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    Arrow Horny Goat Weed, GABA, Fenugreek, Magnesium, Long Jack, or Maca


    If you had to pick only one of the following for mood enhancement, which would you go with and why:

    Horny Goat Weed, GABA, Fenugreek, Magnesium, Long Jack, or Maca

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    Trib? Where did that come from? LOL
    Better than any of the ones I mentioned?


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    maca


    and GABA sucks, I took way too much before
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel0022 View Post
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    This^^^^
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    gaba dont even work.cant pass bbb. replace with phenibut and now we're talkin
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    Maca. Love the effects but really cannot stand the taste. Wish somebody would make a 1g capsule of this stuff.
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    Bro, you have an unhealthy obsession with sexual enhancement. Perhaps see a physician...

    Your questions have been answered in all your previous threads (to which I contributed as well). Why do you keep asking the same things? It only annoys me because forum members take the time to answer your questions and then you make a new thread and ask the same thing.

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    Dosing Tongkat/Longjack
    Libido Max - does it work?
    Dosing Horny Goat Weed
    Stoked, PCT Assist, Perform, or AXcite Magnum to increase libido?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Bro, you have an unhealthy obsession with sexual enhancement. Perhaps see a physician...

    Your questions have been answered in all your previous threads (to which I contributed as well). Why do you keep asking the same things? It only annoys me because forum members take the time to answer your questions and then you make a new thread and ask the same thing.

    Libido/Test Booster
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/216068-indonesia-tongkat-ali.html

    Dosing Tongkat/Longjack
    Libido Max - does it work?
    Dosing Horny Goat Weed
    Stoked, PCT Assist, Perform, or AXcite Magnum to increase libido?
    Axcite Magnum
    Libido Booster
    Now Foods L-Dopa 15%
    Maca Dosage
    Chill Out Stack Before Sex
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    Mojo Risen or Erexite
    Is HGW Effective for a Power Stack
    Mojo Risen
    that's just awesome....
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    Can you elaborate on THIS?


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    This^^^^
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    Your feedback is always appreciate. Many different products out there to compare and always Ike hearing directly from those who have tried similar.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Bro, you have an unhealthy obsession with sexual enhancement. Perhaps see a physician...
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    I support your obsession.
    I am the same way.

    I have an order from Iherb that I`m waiting for:
    NOW Maca 200g
    Source Naturals Horny Goat Weed 1000mg 120 tabs
    Action Labs LongJax 200:1
    NOW Tribulus 1000 mg 90 tabs
    AI Sports Testopro(Fenugreek included)

    Unfortunately I have only used longjack and tribulus yet.

    In fact I can not live without tribulus.


    I never get depressed lately,and I`m a very depressed person otherwise,needing SSRIs 4-5 months out of the year.

    I don`t really see any side effects yet,been taking it for 6 months.
    Apart from it being addictive IMO(I am addicted to the normal mood and libido I get from it,I am never out of stock)

    Longjack(tongkat) is awesome for this purpose too.
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    Good to hear!

    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    I support your obsession.
    I am the same way.

    I have an order from Iherb that I`m waiting for:
    NOW Maca 200g
    Source Naturals Horny Goat Weed 1000mg 120 tabs
    Action Labs LongJax 200:1
    NOW Tribulus 1000 mg 90 tabs
    AI Sports Testopro(Fenugreek included)

    Unfortunately I have only used longjack and tribulus yet.

    In fact I can not live without tribulus.


    I never get depressed lately,and I`m a very depressed person otherwise,needing SSRIs 4-5 months out of the year.

    I don`t really see any side effects yet,been taking it for 6 months.
    Apart from it being addictive IMO(I am addicted to the normal mood and libido I get from it,I am never out of stock)

    Longjack(tongkat) is awesome for this purpose too.
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    Horny Goat Weed - no effect on mood, boosts libido
    GABA - relaxant
    Fenugreek - no effect on mood, boosts libido, boosts estrogen
    Magnesium - relaxant at high doses
    Long Jack- no effect on mood, boosts libido
    Maca - no effect on mood, boosts libido
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Horny Goat Weed - no effect on mood, boosts libido
    GABA - relaxant
    Fenugreek - no effect on mood, boosts libido, boosts estrogen
    Magnesium - relaxant at high doses
    Long Jack- no effect on mood, boosts libido
    Maca - no effect on mood, boosts libido
    When i have a boost in libido , i am generally in a better mood

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    Hay fatburner2007 my doc told me fenugreek I'm on it as we speak. It also has the advantage that it blunts insulin spikes, and metabolizes glucose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    When i have a boost in libido , i am generally in a better mood
    Haha right!

    My case too!

    How the **** can you have bad mood if you`re libido is rocking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIGUEL1J View Post
    Hay fatburner2007 my doc told me fenugreek I'm on it as we speak. It also has the advantage that it blunts insulin spikes, and metabolizes glucose.
    If you are taking the unstandardized herb, all it's doing is boosting libido and lowering the T:E ratio (bad). It would need to be standardized for 4-OHIsl to actually affect glucose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    If you are taking the unstandardized herb, all it's doing is boosting libido and lowering the T:E ratio (bad).
    What does this mean?

    Is Testofen all right?(Fenugreek Extract 50% Fenuside)


    I have Testopro in the mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    What does this mean?

    Is Testofen all right?(Fenugreek Extract 50% Fenuside)


    I have Testopro in the mail.
    At least testofen is standardized to a slightly worthwhile compound. The study on testofen shows good results, but almost all bloodwork I've seen was unfavorable
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    At least testofen is standardized to a slightly worthwhile compound. The study on testofen shows good results, but almost all bloodwork I've seen was unfavorable
    Unfavorable as in will not boost test or unfavorable as in will have more less test than I started with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Unfavorable as in will not boost test or unfavorable as in will have more less test than I started with?
    The bloodwork I've seen (about 4-5 sets) showed a rise in E2 and a fall in T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The bloodwork I've seen (about 4-5 sets) showed a rise in E2 and a fall in T.
    Well that`s just great.

    Why the heck is testofen included in so many test boosters then?

    So it would boost big boobs?

    Shiiiit.
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    Is this info on GABA legit? For sure it does not pass the bbb? I am reading stuff on both sides regarding this issue.

    Anything definitive? Does GABA affect HGH levels?



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    gaba dont even work.cant pass bbb. replace with phenibut and now we're talkin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killler View Post
    Well that`s just great.

    Why the heck is testofen included in so many test boosters then?

    So it would boost big boobs?

    Shiiiit.
    To be fair, most of the bloodwork was just for 50% fenuside fenugreek. I don't know if testofen has some other constituents that are in variable quantities relative to a typical extract (it would depend on the extraction process). But yes, I've been asking myself the same question for years. Fenugreek is also used throughout Europe as a lactation aid in women.

    Quote Originally Posted by Est1969 View Post
    Is this info on GABA legit? For sure it does not pass the bbb? I am reading stuff on both sides regarding this issue.

    Anything definitive? Does GABA affect HGH levels?
    It doesn't penetrate the BBB, but such penetration is not required for it to exert its effects on the hypothalamus. It can still act directly on the hypothalamus to induce relaxation, increase GH release, and improve quality of sleep. Peripheral interactions also explain the relaxation and respiratory depression.
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    I'm on the metagenic fenugreek plus check it out. A lil expensive but worth it. I done labs to confirm .
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIGUEL1J View Post
    I'm on the metagenic fenugreek plus check it out. A lil expensive but worth it. I done labs to confirm .
    A 6.5:1 extract containing a minimum of 70% soluble fiber? So in other words, mostly just a waste of space, and the parts that they did use are just concentrated estrogenic compounds. Great!And it is no wonder this lowers your blood glucose. It contains gymnema sylvestre and bitter melon, both of which can potently reduce insulin output and dispose of blood glucose. You, sir, have been fooled.
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    Every one response differently Mrcopper69 try it for two months 4 pills a day get labs after two months. Get labs before and after. It works for me, improved my mood, enhance my test levels not worried about about estrogen I'm on letro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIGUEL1J View Post
    Every one response differently Mrcopper69 try it for two months 4 pills a day get labs after two months. Get labs before and after. It works for me, improved my mood, enhance my test levels not worried about about estrogen I'm on letro.
    No thanks. I know what the ingredients do. And I'm not on letro.
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    you sure that wasnt the letro effecting your test levels there?
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    As it pertains to GABA, how do you all dose? My tablets are 750 mg, and lately I've been taking 4 (3000 mg pre-bed). I notice sometimes if I take it too close with my ZMA, I get shortness of breath, so I space them out by 40 min or so. I've read 5000 mg is the optimum dose, but for that I'm assuming doses would have to be multiple.
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    3-5g. Timing with ZMA was just a coincidence. The shortness of breath is purely a function of the peripheral effects of GABA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    3-5g. Timing with ZMA was just a coincidence. The shortness of breath is purely a function of the peripheral effects of GABA
    Taken all at once? Shortness of breath is a side of large GABA dose...that can't be good, but it helps me have wonderful sleep. Should GABA be cycled off? I was going to do a 4 week break of all supps, not including vitamins/minerals
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockme View Post
    Taken all at once? Shortness of breath is a side of large GABA dose...that can't be good, but it helps me have wonderful sleep. Should GABA be cycled off? I was going to do a 4 week break of all supps, not including vitamins/minerals
    Yes, but if you get shortness of breath like me, you can lower the dose. The HGH release may not be as profound, but who cares? I take 1g pre-bed.

    The shortness of breath is totally benign. If you can suck it up and deal, then do so. Yes you should cycle GABA.
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    maybe talk to an endocrinologist, if you're having problems just feeling normal without supplementation I'd say that's a sign that you may have something seriously wrong with you and of the supplements you listed I would go with magnesium as its the only one that's absolutely essential in your diet and something athletes have a tendency to be deficient in.

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    Gonna try regular Fenugreek first.


    Quote Originally Posted by MIGUEL1J View Post
    I'm on the metagenic fenugreek plus check it out. A lil expensive but worth it. I done labs to confirm .
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    Sigh. I will now defer to the line that the Hodge Twins use to end all of their Youtube videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Sigh. I will now defer to the line that the Hodge Twins use to end all of their Youtube videos.
    If I stack Fenugreek with Tribulus, what kind of PCT should I use? Clomid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Est1969 View Post
    If I stack Fenugreek with Tribulus, what kind of PCT should I use? Clomid?
    LMFAO funniest thing I've read all day
  

  
 

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