COMPANIES LEAVE OUT THE!!!! & INNOVATE

[thills]

90% of the formulations have Acesulfame potassium, aspartame, sucralose, artificial flavors, artificial coloring, etc. It is unnecessary to use these when their are natural and healthy alternatives like xylitol, stevia, etc.

I will no longer buy products with these ingredients and choose instead to buy "clean" products such as PrimaForce offers. No I am not asking the companies to cater to me. I am wondering when they will wake up and realize that these ingredients are becoming and will be a thing of the past.

Why not innovate your lines and become a leader in much more healthy formulations?

[Riskyb]

Xylitol and some other sweeteners can cause GI upset n diarrhea if u consume too much. I personally like Truvia, think its a healthier option in the artificial sweetener dept

[Rodja]

The idea that something synthetic is automatically dangerous and that something natural is safe is asinine.

[kenpoengineer]

I'm a chemical engineer and worked with a company that modified a plant that made a certain sweetener. We were told to use respirators because this sweetener metabolized in the liver and a small portion converted to a chemical similar to a nerve gas derivative.

While I agree that artificial doesn't automatically make something "bad" for you some if these "sweeteners" are definitely "not good" for you. So give us more options for supplements that use natural sweeteners like sugar.

[PreciseNstuff]

The idea that something synthetic is automatically dangerous and that something natural is safe is asinine.

Of course they are going to respond in this way. Do you think they want to spend all that money reformulating even if it is your health at stake

I'm a chemical engineer and worked with a company that modified a plant that made a certain sweetener. We were told to use respirators because this sweetener metabolized in the liver and a small portion converted to a chemical similar to a nerve gas derivative.

While I agree that artificial doesn't automatically make something "bad" for you some if these "sweeteners" are definitely "not good" for you. So give us more options for supplements that use natural sweeteners like sugar.

It is nice to see an intelligent post here every once in a while.

[Rodja]

I'm a chemical engineer and worked with a company that modified a plant that made a certain sweetener. We were told to use respirators because this sweetener metabolized in the liver and a small portion converted to a chemical similar to a nerve gas derivative.

While I agree that artificial doesn't automatically make something "bad" for you some if these "sweeteners" are definitely "not good" for you. So give us more options for supplements that use natural sweeteners like sugar.

Sugar is a better alternative? How in the hell did you reach that conclusion?

Of course they are going to respond in this way. Do you think they want to spend all that money reformulating even if it is your health at stake

Who is "they" and why are you acting like it is some massive collective effort to increase profits at the sake of the consumer? No company is forcing you to buy any supplement and whatever parameters you use is your business.

[kenpoengineer]

Hi Roja. Not saying that sugar is good for you. Just stating it is indeed better (in moderation) than some of these sweeteners.

[Rodja]

Hi Roja. Not saying that sugar is good for you. Just stating it is indeed better (in moderation) than some of these sweeteners.

The amount that would be needed to sweeten protein powders would no longer be moderate.

[thills]

effort to increase profits at the sake of the consumer? .

"Scratch a lie, find a thief"... These awful things like aspertame which when metabolized by the body becomes formaldehyde "embalming fluid" are cheaper to use than all natural healthy alternatives like stevia.

In the order to make the most astronomical profit off of you the consumer this is what is used.

[Rodja]

"Scratch a lie, find a thief"... These awful things like aspertame which when metabolized by the body becomes formaldehyde "embalming fluid" are cheaper to use than all natural healthy alternatives like stevia.

In the order to make the most astronomical profit off of you the consumer this is what is used.

[supermanjow]

You know that experiment/picture that was circulating a while back that had a plate of butter, smart balance, and margarine? The ants were all over the butter, there were a few attacking the smart balance, and the margarine had a few dead ants in it? Well, I had a similar experience happen a couple months ago. I had a bag of powdered stevia sweetner and a bag of splenda in the same box packed away. Some mice got into the box and demolished the stevia. There were some teeth marks in the splenda bag, but after the initial taste it seemed like they left it alone. That's got a say something.

Now, I'm not one that buys into all the hype surrounding artificial sweetners and use them regularly without thinking twice about it. But there do seem to be some that are a little healthier/better than others.

[PreciseNstuff]

"Scratch a lie, find a thief"... These awful things like aspertame which when metabolized by the body becomes formaldehyde "embalming fluid" are cheaper to use than all natural healthy alternatives like stevia.

In the order to make the most astronomical profit off of you the consumer this is what is used.

You know that experiment/picture that was circulating a while back that had a plate of butter, smart balance, and margarine? The ants were all over the butter, there were a few attacking the smart balance, and the margarine had a few dead ants in it? Well, I had a similar experience happen a couple months ago. I had a bag of powdered stevia sweetner and a bag of splenda in the same box packed away. Some mice got into the box and demolished the stevia. There were some teeth marks in the splenda bag, but after the initial taste it seemed like they left it alone. That's got a say something.

This now makes 3 perceptive post on one thread

Who is "they" and why are you acting like it is some massive collective effort to increase profits at the sake of the consumer? No company is forcing you to buy any supplement and whatever parameters you use is your business.

Sure you didn't previously work for big tobacco?

[Rodja]

Sure you didn't previously work for big tobacco?

Please tell me you're not trying to equate artificial sweeteners to commercial tobacco. Is there an LD50 on aspartame, sucralose, acesulfame, etc. toxicity? Of course there is, however, you would have to take an astronomical amount of each of them daily to reach these doses. Considering that each of the commercially available forms of these (e.g. Splenda) are cut with maltodextrin and an anti-caking agent, you'd have to dump in bags of the stuff, which, let's be honest, is not happening. I find it somewhat hilarious that Truvia is gaining popularity when it is the brainchild of Cargill and Coca-Cola. When I think healthy options, I think Cargill and Coca-Cola.

[PreciseNstuff]

No company is forcing you to buy any supplement and whatever parameters you use is your business.

Please tell me you're not trying to equate artificial sweeteners to commercial tobacco.

No I was equating your reasoning to that which has been used through the course of history as a sad excuse for shilling out unhealthy goods to an uninformed public to make a higher profit.

[bioman]

I'm not fond of artificial sweeteners, but I also realize some things like BCAA's and some proteins are very hard to flavor without them. I use Muscle Milk Naturals for this reason, even though I'm getting a little extra sugar. Then again, I'm not a competitive BBer so a few extra grams of sugar won't put a knot in my banana hammock

[DAdams91982]

No I was equating your reasoning to that which has been used through the course of history as a sad excuse for shilling out unhealthy goods to an uninformed public to make a higher profit.

Got any other nice little factoids for us from Occupy Wallstreet?

[PreciseNstuff]

Got any other nice little factoids for us from Occupy Wallstreet?

Lol, no I was not one of those that voted for Obama or occupied Wallstreet. Just a conservative businessman that likes to see good business practices. Not at all against capitalism but not at the expense of peoples health.

[hsk]

I find it somewhat hilarious that Truvia is gaining popularity when it is the brainchild of Cargill and Coca-Cola. When I think healthy options, I think Cargill and Coca-Cola.

I was going to mention this, but you beat me to it...lol!

[thills]

For all of you afraid of artificial sweeteners and almost everything you touch or come in contact with....

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But you see T-Bone you must have some germs or your immune system will weaken and then BOOM the first thing you catch will do you in

[Aleksandar37]

For all of you afraid of artificial sweeteners and almost everything you touch or come in contact with....

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Need to get rid of oxygen as well