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    Best Pre-Workout (cheap and effective)


    I recently decided to invest in taking a pre workout along with caffiene pills. What are some of the reccomended pwo's?

    I am thinking about using one of these:
    • C4 Extreme
    • Totalis (Ian Mcarthy)
    • Animal Pump
    • Jack3d (new formula)



    Which of those is the best? I am mainly contemplating between the first two. Thanks!

    Btw, i am new here, so i would like to say "Hi" to everybody.

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    This : http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/p....html?sel=4827

    Hands down my favorite, it's simple and effective plus you get 40 servings.
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    PNI Prodigy over everything
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    What do you guys think of the ones i have listed?
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    PNI Prodigy and Ignited are the 2 recommened, what about the list i have stated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    What do you guys think of the ones i have listed?
    I'll be honest, I think their very weak. Never heard of Totalis though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio View Post
    I'll be honest, I think their very weak. Never heard of Totalis though.
    (Smartpowders.com/) p-10843-totalis-pre-workout-w-cm-200g.aspx I can not post links yet.

    So PNI Prodigy or IGNITED?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    PNI Prodigy and Ignited are the 2 recommened, what about the list i have stated?
    as a rep for Finaflex, i dislike rating other products..
    however, i will say you have a list of very different items there, with very different effects.
    you need to determine if you want more of a "pump product" or more of an "energy product"..

    imo, Ignite2 accomplishes both.
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    Any place i can get a discount for it? lol and i want a product that will energize me for lifts and getting me pumped up! So, yes you are right
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    Never tried Ignite so I can't say anything about it, however, I have used 90% of the preworkouts on Nutra and PNI Prodigy beats all of them IMO.
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    Will try! Did you check the totalis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast
    Will try! Did you check the totalis?
    Looks solid however 200 mg of Citrulline is to low. And 20 servings is a little low IMO. I love the fact how I can't take more than one scoop because it's to much for me. With the old jacked and other concentrated preworkouts id have to take like 3 scoops to feel anything. This is not the case with prodigy
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    Any place i can get a discount for it? lol and i want a product that will energize me for lifts and getting me pumped up! So, yes you are right
    it is already discounted bud, $28.99 for 30 TRUE servings.
    you will not need to take more than 1 scoop of this, and i recommend you start lower than that to assess.
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    MAN Body Octane is pretty solid too. Can even be combined with a PWO you already have to fill in any ingredient gaps.
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    I am currently 15.5 years old, 170lbs and 5' 8" is the PNI Prodigy still OK for me? Or Ignited
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    I am currently 15.5 years old, 170lbs and 5' 8" is the PNI Prodigy still OK for me? Or Ignited
    ooops.
    that shoulda been the first thing out of your mouth.
    unfortunately i cannot advise any of our products for you, as recommended age for use is 18.
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    Lol i understand, advise a product for my age?
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    safe things:
    food (learn the power of food!)
    multivite
    possibly creatine
    protein powder
    fish oil

    i would not advise any stims, but you'll do what you want to do.
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    I take caffiene pills already, C4 extreme should be ok? I have been lifting 8-9 months (i have a log).
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Whatever Mom and Dad make you for meals. Plus snacks.
    Current supps i am on are: Creatine, Whey, Fish Oils, Multi Vitamins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    C4 extreme should be ok?
    no. 18 to use as well.
    no rep should advise a preWO like this for you.
    like i said - you are gonna do what you are gonna do..
    just don't waste your time looking for someone to co-sign the idea for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    no. 18 to use as well.
    no rep should advise a preWO like this for you.
    like i said - you are gonna do what you are gonna do..
    just don't waste your time looking for someone to co-sign the idea for you.
    I understand, and thank you for understanding ultimately it is my decsion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio View Post
    PNI Prodigy over everything
    To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B3ast View Post
    I am currently 15.5 years old, 170lbs and 5' 8" is the PNI Prodigy still OK for me? Or Ignited
    Well being that your 15 1/2 I'm advising you against all supplementation except for Mom's cooking, protein and maybe a multivitamin/mineral.
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    Beast - Go with coffee
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81 View Post
    To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.
    Agreed, this tactic drives me nuts
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    im going with totalis on this one,

    LCLT, beta alanine, Citrulline malate, ALCAR, caffeine, Norvaline, and Tyrosine?

    thats a damn good pre workout, if i want more caffeine ill just brew an extra cup of coffee >=), either way its a good buy IMO

    ALSO, the site is providing 200grams of citrulline malate, not 200mg.
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    For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    For a simple pre dosed effectively, condese + focus XT
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    Great idea... Even a stim free can be of good use
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    I like White Flood. Not to stimmy, I can add more stim if I like, and has most of the "preworkout staples" in it. I have been dosing 1 scoop with 2 RPM caps and having kick ass workouts. Just the right amount of stim for me, and a nice strength boost.

    I also dosed COP preworkout for the first time today (4 SNS caps) and it seemed to help get an extra rep or 2 on my heavy sets. This will be my go to preworkout stack for the next few months.

    Oh yeah. On upper body days I add 9 grams Cit Mal. I don't use it on lower body days, gives me horrible back pumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81 View Post

    To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.
    Agreed. Not needed IMO. However I can say that Prodigy is a kick ass product. It works quite well. And although a prop blend you can pretty much figure out its property dosed. All that said to the OP your current supplement regimen is enough. Food and the right food at that combined with training is what you should be concerned about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrain13 View Post
    Agreed. Not needed IMO. However I can say that Prodigy is a kick ass product. It works quite well. And although a prop blend you can pretty much figure out its property dosed. All that said to the OP your current supplement regimen is enough. Food and the right food at that combined with training is what you should be concerned about.
    It does sound like a well rounded product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caz1238 View Post
    im going with totalis on this one,

    LCLT, beta alanine, Citrulline malate, ALCAR, caffeine, Norvaline, and Tyrosine?

    thats a damn good pre workout, if i want more caffeine ill just brew an extra cup of coffee >=), either way its a good buy IMO

    ALSO, the site is providing 200grams of citrulline malate, not 200mg.
    I am thinking of going with that one as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanp81

    To window dress ingredients like beta alanine, caffeine, arginine and theobromine intentionally under there scientific name in order to sound innovative and fool the less than educated consumer that's probably already overwhelmed by the flood of latest and greatest "me-too" pre-w/o drinks is borderline shady IMO. Not to mention prodigy doesn't even have a full month's serving.
    Its the consumers responsibility to look at what their taking. Who cares, it's just another nomenclature. If you read the label and think this product has one of a kind ingredients, that's your fault for not being informed. And if your working out every single day in a month, your doing it terribly wrong.
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    i say drink coffee as a pre...that way if a 16 year old gets heart palpitations while working out at least the f'ing fda knows better than to try and ban coffee-at least i hope they do!!!

    this is the kinda sh i t that gets all the good stuff banned...i wish they would realize that no law is going to protect a dumbass from himself.

    sorry op if you are a responsible 16 year old, but your age group is really screwing things up for the rest of us with irresponsible abuse of 'atm' legal products!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i say drink coffee as a pre...that way if a 16 year old gets heart palpitations while working out at least the f'ing fda knows better than to try and ban coffee-at least i hope they do!!!

    this is the kinda sh i t that gets all the good stuff banned...i wish they would realize that no law is going to protect a dumbass from himself.

    sorry op if you are a responsible 16 year old, but your age group is really screwing things up for the rest of us with irresponsible abuse of 'atm' legal products!!!
    I am responsible, and stay smart with the way i use supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonRubio View Post
    Its the consumers responsibility to look at what their taking. Who cares, it's just another nomenclature. If you read the label and think this product has one of a kind ingredients, that's your fault for not being informed. And if your working out every single day in a month, your doing it terribly wrong.
    Jon, unfortunately it doesn't really pan out that way in the real world outside the realm of AM.com where supplement educated smart folk like you and I sojourn regularly. It should be the companies goal to list ingredients for what they are known as in the real world and not in the lab or research field. When I see of all things something like arginine being listed as 2-amino-5-guanidinovaleric acid instead of arginine on a label that makes me think there's window dressing going on. I'm not gonna call it deceitful because I don't know what the intent of PNI had listing it that way since every other product they have seems to have there ingredients listed as what they are in the real world.

    We're not gonna see eye to eye and I respect that and with that being said I also respect the time you've invested logging products like prodigy and condense but for you to say who cares well it doesn't make me sound convinced. Btw what does working every single day in a month have to do with any of this ?
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