x-factor vs anabeta

[enzo22]

Out of the 2 products, which one is better for bulking and making lean gains? Also, if you are prone to hair loss, which product would be the safer option?

 

[T-Bone]

Anabeta hands down.

 

[bolt10]

Man way to make it a tough decision.

Honestly I love both and tend to just use one while I am not using the other.

They are both pretty awesome but won't really accelerate lean gains, but IME help with body comp while bulking given you don't go too crazy with your diet.

Pumps, strength increases, and muscle fullness are both pretty insane on either.

 

[Benzo22]

I'm currently using XFO and absolutely love it.

 

[BPjohn123]

Both are solid. Obviously I would chose Anabeta =)

 

[grandroid828]

Out of the 2 products, which one is better for bulking and making lean gains? Also, if you are prone to hair loss, which product would be the safer option?

Taken both. and anabeta and it blows it out of the water! I am VERY PRONE. Dad lost his when he was 20! Lol. Im 21 and neither affected it. X factor did give very dry joints tho. Heard it can do that. My vote is deff for anabeta! Cant go wrong with PES

 

[BPjohn123]

Taken both. and anabeta and it blows it out of the water! I am VERY PRONE. Dad lost his when he was 20! Lol. Im 21 and neither affected it. X factor did give very dry joints tho. Heard it can do that. My vote is deff for anabeta! Cant go wrong with PES

Thank you sir

 

[Clickster]

Anabeta.. wouldn't be a hard decision for me.

 

[criticalbench]

Honestly, never in my mind would I have considered ana beta until i read this thread.. i had no clue it was that superb. Going to look into it now.

Mike

 

[mr.cooper69]

Both are great products but X-Factor is the winner for me...well, it wins against any supplement as far as body composition is concerned.

 

[jerrysiii]

If you can afford to, run both. I'm doing this currently -- plus u-spray.

 

[enzo22]

But which one is the safer option for someone that is extremely prone to hair loss? I heard that anabeta is somewhat androgenic, but I've also heard reports on people shedding while running X-factor due to scalp inflammation.

 

[jerrysiii]

But which one is the safer option for someone that is extremely prone to hair loss? I heard that anabeta is somewhat androgenic, but I've also heard reports on people shedding while running X-factor due to scalp inflammation.

I believe x-factor works through targeted inflammation so it should not produce a significant hormonal response. Not sure of the moa of anabeta. I doubt either would contribute to hair loss.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Both products will elevate LH, and hair loss is a possible endpoint of that.

 

[Clickster]

Both products will elevate LH, and hair loss is a possible endpoint of that.

I have plenty of that going on already....

 

[nattydisaster]

One thing about AnaBeta that is highly overlooked is its muti-dimensional abilities.

1 - its is anabolic

2 - it increases testosterone

3 - there is an acute effect in a single dose, noticed especially when taken with carbs or when taken preworkout

4 - there is a prolonged use effect from daily use, including physique changes, strength gains, endurance increases, and performance increases

 

[T-Bone]

Plus it makes Steak taste better!

 

[criticalbench]

One thing about AnaBeta that is highly overlooked is its muti-dimensional abilities.

1 - its is anabolic

2 - it increases testosterone

3 - there is an acute effect in a single dose, noticed especially when taken with carbs or when taken preworkout

4 - there is a prolonged use effect from daily use, including physique changes, strength gains, endurance increases, and performance increases

This may be on my list to try

 

[bdcc]

This may be on my list to try

You haven't tried AnaBeta either?

Mind = blown.

 

[BPjohn123]

This may be on my list to try

Get on it Mike

 

[bono1132]

I am almost through my first bottle of ABE, all I can say is there is already a second bottle in my cabinet for when I finish. Absolutely love this product! Not "huge" strength gains but def a push through any workout, I always have that extra energy to do one more set... Then another... Till the wife gets annoyed I'm so late coming home

 

[bdcc]

I am almost through my first bottle of ABE, all I can say is there is already a second bottle in my cabinet for when I finish. Absolutely love this product! Not "huge" strength gains but def a push through any workout, I always have that extra energy to do one more set... Then another... Till the wife gets annoyed I'm so late coming home

I don't notice strength gains from AnaBeta. Body composition improves more than with any other natural anabolic I have tried though.

 

[BPjohn123]

I don't notice strength gains from AnaBeta. Body composition improves more than with any other natural anabolic I have tried though.

Same, muscle fullness and vascularity are unmatched for me.

 

[kbayne]

With all the benefits from Anabeta, hard to not always have it around. Love me some Anabeta. Still need to get some x-factor original and give it a go.

 

[Clemenza]

For me, Anabeta hands down. I love the nutrient paritioning effects. Really helps shuttle the carbs to the muscle, and away from fat.

X-Factor killed my joints, couldn't handle it. X-Factor actually can indirectly lead to increased hair loss. People don't realize hair loss is not just a hormonal issue, but inflammation issue as well.

 

[grandroid828]

For me, Anabeta hands down. I love the nutrient paritioning effects. Really helps shuttle the carbs to the muscle, and away from fat.

X-Factor killed my joints, couldn't handle it. X-Factor actually can indirectly lead to increased hair loss. People don't realize hair loss is not just a hormonal issue, but inflammation issue as well.

Dude amen to that. X factor crippled me baddd

 

[hsk]

For optimum results with minimal sides, I would go with AnaBeta. On my second run with the original AnaBeta right now. Using 6 caps daily on training days and 4 caps on non training days. Did this the first time too and am loving the results. The only sides I have ever experienced with this are increased vascularity, muscle fullness, increased hunger and a lighter wallet due to the increased food consumption. Its good stuff!

 

[enzo22]

So would you guys say that Anabeta than x-factor for people that are prone to hair loss?

 

[T-Bone]

So would you guys say that Anabeta than x-factor for people that are prone to hair loss?

Anabeta is the clear winner. X-factor increases inflammation. Anabeta is a stand out supplement.

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Why not just take both, spaced 4 hours apart?

 

[criticalbench]

Maybe ill do 8 weeks of x-factor then 8 weeks of ana beta.. then it will be contest prep time ago.

Mike

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Through reviews, both have shown to be anabolic. Arachadonic Acid is a pro inflammatory and Anabeta can be an anti inflammatory. Both have been shown to be anabolic by the reviews and studies.
I ran both during my last PCT.
Anabeta (Elite) taken about 5 hours pre workout and with my post workout dinner (3 hours post workout), and X-Gels about 20 min pre workout.
On off days I would just be sure to keep the doses spaced 4 hours apart so I could take advantage of the ArA without hindering the muscle inflammation, which is the reason I'm pretty sure it causes muscles to grow.

I got all the great nutrient partitioning benefits of Anabeta Elite, and the benefits of the X-Gels as well, without either supplement fighting the other or canceling out, and it was probably the most fun PCT I've ever had.

 

[nattydisaster]

Through reviews, both have shown to be anabolic. Arachadonic Acid is a pro inflammatory and Anabeta can be an anti inflammatory. Both have been shown to be anabolic by the reviews and studies.
I ran both during my last PCT.
Anabeta (Elite) taken about 5 hours pre workout and with my post workout dinner (3 hours post workout), and X-Gels about 20 min pre workout.
On off days I would just be sure to keep the doses spaced 4 hours apart so I could take advantage of the ArA without hindering the muscle inflammation, which is the reason I'm pretty sure it causes muscles to grow.

I got all the great nutrient partitioning benefits of Anabeta Elite, and the benefits of the X-Gels as well, without either supplement fighting the other or canceling out, and it was probably the most fun PCT I've ever had.

Smart PCT right there

 

[grandroid828]

Smart PCT right there

So guys, say someone about to do a halodrol cycle, with nolva, daa, and cycle assist for pct, would the anabeta possibly HURT me? Or would it be great? Any chance of rebound gyno with that much hormone modulation post cycle? Opinions please

 

[kbayne]

So guys, say someone about to do a halodrol cycle, with nolva, daa, and cycle assist for pct, would the anabeta possibly HURT me? Or would it be great? Any chance of rebound gyno with that much hormone modulation post cycle? Opinions please

Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.

 

[grandroid828]

Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.

Cool man! Ill do that. Should i do reg dose and start it on day one or like 2 weeks in with erase? And fyi im using anabeta elite if that makes a diff

 

[kbayne]

Cool man! Ill do that. Should i do reg dose and start it on day one or like 2 weeks in with erase? And fyi im using anabeta elite if that makes a diff

I would start the anabeta elite right away and ya regular dose... 2 pre and 2 post on workout days then 1/1/1/1 on non-workout days.

 

[jerrysiii]

Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.

I agree. Start DAA on last week of cycle. Use Original Erase and dose 0/0/3/2/1. Run ABE as kbayne suggests.

 

[grandroid828]

I agree. Start DAA on last week of cycle. Use Original Erase and dose 0/0/3/2/1. Run ABE as kbayne suggests.

He simply said during pct i beleive, so start day one of pct? Trying to avoid rebound gyno, as i already have pseudogyno as it is.

 

[kbayne]

He simply said during pct i beleive, so start day one of pct? Trying to avoid rebound gyno, as i already have pseudogyno as it is.

Start anabeta elite day one of pct. Start erase on week three at 3 caps. Some people start erase right away, but I would start week 3 and taper off.

 

[grandroid828]

Start anabeta elite day one of pct. Start erase on week three at 3 caps. Some people start erase right away, but I would start week 3 and taper off.

Thanks bro. Preciate it. I may or may not go with erase. Should be fine either way but we'll see.

 

[kbayne]

Thanks bro. Preciate it. I may or may not go with erase. Should be fine either way but we'll see.

No problem. I would go with erase though. Thats just me. Hope it all works out for ya man.

 

[grandroid828]

No problem. I would go with erase though. Thats just me. Hope it all works out for ya man.

I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing

 

[kbayne]

I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing

Ya I'd definitely follow ur log. Just post it up in this thread and in the supplement review/log section. Ill be on the lookout for it.

 

[BPjohn123]

I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing

Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!

 

[FL3X MAGNUM]

Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!

Me too!!!!!!

 

[grandroid828]

Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!

Will do guys. Thanks for the support. It wont be for another month or so, but i will log and send a link to you all. Multi, fish oil, and Anabeta elite came today by the way. Halo, cycle assist, and dpol will be this week, nolva for pct and arimidex (in case of emergency) will be this week or next. Gonna grab some good ole erase, and i should have every single base (amd then some) covered for a sick first cycle. Cant wait.

 

[criticalbench]

Will do guys. Thanks for the support. It wont be for another month or so, but i will log and send a link to you all. Multi, fish oil, and Anabeta elite came today by the way. Halo, cycle assist, and dpol will be this week, nolva for pct and arimidex (in case of emergency) will be this week or next. Gonna grab some good ole erase, and i should have every single base (amd then some) covered for a sick first cycle. Cant wait.

I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

Mike

 

[grandroid828]

I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

Mike

Cycle in detail (other than cycle assist, fish oil, multi, and joint supps preloaded and throughout)

Week 1- 50 mg halo daily
Week 2- 75 mg halo daily
Week 3- 75 mg halo
Week 4 - 75 mg halo
Week 5- 75 mg halo
Week 6- 75 mg halo
Week 7- 20 mg nolva, 4 anabeta
Week 8 - 20 mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 1 erase
Week 9- 10 mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 2 erase, 3g DAA
Week 10- 10mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 3 erase, 3 daa
Week 11 - 3 erase, 3 g daa
Week 12 - 2 erase, 3g daa
Week 13- 1 erase

 

[grandroid828]

I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

Mike

I am more than open to suggestions. I feel as if its overkill as well. Im just scared to death of gyno/rebound gyno!!! I already have pseudogyno which is bad enough but im not trying to mess with real gyno