a bit blunt...perhaps to HIM it is not worth it, but we cannot generalize . Oh by the way Merry Christmas Ben! Even if it's late !
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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Curious... DAA isn't level specific is it? It shouldn't make any difference whether his levels were 500 or 800. Maybe he is just a non responder? Although, I feel like due to other variables he may not be getting the whole picture, so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Curious... DAA isn't level specific is it? It shouldn't make any difference whether his levels were 500 or 800. Maybe he is just a non responder? Although, I feel like due to other variables he may not be getting the whole picture, so to speak.

    - Valdez
    Curious...if he had peak levels of T , how do you want DAA to increase endogenous production if his system is already at max or near max output? As presented before DAA will not yield (to my knowledge) supra physical values of testosterone Valdez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Curious... DAA isn't level specific is it? It shouldn't make any difference whether his levels were 500 or 800. Maybe he is just a non responder? Although, I feel like due to other variables he may not be getting the whole picture, so to speak.

    - Valdez
    Also could be that OP is in HTPA shutdown and without a SERM I don't see how DAA alone in 3-4 weeks could restart his HTPA system and help bring back testosterone levels to normal...But like you say , we are missing another variables for the whole picture, not just level specificity .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    Hahaha!!!!!!! So............................ .............................. .............................. .......................

    Alphamine huh? When were you gonna tell me?

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    Wanted to surprise you. Trying to speed up the process! Please don't be mad at me I woke up up this morning and thought it would be a killer move to enhance the fat loss process.
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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Curious...if he had peak levels of T , how do you want DAA to increase endogenous production if his system is already at max or near max output? As presented before DAA will not yield (to my knowledge) supra physical values of testosterone Valdez.
    Take it easy Mr., I was thinking out loud, lol. The only natural peak testosterone levels I have ever seen are on the within normal limits range that are used in the medical field, which I believe to be 200-1159 ng/dl. My point being that, I think more than likely he is a non responder vs being maxed out. That is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Take it easy Mr., I was thinking out loud, lol. The only natural peak testosterone levels I have ever seen are on the within normal limits range that are used in the medical field, which I believe to be 200-1159 ng/dl. My point being that, I think more than likely he is a non responder vs being maxed out. That is all

    - Valdez
    I am taking it easy I don't get why people think I get worked up in every post xD haha. Anyhow it is also possible he is just in a hard HTPA shutdown and I guess you know that DAA alone in 3-4 weeks cannot bring back T levels to normal if that's the case .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    Curious... DAA isn't level specific is it? It shouldn't make any difference whether his levels were 500 or 800. Maybe he is just a non responder? Although, I feel like due to other variables he may not be getting the whole picture, so to speak.

    - Valdez
    It would theoretically be more effective in an individual with lower T levels (in contrast to something like Divanil which works best on someone with higher T levels).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Curious...if he had peak levels of T , how do you want DAA to increase endogenous production if his system is already at max or near max output? As presented before DAA will not yield (to my knowledge) supra physical values of testosterone Valdez.
    Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA's ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
    Must have missed that point, good to know it can actually work for supraphysical levels though. Thanks Cy!
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    In for people twisting bdcc's words around! :-)

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    My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


    Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


    Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
    Then that's it , you are a non-responder to DAA. Try Bulbine and see if you respond better to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


    Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
    SNS reps are an aggressive species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Then that's it , you are a non-responder to DAA. Try Bulbine and see if you respond better to it.
    Alright that is fair advice. I shall indeed give it a shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    Alright that is fair advice. I shall indeed give it a shot
    Thanks a lot and keep us posted!
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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    My levels were 410 before taking DAA, and 440 a few weeks in. I took the recommended dose by SNS.


    Holy SNS rep attacks, though. I want to run. Where's my dude Free hahaha I can't hold up to them all alone
    SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

    We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

    We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

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    I was actually referring to the guy who said I was trolling or some other person or something. I think he said I was another account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    SNS rep attacks? What is going on with this forum lately? There needs to be some anti e added into everyone's water. Take your emotional responses out of the equation, read and comprehend the intentions being made by myself, coop and others and relax.

    We're trying to help you not attack you. I was trying to get the total picture to find out what could be done to help boost your testosterone which is why YOU bought DAA in the first place. No worries dude I keep my T naturally up around 900 but I don't want to offer any advice due to the malicious nature of my concern.

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    Hey, I'll take some advice... I'm sweden and mine sits at ~500. 900 would be amazong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    SNS reps are an aggressive species.
    I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

    If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

    If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
    I know what the problem is...... All reps in here here are taking Daa right now and their answers are very aggressive and offensive too. Sh*t was work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

    If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
    Lol I was kinda joking.

    There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

    Who cares,chill out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Lol I was kinda joking.

    There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

    Who cares,chill out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Lol I was kinda joking.

    There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

    Who cares,chill out.
    Actually,I am not being fair here.

    There is only one SNS rep that really really gets on my nerves.
    He`s on some other boards too,not just AM.

    I apologize to all the other ones for my previous hasty statement.




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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I haven't once seen/read of them being aggressive to anyone in this thread. Since when was asking for clarification/ more info/ discussing considered aggressive behaviour?

    If this is your definition of aggressive; oh my.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
    I know what the problem is...... All reps in here here are taking Daa right now and their answers are very aggressive and offensive too. Sh*t was work
    Lol!

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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Hey, I'll take some advice... I'm sweden and mine sits at ~500. 900 would be amazong
    My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Lol I was kinda joking.

    There ARE some SNS reps who are real jerks.Won`t name anyone.Generally their not so bad,like other reps,not better nor worse.

    Who cares,chill out.
    Lol, I am chill... Just sharing my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Peak natural levels are not synonymous with peak levels attainable by a natural supplement. While the pathway exploited may be endogenous, DAA can certainly elevate T levels out of range (supraphysiological) if the individual's levels are already quite high. This is due to DAA's ability to affect StAR activity moreso than its ability to elevate LH.
    Interesting... always amaze me with your knowledge. Did you get this information other than the clinical study or did you just stumble across it and remember it with your superior memory? lol

    Hmmm i'm still debating whether or not to hop on the DAA train and try it.
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    Lol.. i know what DAA does with cAMP, but with the Steroidogenic acute regulatory protein (or stAR) is new to me, and that was what i was looking for but now i found it and im reading, reading, reading!Thanks for posting though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post

    My last draw was 880 BUT its kind of a pain in the ass. I'm talking a complete revamping of things that you use regularly around your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post

    Bottle it and distribute it. If that doesn't help him, he can try BB.
    If it doesn't work ill just run SD at 40mg for six weeks then cruise at 20mg. I heard that was a good way to boost test
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    Re: DAA is useless, IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mission1 View Post
    Bottle it and distribute it. If that doesn't help him, he can try BB.
    Like trublood lol V blood

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Shoot me a PM when you have time. I'm interested to say the least.
    Will do buddy! I'll get back to you tomo.

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    If it doesn't work ill just run SD at 40mg for six weeks then cruise at 20mg. I heard that was a good way to boost test
    Or crush it lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamski View Post
    Interesting... always amaze me with your knowledge. Did you get this information other than the clinical study or did you just stumble across it and remember it with your superior memory? lol

    Hmmm i'm still debating whether or not to hop on the DAA train and try it.
    Yeah, it was in the original clinical trial and also a pair of other rat studies. Reading new texts on this kind of stuff is leisurely reading for me so I guess it sticks lol.
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