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  1. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    ive tried focus XT but not with versa before.
    The complementary acetate donation and Choline Acetyltransferase upregulation (via ALCAR) + Acetylcholinesterase Inhibition (via Huperzine A) can amplify the effects of citocholine.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    this makes me want a stronger pre workout even more!
    For sure...it should stack well with preworkouts and other mixes like Focus-XT, for the mental aspect of the molecule.

    I guess it makes sense now why the banners ads on AM have said mind and muscle on them
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.
    Yea I was wondering where dude went myself.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster
    Gotta love the controversy over innovation!

    Every great product starts this way. I remember when everyone said Erase wasn't going to be good because of this theory and that theory. Now all those guys take Erase

    I followed about 8-10 logs, didn't have time for the 200 that beta-tested. All if them seemed very positive and also consistent with each other, which lead me to believe there was something special going on.

    I've been taking AnaBeta every day...excited to add Versa to continue my lean(ish) bulk!
    I agree that most the logs I followed were very positive and seemed to show good results. I do enjoy a good debate though.

    Anabeta/versa does sound appealing.
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  5. How about everyone just order some for the sick price and the let the product speak..
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    They didn't know what to expect. We didn't make claims. We just handed it out and said take it...
    Im not even saying your products is bunk, I'm just saying if it was they would somehow still get results

  7. Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

    You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

    This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

    You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

    This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
    It’s hard for people to look at things objectively in ourindustry and understandably so. We expected a small backlash from the usualsuspects (we wanted that as it only helps discussion and growth of the product) and we hoped that the consumers would then weigh the feedback on theproduct objectively and that would win out...that seems to be happening..

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The complementary acetate donation and Choline Acetyltransferase upregulation (via ALCAR) + Acetylcholinesterase Inhibition (via Huperzine A) can amplify the effects of citocholine.
    I already tried it and love it...Pure mental horsepower...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post

    I already tried it and love it...Pure mental horsepower...
    Same here. Focus XT on off days and added ALCAR on training days.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Yes, the placebo effect is a strong one but when several logs post very similar results without even a clue as too what they might expect from the product, then I highly doubt the placebo is in play.

    You must consider that their are a variety of different supplements that ellicit very different physiological effects and so when PA was released to the Alpha testers, that product could have mimicked any one of the categories of supplements. I.e. Test booster, AI, Insulin mimicker etc. etc. and so any placebo that a user would have felt would be in line with what they believed/ hoped or anticipated the product would deliver (increased hunger, appitite suppression etc.) but instead they all reported similar findings.

    This would require far too much coincidence for all alphas (not just in this board either, but users from other forums as well) to anticipate the same response.
    great post
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Where did iron fists posts go? Objective discussion and a disagreement of viewpoints should not be grounds for deletion. I just got here and am reading a broken convo lol.

    Anecdotally, I did notice transient bouts of almost unbearable sweating when combined with caffeine in a fasted state. That, and nitrate-esque vascularity, were the two most prominent effects for me (the citocholine may explain the erections). I'd like to get iron fists take on these effects and possible causes. Vascularity observations could be placebo or subject's bias, but the intense rise in body heat (with sweating and even some nausea) was only present when I took this product fasted, and it occurred without fail when doing so.
    I've quoted most all of his posts as it was, you should be able to get the entirety of his contribution.

    I do enjoy a devils advocate position and opposition will in the end only help prove out anything of real value, but that guy was beginning to just degrade into personal attacks on my intelligence and condescending posts on dictionary meanings of placebo as if I don't understand its very simple concept.

    I wish he could have offered a scientific argument or a more extensive look into the effects of the compounds actions as well but I honestly don't think he has any more info then any of us.

    Either way, I don't think his posts should have been removed. Hopefully he can come back if he hasn't been banned.

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  13. If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun

  14. Quote Originally Posted by squatting View Post
    If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun
    solid choice....

    I hope the community decides to log experiences here..

  15. Not sure If some of you know, a final email to ic peeps has been sent out.. It's the last call to get your hands on this sick deal before its all gone...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by squatting View Post
    If versa1 gets more promising non sponsored reviews I'm going to pick it up and go with the focus xt and versa route

    Sounds fun
    logging mine now. it was free, but a log wasnt required. just simply logging my personal experiences with it. if i hate it, ill say. if i love it, ill pimp it all around the forum
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by USPlabsRep View Post
    solid choice....

    I hope the community decides to log experiences here..
    agreed
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    logging mine now. it was free, but a log wasnt required. just simply logging my personal experiences with it. if i hate it, ill say. if i love it, ill pimp it all around the forum
    Can u link me
    I'm on mobile and it don't show sigs

  19. Quote Originally Posted by hawaiianhulk View Post
    Not sure If some of you know, a final email to ic peeps has been sent out.. It's the last call to get your hands on this sick deal before its all gone...
    Thumbs up!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    You should honestly try Focus XT for a similar feel (no pimp). It would stack well with Versa-1
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    I think so..focus would increase and even better mental stamina seems to increase..you just stay sharp.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Would the stack be beneficial for a study session? Often I find Focus XT to be enough in of itself but would Versa 1 be a good addition? Always looking for that edge closer to exam time
    That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Since the citocholine appears to be a secondary ingredient relative to the aegeline, it probably wouldn't be the best way to use it, but you could try Versa-1 + Focus XT + a racetam
    I'll give that combo a trial run in the coming weeks. Thanks for the heads up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack411 View Post
    That's one serious study session!focus xt is more than enough for me when I need the mental boost.
    Yeah, Focus Xt does me well during the semester but closer to exam time when you need to pull all-nighters WITH mental clairty (often a hard combo in a sleep deprived state) I need all the help I can get.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post

    Same here. Focus XT on off days and added ALCAR on training days.
    Sounds like a nice way to utilize the two. I got a tub of caff free focus Xt sitting on my fridge.. I gotta remember to try this out.

  26. Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj

  27. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj
    Pump spray would confound your results tremendously

  28. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Going to run a non sponsored log of Versa 1 as soon as it arrives. Only other supplements i will be using is Powerful at bedtime and Epharm pumpspray preworkout..sj
    Please link me! I'd love to follow along.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Please link me! I'd love to follow along.
    I will. Started pumpspray yesterday at 70 sprays preworkout and Powerful at bedtime. As soon as the Versa1 arrives I will make a non sponsored log here. Very excited to give this ago. SJ
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