Homemade preworkout vs premade one

[mcc23]

Hey guys I've been takin hemavol as my pwo of choice. I do love it but 40 bucks after shipping every month, in combination with my other supps, is getting expensive. I was wondering if a homemade pwo with agmatine as base pump ingredient would be just as good? Obviously I don't want 5,6,7 ingredients in it. No caffeine. I figured agmatine, Citrulline, GPLC. Or would just taking agmatine pwo be a good idea?

[neddo]

GPLC is and of itself is rather expensive as well. You can make your own that will be cheaper of course.

ALCAR 2g, Agmatine 1g, Citrulline Malate 7g, Beta Alanine/Creatine 3g/3g (not pertinent to being dosed peri-workout; simply for convenience), GMS 6g; etc.

[mpaquett]

GPLC is and of itself is rather expensive as well. You can make your own that will be cheaper of course.

ALCAR 2g, Agmatine 1g, Citrulline Malate 7g, Beta Alanine/Creatine 3g/3g (not pertinent to being dosed peri-workout; simply for convenience), GMS 6g; etc.

This sounds good, but buying all of the bulk ingredients I'm not convinced would save you very much money. My suggestion would be to start stripping.

[mcc23]

This sounds good, but buying all of the bulk ingredients I'm not convinced would save you very much money. My suggestion would be to start stripping.

Then in that case, Agmatine and Citrulline would be the main 2 I'd go w/. Already have some mono in storage.

[mpaquett]

beta-alanine would be a good one to keep around also

[David Dunn]

Nitrate Review

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I got my materials for ~$30 and it will provide me 30 doses as outlined. 4 days a week equates to 7.5 weeks

[warbird01]

GPLC is and of itself is rather expensive as well. You can make your own that will be cheaper of course.

ALCAR 2g, Agmatine 1g, Citrulline Malate 7g, Beta Alanine/Creatine 3g/3g (not pertinent to being dosed peri-workout; simply for convenience), GMS 6g; etc.

This.

If you make your own, you can mess around with doses too.

Only reason I sometimes buy pre made ones is the convenience.

[mcc23]

This.

If you make your own, you can mess around with doses too.

Only reason I sometimes buy pre made ones is the convenience.

I remember doing a cost/benefit analysis comparing popular premade pwo's vs homemade ones..I wish I still had it saved on my comp.. But if you have the upfront money, it's way more cost efficient to buy bulk and just make your own..I don't remember exactly but I believe the ingredients lasted me for 6 months and total cost put out was like 100 tops..Maybe less..Also, for flavor, some sugar free kool-aid always does the trick!

[Clickster]

I used to make my own. I like premade better now; maybe I just got too lazy.

[oufinny]

I used to make my own. I like premade better now; maybe I just got too lazy.

This is my thought and flavoring, mixing, measuring while I am at work is not something I want to deal with. I like other people doing the thinking sometimes and once you find a good pre-workout, all you have to do is drink and show up to the gym.

[mr.cooper69]

This is precisely what I do with SNS:

1 serving Ephedrine + Caffeine
9g SNS Citrulline Malate
2g SNS ALCAR
2g Glucuronolactone
Nitrate source of choice (I use APS Creatine Nitrate or yok3d)

[mcc23]

This is precisely what I do with SNS:

1 serving Ephedrine + Caffeine
9g SNS Citrulline Malate
2g SNS ALCAR
2g Glucuronolactone
Nitrate source of choice (I use APS Creatine Nitrate or yok3d)

Why do you add in nitrates? No agmatine?

[mr.cooper69]

Why do you add in nitrates? No agmatine?

Nitrates have a lot of good data on them, and they work for me. I take agmatine with food

[oufinny]

Nitrates have a lot of good data on them, and they work for me. I take agmatine with food

This is my take on them, and mind you I like the effect I get from them. They are not necessary. If you workout hard, you can get great pumps with carbs or with no carbs. Actually when I eat a higher fat, low carb diet, I get WAY better pumps that way than I do eating a lot of carbs. Nitrates just enhance the effect that is why I view them as highly optional (but I still love the extra pump I get from a pre-workout with them).

[mcc23]

This is my take on them, and mind you I like the effect I get from them. They are not necessary. If you workout hard, you can get great pumps with carbs or with no carbs. Actually when I eat a higher fat, low carb diet, I get WAY better pumps that way than I do eating a lot of carbs. Nitrates just enhance the effect that is why I view them as highly optional (but I still love the extra pump I get from a pre-workout with them).

I dont understand the logic behind better pumps w. lower carbs other than less water retention.. But carbs pre workout will always give a better pump.. It's how much you consume the rest of the day which creates that water retention that can make vascularity less prominent

[David Dunn]

Their benefits are far beyond pump. PubMed and see.

[SweetLou321]

What are the other benifits? I have a bottle of yoked laying around.

[David Dunn]

I did mention PubMed...right?

Here is a thread/post with many:
Creatine Nitrate?

[mr.cooper69]

This is my take on them, and mind you I like the effect I get from them. They are not necessary. If you workout hard, you can get great pumps with carbs or with no carbs. Actually when I eat a higher fat, low carb diet, I get WAY better pumps that way than I do eating a lot of carbs. Nitrates just enhance the effect that is why I view them as highly optional (but I still love the extra pump I get from a pre-workout with them).

I don't use them for a pump

[Clickster]

This is precisely what I do with SNS:

1 serving Ephedrine + Caffeine
9g SNS Citrulline Malate
2g SNS ALCAR
2g Glucuronolactone
Nitrate source of choice (I use APS Creatine Nitrate or yok3d)

That looks really solid bro.