x-factor vs anabeta

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  1. Maybe ill do 8 weeks of x-factor then 8 weeks of ana beta.. then it will be contest prep time ago.

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  2. Through reviews, both have shown to be anabolic. Arachadonic Acid is a pro inflammatory and Anabeta can be an anti inflammatory. Both have been shown to be anabolic by the reviews and studies.
    I ran both during my last PCT.
    Anabeta (Elite) taken about 5 hours pre workout and with my post workout dinner (3 hours post workout), and X-Gels about 20 min pre workout.
    On off days I would just be sure to keep the doses spaced 4 hours apart so I could take advantage of the ArA without hindering the muscle inflammation, which is the reason I'm pretty sure it causes muscles to grow.

    I got all the great nutrient partitioning benefits of Anabeta Elite, and the benefits of the X-Gels as well, without either supplement fighting the other or canceling out, and it was probably the most fun PCT I've ever had.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Through reviews, both have shown to be anabolic. Arachadonic Acid is a pro inflammatory and Anabeta can be an anti inflammatory. Both have been shown to be anabolic by the reviews and studies.
    I ran both during my last PCT.
    Anabeta (Elite) taken about 5 hours pre workout and with my post workout dinner (3 hours post workout), and X-Gels about 20 min pre workout.
    On off days I would just be sure to keep the doses spaced 4 hours apart so I could take advantage of the ArA without hindering the muscle inflammation, which is the reason I'm pretty sure it causes muscles to grow.

    I got all the great nutrient partitioning benefits of Anabeta Elite, and the benefits of the X-Gels as well, without either supplement fighting the other or canceling out, and it was probably the most fun PCT I've ever had.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster

    Smart PCT right there
    So guys, say someone about to do a halodrol cycle, with nolva, daa, and cycle assist for pct, would the anabeta possibly HURT me? Or would it be great? Any chance of rebound gyno with that much hormone modulation post cycle? Opinions please

  5. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828

    So guys, say someone about to do a halodrol cycle, with nolva, daa, and cycle assist for pct, would the anabeta possibly HURT me? Or would it be great? Any chance of rebound gyno with that much hormone modulation post cycle? Opinions please
    Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne

    Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.
    Cool man! Ill do that. Should i do reg dose and start it on day one or like 2 weeks in with erase? And fyi im using anabeta elite if that makes a diff

  7. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828

    Cool man! Ill do that. Should i do reg dose and start it on day one or like 2 weeks in with erase? And fyi im using anabeta elite if that makes a diff
    I would start the anabeta elite right away and ya regular dose... 2 pre and 2 post on workout days then 1/1/1/1 on non-workout days.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Many people run AnaBeta on PCT. I would throw in Erase also. With nolva, daa, cycle assist, anabeta, and erase... should be an awesome PCT.
    I agree. Start DAA on last week of cycle. Use Original Erase and dose 0/0/3/2/1. Run ABE as kbayne suggests.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by jerrysiii

    I agree. Start DAA on last week of cycle. Use Original Erase and dose 0/0/3/2/1. Run ABE as kbayne suggests.
    He simply said during pct i beleive, so start day one of pct? Trying to avoid rebound gyno, as i already have pseudogyno as it is.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828

    He simply said during pct i beleive, so start day one of pct? Trying to avoid rebound gyno, as i already have pseudogyno as it is.
    Start anabeta elite day one of pct. Start erase on week three at 3 caps. Some people start erase right away, but I would start week 3 and taper off.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne

    Start anabeta elite day one of pct. Start erase on week three at 3 caps. Some people start erase right away, but I would start week 3 and taper off.
    Thanks bro. Preciate it. I may or may not go with erase. Should be fine either way but we'll see.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828

    Thanks bro. Preciate it. I may or may not go with erase. Should be fine either way but we'll see.
    No problem. I would go with erase though. Thats just me. Hope it all works out for ya man.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne

    No problem. I would go with erase though. Thats just me. Hope it all works out for ya man.
    I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing

  14. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828

    I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing
    Ya I'd definitely follow ur log. Just post it up in this thread and in the supplement review/log section. Ill be on the lookout for it.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828 View Post
    I might try and pick some up. Thank you. Preciate it. Ill probably be logging in about 2 months when i do that cycle if u wanna add me or somthing
    Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123
    Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!
    Me too!!!!!!
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123
    Send me a link if you log bro, love to follow!
    Will do guys. Thanks for the support. It wont be for another month or so, but i will log and send a link to you all. Multi, fish oil, and Anabeta elite came today by the way. Halo, cycle assist, and dpol will be this week, nolva for pct and arimidex (in case of emergency) will be this week or next. Gonna grab some good ole erase, and i should have every single base (amd then some) covered for a sick first cycle. Cant wait.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828 View Post
    Will do guys. Thanks for the support. It wont be for another month or so, but i will log and send a link to you all. Multi, fish oil, and Anabeta elite came today by the way. Halo, cycle assist, and dpol will be this week, nolva for pct and arimidex (in case of emergency) will be this week or next. Gonna grab some good ole erase, and i should have every single base (amd then some) covered for a sick first cycle. Cant wait.
    I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench

    I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

    Mike
    Cycle in detail (other than cycle assist, fish oil, multi, and joint supps preloaded and throughout)

    Week 1- 50 mg halo daily
    Week 2- 75 mg halo daily
    Week 3- 75 mg halo
    Week 4 - 75 mg halo
    Week 5- 75 mg halo
    Week 6- 75 mg halo
    Week 7- 20 mg nolva, 4 anabeta
    Week 8 - 20 mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 1 erase
    Week 9- 10 mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 2 erase, 3g DAA
    Week 10- 10mg nolva, 4 anabeta, 3 erase, 3 daa
    Week 11 - 3 erase, 3 g daa
    Week 12 - 2 erase, 3g daa
    Week 13- 1 erase

  20. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench

    I would love to see your cycle. If you are using those supplements in your pct, along with nolva.. you really need to reconsider your options here. Why use muscle builders in a pct, you are not building muscle then. Nolva should be all you need for recovery, so no need for erase. You need to save these things for post pct or roll it into a natty bulking stack as pct fades.

    Mike
    I am more than open to suggestions. I feel as if its overkill as well. Im just scared to death of gyno/rebound gyno!!! I already have pseudogyno which is bad enough but im not trying to mess with real gyno

  21. I think you'll be all set on the gyno. You should start the DAA immediately in pct though.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    I think you'll be all set on the gyno. You should start the DAA immediately in pct though.
    All set with everything i laid out there? Or should i take something out? And alright thanks.

  23. In my humble opinion, cannot go wrong with either one, I have stacked the two with great strength, muscular endurance, and muscle fullness gains, along increase in weight.
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