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    Patience is a good virtue to learn and practice, perhaps a new years resolution is in order for our avid and awaiting CF FXT crowd?
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    Yes sirrr! thats my plan, especially since i've never tried the caffeine and i know it would work so well with my daily regime!
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    Just curious.....how much did all of that cost??? WOW!!!


    I say double that stack.....and go with it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Holy...

    19... And with that amount of supplements... WTF.

    Kid, (holy sht... just went there)

    No amount of supplements is going to replace hard work, good nutrition and good training. No supplement, no steroid, no nothing will replace good behavior, attitude and dedication inside or outside the gym. Period. Taking all these supps and not eating right or not training right and getting sht faced on the weekends will bring you absolutely nowhere aside from an emptier bank account.

    Not to mention that at 19 you most likely are not experienced enough to know your body limitations, and surely you have yet to reach a plateau when it comes to muscle gain, so all of this is going to be one big waste as the added benefits from this are going to be minimal when compared to placebo group.

    Get your workout straightened out before you jump into these
    These arent a replacement i never said that. My training is in check so is my diet. i dont drink so enough wish all the accusations. All i was asking was if this stack was a waste to take all at once. Not if my training was in check or if i new my body limitations.
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    Im pretty sure the consensus was that it WAS too much.. From what i see.. you can easily make a good 2 maybe 3 cycles from what you have. Impressive stash no doubt, but more is certainly not better in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    These arent a replacement i never said that. My training is in check so is my diet. i dont drink so enough wish all the accusations. All i was asking was if this stack was a waste to take all at once. Not if my training was in check or if i new my body limitations.
    Well, that is the impression that you promote of yourself; as a 19 year old, you shouldn't be asking if this humongous list of supps is good, more likely you should eb asking about your nutrition and training, as they will be the determinant factor on your growth at that age.
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    I still don't see why a healthy 19 year old would need half this stuff...refer to my post on each and everyone of them as for the reasons...but then again, We are just internet personas to him...and he is a 19 year old , we've all been young an stubborn, so we might as well give proper advice...


    Out of all the ones, which ones do you really want to run and I can help you set up dosage and diet for each, just don't overdo it...you have at least 4-5 good stacks there...no need to just throw it all in at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    These arent a replacement i never said that. My training is in check so is my diet. i dont drink so enough wish all the accusations. All i was asking was if this stack was a waste to take all at once. Not if my training was in check or if i new my body limitations.
    Your question -"is it a waste to take all at once"

    Answer - yes, not only a waste but absurd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty View Post
    I am 34 which of these would you think I would need. I ask because after 8,348 post I would think you know just about more than anyone else on the site.
    Lol trust me , mr.cooper69 is the most educated person in this forums, him and another handful of good folk here. I just like to help out.

    What are your goals brother? If I can be of assistance I'll gladly do so, and also what are you taking atm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty View Post
    Taking-Creatine,Fish oil, Cissus, Agmatine, C.O.P, Multi., Gluc.Chond.MSM, Bioforge, Beta-Alanine, Whey-Casine, R-ALA, ALC, Carnitine.
    I am interested in ecdy/E-Bol and SARMS Ostarine. Interested in anything that helps with lean muscle and joint health.

    Thanks
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    I would change the R-Ala for Na-R-Ala and add ALCAR with it's dose prior to meals (1-2g ALCAR with 300mg Na-R-Ala). If you are taking COP take it preworkout 2g on workout days only...hm fish oil shoot from 3-5g of EPA/DHA content, agmatine can be from 1-1.5g (depending on weight) and I would just go for a good protein if you so wish for, like Ultra Peptide or Trutein.

    Carnitine...which salt? And if it is LCLT make it 2g pre-workout. How long have you been taking the bioforge? Honestly if you want lean muscle and put on some size I would just go with Anabeta (the original) and ArA (arachidonic acid, xfactor)...well that and the GMS and LCLT to go along with the ArA.

    If you know your t levels shoot em up, perhaps you could benefit from some DAA too, even if Anacyclus is a test booster of it's own too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty View Post
    Also what is GMS and LCLT
    Glycerol Monosterate and L-carnitine l-tartrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty View Post
    Also what is GMS and LCLT
    Glycerol Monostearate

    L-Carnitine L-Tartrate

    Edit: Honda beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty View Post

    Thanks guys what brand would you go with. Looks like NP is sold out of GMS
    CL GlycerGrow is GMS. (I think)

    I've never used it personally. (I know shame on me)
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    Controlled Labs GlycerGrow is indeed GMS and will last you a good 4-6 months, no lie. GMS is also found on I-Force's Hemavol and probably a few other PWOs I'm too lazy to look up!
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    Go with 6-8 grams GMS pre-workout with Ara. The GMS will help emulsify the ArA. Many only run GMS with Ara otherwise it does nothing but give you muscle cell dehydration.
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    All the answers so far have been provided it seems...now what they missed was your question. Yes I would go with a pro-inflammatory for further muscle hypertrophy, The Joint combo you are taking should prove sufficient to keep your joints up with the inflammation, just make sure to dose them away from the workout (thus the dosing time of ArA) so some 4 hours after the ArA dose AT LEAST...Specially keep away the Omega 3's (fish oil) from the Omega 6 (ArA).
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    How about just erase pro, anabeta elite, pro complex gainer, x factor og, lclt and glycergrow and staples
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    How about just erase pro, anabeta elite, pro complex gainer, x factor og, lclt and glycergrow and staples
    Drop the pro complex gainer and make you own shake ( milk, whey, banana, extra). Other then that would be a sick stack and should see good gains for a natty stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    How about just erase pro, anabeta elite, pro complex gainer, x factor og, lclt and glycergrow and staples
    AI for a 19 year old? and Anabeta elite...? 2 natural hormonals for an under 21 would be against even my undefined code-of-conduct...so dose those as per the bottles already innate recommendations .

    As far as the Pro Complex Gainer:

    -Take 1 scoop and dump in the toilet
    -Repeat until empty.
    -Replace with a diet based on 1g of protein per lb of body weight , .5g of fat per lb of bw , and also carbs to fulfill the rest of the caloric allotment which will be in a surplus because you will dose ArA like such:

    -1.5-2.5g pre workout (if X-Factor then 6-10 caps)
    -2g LCLT along with it
    -6-8g of GMS , so around 3 scoops of Glycergrow)

    Staples:
    -3g ~ of Beta Alanine everyday (around 3.2 to 4.5g should suffice for the first 12 weeks, then you can dose it 4x a week since it saturated by then)
    -3-5g of Creatine Monohydrate or Magnesium creatine chelate, you can decide to dose it every day or only 4x a week , no need for a loading phase.
    Both of those above, take them post workout , creatine all at once , beta alanine in separate doses.

    Fish oil around 3-5g of EPA/DHA. (3g is all you need iMO).

    Dose them at least 4-6 hours away from the ArA dosage.

    Anything else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    AI for a 19 year old? and Anabeta elite...? 2 natural hormonals for an under 21 would be against even my undefined code-of-conduct...so dose those as per the bottles already innate recommendations .

    As far as the Pro Complex Gainer:

    -Take 1 scoop and dump in the toilet
    -Repeat until empty.
    -Replace with a diet based on 1g of protein per lb of body weight , .5g of fat per lb of bw , and also carbs to fulfill the rest of the caloric allotment which will be in a surplus because you will dose ArA like such:

    -1.5-2.5g pre workout (if X-Factor then 6-10 caps)
    -2g LCLT along with it
    -6-8g of GMS , so around 3 scoops of Glycergrow)

    Staples:
    -3g ~ of Beta Alanine everyday (around 3.2 to 4.5g should suffice for the first 12 weeks, then you can dose it 4x a week since it saturated by then)
    -3-5g of Creatine Monohydrate or Magnesium creatine chelate, you can decide to dose it every day or only 4x a week , no need for a loading phase.
    Both of those above, take them post workout , creatine all at once , beta alanine in separate doses.

    Fish oil around 3-5g of EPA/DHA. (3g is all you need iMO).

    Dose them at least 4-6 hours away from the ArA dosage.

    Anything else?
    Hypothetically the AI should be more effective for someone his age. And apparently if his growth plates haven't sealed he could grow taller as well. (As per something coop said on here)

    Keep in mind that I'm not necessarily suggesting he uses them but he is an adult and can make his own decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Hypothetically the AI should be more effective for someone his age. And apparently if his growth plates haven't sealed he could grow taller as well. (As per something coop said on here)

    Keep in mind that I'm not necessarily suggesting he uses them but he is an adult and can make his own decisions.
    I would LOVE to see that Coop post, seeing how he and I have often agreed here that an AI under 21 should be a no-no...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    I would LOVE to see that Coop post, seeing how he and I have often agreed here that an AI under 21 should be a no-no...
    He didn't suggest someone under 21 use it. Merely stated that it would hypothetically be more effective.

    Edit: They were also individual posts in separate threads. Maybe a month or longer in between, I can try to dig them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    He didn't suggest someone under 21 use it. Merely stated that it would hypothetically be more effective.
    Hypothetically, yes...recommendable? Not a shot in hell...I'm just waiting for dear CyBear to chime in once he sees this...
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    The shake might be convenient for him. Whole foods are much better of course, but no matter what advice he's getting, he seems bent on supplementation as the answer instead of training and diet, so maybe it doesn't really matter what we tell him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    The shake might be convenient for him. Whole foods are much better of course, but no matter what advice he's getting, he seems bent on supplementation as the answer instead of training and diet, so maybe it doesn't really matter what we tell him.
    Obviously if he already has the pro complex gainer then by all means use it... but if not then he can find/make much less expensive foods to replace that. Protein bars.. make his own weight gainer shake... many more options. I used to be that kid that thought supplements were needed no matter what until I learned from others/ did my research and it saved me $$$. Hope he listens though and understand people are just trying to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Obviously if he already has the pro complex gainer then by all means use it... but if not then he can find/make much less expensive foods to replace that. Protein bars.. make his own weight gainer shake... many more options. I used to be that kid that thought supplements were needed no matter what until I learned from others/ did my research and it saved me $$$. Hope he listens though and understand people are just trying to help.
    lord knows we all tried lol...
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    Listen to these guys. They know. At 19 you're crazy. Wait 5 years at least. If you've got that kind of money laying around invest it. Roth IRA. Google it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post

    AI for a 19 year old? and Anabeta elite...? 2 natural hormonals for an under 21 would be against even my undefined code-of-conduct...so dose those as per the bottles already innate recommendations .

    As far as the Pro Complex Gainer:

    -Take 1 scoop and dump in the toilet
    -Repeat until empty.
    -Replace with a diet based on 1g of protein per lb of body weight , .5g of fat per lb of bw , and also carbs to fulfill the rest of the caloric allotment which will be in a surplus because you will dose ArA like such:

    -1.5-2.5g pre workout (if X-Factor then 6-10 caps)
    -2g LCLT along with it
    -6-8g of GMS , so around 3 scoops of Glycergrow)

    Staples:
    -3g ~ of Beta Alanine everyday (around 3.2 to 4.5g should suffice for the first 12 weeks, then you can dose it 4x a week since it saturated by then)
    -3-5g of Creatine Monohydrate or Magnesium creatine chelate, you can decide to dose it every day or only 4x a week , no need for a loading phase.
    Both of those above, take them post workout , creatine all at once , beta alanine in separate doses.

    Fish oil around 3-5g of EPA/DHA. (3g is all you need iMO).

    Dose them at least 4-6 hours away from the ArA dosage.

    Anything else?
    Ok cool looks good to mee im think im gonna do the erase pro, anabeta elite, dpol, x factor og. Plus the goodies u threw in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    The shake might be convenient for him. Whole foods are much better of course, but no matter what advice he's getting, he seems bent on supplementation as the answer instead of training and diet, so maybe it doesn't really matter what we tell him.
    Im getting enough whole foods just a shake is more convienent at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyyankee41 View Post
    Listen to these guys. They know. At 19 you're crazy. Wait 5 years at least. If you've got that kind of money laying around invest it. Roth IRA. Google it
    Wait 5 years to take anabeta elite? Its not a steroid. In 5 years i will be on steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    Wait 5 years to take anabeta elite? Its not a steroid. In 5 years i will be on steroids.
    Sad lol...and now throwing in a DAA with nitrates...you don't even know your test levels.
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    please stop... you are gonna regret that you took all this supps later
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    Did someone say Daa with Nitrates!?!?! Haha but seriously OP you don't need all that to build muscle and like stated test boosters will barely have any effect on you if so very minuscule at your age
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    Quote Originally Posted by thr33x View Post
    Would this be too much for the body and just a waste of money? 8 to 12 week cycle bulk for 8 cut for 4.
    Erase pro x 2
    Anabeta elite x 2
    X factor OG x 2
    Dpol x 2
    Pro complex gainer 10lb
    Alphamine x 2
    Vanillean x 2
    CLA x 2
    LiGHTs out x 2
    Bcaas saas x 2
    Modern bcaas x 1
    Prime x 2
    Mass hgh x 2
    Creatine o phosphate x 2
    Pump hd
    Muscle marinade
    Condense
    Orange triad
    Versa 1 x 2
    Glycergrow
    Slinshot x 2
    Lclt
    Protein 4lb
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