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Looks terrible. You'd be better off swallowing your actual kitchen sink rather than taking that approach.
 
6-8 dollars a serving for less than 30 days. Fu k that!

What are your goals?
 
Sorry, but this looks like a ridiculous waste of money. You would save a lot by simply picking up some DAA, focus xt/demiurge (or some other nootropic/combo) and one of the many great pre-workout options available on the market.
 
You also may want to take out Betaine HCL and ursolic acid... Lclt is under dosed and these are just on top of what everyone else said.

What are you hoping to accomplish its not take less pills because 13 pills per serving?! F that

- Valdez
 
These Are two different products. One is a insulin memetic/test booster and the second one is a no antioxidant ATP focus booster strength one. If you find Any thing redundant or to high in mg let me know. I'm trying to cut the cost but not loose efficacy of the raw ingredients.
 
That honestly just looks like you want to swollow the whole pharmacy.
 
These Are two different products. One is a insulin memetic/test booster and the second one is a no antioxidant ATP focus booster strength one. If you find Any thing redundant or to high in mg let me know. I'm trying to cut the cost but not loose efficacy of the raw ingredients.
Get yourself some Recompadrol and a preworkout. Save a **** ton of money.
 
These Are two different products. One is a insulin memetic/test booster and the second one is a no antioxidant ATP focus booster strength one. If you find Any thing redundant or to high in mg let me know. I'm trying to cut the cost but not loose efficacy of the raw ingredients.

You have underdosed nearly ingredient to the point of losing all efficacy. Both are junk.
 
Aside from the problems others have pointed out, I have no clue how you would take this. Some of these ingredients are insulin mimetic/GDAs that require ingestion with carbs, whereas alpha y is best taken as far away from carbs as possible.
 
kevinhy said:
Aside from the problems others have pointed out, I have no clue how you would take this. Some of these ingredients are insulin mimetic/GDAs that require ingestion with carbs, whereas alpha y is best taken as far away from carbs as possible.

This would be taken with vitargo or workout Maximizer. Which both have fast carbs.
 
Valdez said:
You also may want to take out Betaine HCL and ursolic acid... Lclt is under dosed and these are just on top of what everyone else said.

What are you hoping to accomplish its not take less pills because 13 pills per serving?! F that

- Valdez

Why should I take those two out? I wanted to use them for strength, Oxidation of fatty acids , Increases SAM-e levels in the brain, Improves intestinal health, Protects liver and kidneys
Helps Prevent osteoporosis, cardiovascular thrombosis and arthroscleroris.
 
Valdez said:
You also may want to take out Betaine HCL and ursolic acid... Lclt is under dosed and these are just on top of what everyone else said.

What are you hoping to accomplish its not take less pills because 13 pills per serving?! F that

- Valdez

Usually I get all this in powder and drink it but to get only what I need seems to be here at custom capsule so I wanted to give it a try. I am use to taking 10 caps at a time any how.
 
your concoction does not look like fun all i see is a bunch of useless ingredients that have bad synergy together or are underdosed
 
Wow...dj outdid himself with this lol
 
BMW big money waste.
 
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First one: Preworkout??? Decent ingredient listing, but really not necessary to have such a complex arsenal of proprietary ingredients.
Second: Looks like a thermogenic...again another complex ingredient listing, but very typical to what's out on the market currently. Most of them boost the body's core temp and give you tons of energy so that you can complete the tasks or activities at hand.
 
WPChickDiesel said:
First one: Preworkout??? Decent ingredient listing, but really not necessary to have such a complex arsenal of proprietary ingredients.
Second: Looks like a thermogenic...again another complex ingredient listing, but very typical to what's out on the market currently. Most of them boost the body's core temp and give you tons of energy so that you can complete the tasks or activities at hand.

I'm using ingredients they have. The first one is a preworkout and the second one is a thermo anabolic combo.
 
I'm using ingredients they have. The first one is a preworkout and the second one is a thermo anabolic combo.

In all seriousness, I think pretty much everyone agrees both products are awful. Why did you make this thread if you weren't willing to accept the [overwhelming] feedback?
 
mr.cooper69 said:
In all seriousness, I think pretty much everyone agrees both products are awful. Why did you make this thread if you weren't willing to accept the [overwhelming] feedback?

If these Products are similar to what's on the Market than what am I doing different?
 
If these Products are similar to what's on the Market than what am I doing different?

Throwing together antagonistic ingredients, underdosing nearly every single one, and paying quadruple the market price.

I will make you two far cheaper, far more effective products for a small price ;).
 
1 vote for coop to formulate something.
 
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