I've taken PES Erase for 2 weeks, haven't noticed anything.
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10-12-2012 07:13 PM
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I've taken PES Erase for 2 weeks, haven't noticed anything.
I've been taking PES Erase for two weeks so far, everyone talks about drastic changes in mood or libido, body composition leaning out, dry joints, etc. I have not noticed a god damn thing, maybe slightly stomach bloating but I'm eating a surplus anyway so I'm probably just getting fatter, otherwise literally nothing.
Is this indicative of anything? Could it be that I had high estrogen before starting Erase, or am I just a non-responder?
I'm not stacking it with DAA.
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10-12-2012 08:40 PM
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Whats your diet and workout regime like?
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10-12-2012 09:31 PM
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Its going to be hard to notice any type of hardening or leaning if you just started a calorie surplus. Most people dont use Erase for a bulk...they will use AnaBeta or AnaBeta Elite
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10-12-2012 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
nattydisaster
Its going to be hard to notice any type of hardening or leaning if you just started a calorie surplus. Most people dont use Erase for a bulk...they will use AnaBeta or AnaBeta Elite
This. I'd never really use an AI solo for a bulk. With a T-booster like DAA is a different story.
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10-13-2012 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by
nattydisaster
Its going to be hard to notice any type of hardening or leaning if you just started a calorie surplus. Most people dont use Erase for a bulk...they will use AnaBeta or AnaBeta Elite
To be honest I wasn't taking it to lean out, I'm just listing it as something everyone reports from it.
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10-13-2012 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by
MrBigPR
Whats your diet and workout regime like?
5/3/1
16 x body weight in lbs for calories.
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10-13-2012 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
Moshiach
5/3/1
16 x body weight in lbs for calories.
Why such an arbitrary caloric value? Have you adjusted for activity level? What about macronutrient content?
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10-13-2012 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Moshiach
I've been taking PES Erase for two weeks so far, everyone talks about drastic changes in mood or libido, body composition leaning out, dry joints, etc. I have not noticed a god damn thing, maybe slightly stomach bloating but I'm eating a surplus anyway so I'm probably just getting fatter, otherwise literally nothing.
Is this indicative of anything? Could it be that I had high estrogen before starting Erase, or am I just a non-responder?
I'm not stacking it with DAA.
You sound a little whiney, so your estrogen could be a tad higher than normal, id definitely stick with it.
There's no exact time frame, hour, minute or second that it will kick in bud. You taking 3 a day?
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10-13-2012 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by
Moshiach
I've been taking PES Erase for two weeks so far, everyone talks about drastic changes in mood or libido, body composition leaning out, dry joints, etc. I have not noticed a god damn thing, maybe slightly stomach bloating but I'm eating a surplus anyway so I'm probably just getting fatter, otherwise literally nothing.
Is this indicative of anything? Could it be that I had high estrogen before starting Erase, or am I just a non-responder?
I'm not stacking it with DAA.
I'm so confused. You want to lean out on a surplus? lol. If your bulking, do it with DAA or Anabeta etc. and stack it with Erase to reduce estrogen and cortisol, but dont expect to lean out while on a bulk.
When I can get it in, I love to stack it with Anabeta on a bulk.
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10-13-2012 05:14 AM
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Everyone is different, but I was on erase pro/intimidate over the summer with strict diet and got vascular, lean, hard. Diet is everything, man. Check your macros and make sure everything is precise. But anabeta elite would be more appropriate for what you are doing now. I'm currently bulking with it and am getting phenomenal gains.... For what it's worth, erase pro was visibly having an effect on me by the third day. You may be a non responder, but it sounds like you may be overlooking diet component.
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10-13-2012 08:19 AM
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You don't have to necessarily feel Erase to know its working. I have seen bloodwork of people who have used it in the past and have shown the affects of Erase. Just cause the dry joints, hardening, leaning out affects aren't there doesn't mean off hand it isn't doing its job. Are you taking anything else with it? Granted in a bulking situation I think Anabeta would of been the best route.
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10-13-2012 10:13 AM
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i like erase and use it but must admit its not a very strong ai
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10-13-2012 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by uubiduu
i like erase and use it but must admit its not a very strong ai
In comparison to what?
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10-13-2012 11:35 AM
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Two bottles of Erase never saw the best of results either. That isn't to say it's a crap supplement as PES is quality through and through, but I just didn't get what I expected out of my two runs when compared to Triazole. Doesn't work the same for everyone and all that usual jazz.
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10-13-2012 01:08 PM
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10-13-2012 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Moshiach
To be honest I wasn't taking it to lean out, I'm just listing it as something everyone reports from it.
you haven't told us why you're taking it
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10-13-2012 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
uubiduu
i like erase and use it but must admit its not a very strong ai
blood work?
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10-13-2012 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
Valdez
You sound a little whiney, so your estrogen could be a tad higher than normal, id definitely stick with it.
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haha
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10-14-2012 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by
mr.cooper69
Why such an arbitrary caloric value? Have you adjusted for activity level? What about macronutrient content?
170p/350c/75f
Can you tell me why this is relevant to the side effects of Erase I'm mentioning like dry joints?
Originally Posted by
Valdez
You taking 3 a day?
Yes.
Originally Posted by
Jiigzz
I'm so confused. You want to lean out on a surplus? lol.
No, in fact I said "I wasn't taking it to lean out". The point is I consistently see people reporting the same effects from Erase, leaning out is one in a list of effects I haven't seen. I'm asking if noticing no effects is indicative of anything.
Originally Posted by
Rodja
OP, what is your age?
27
Originally Posted by
napalm
you haven't told us why you're taking it
I suspected symptoms of higher estrogen and wanted to try an AI supplement to see any effects on mood and libido, this is why I'm saying questions on my macro breakdown aren't relevant unless I was doing something stupid like 15g fat per day.
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10-14-2012 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by
Moshiach
170p/350c/75f
Can you tell me why this is relevant to the side effects of Erase I'm mentioning like dry joints?
Because if your diet was not conducive to steroid hormone biosynthesis, there would be no real aromatase activity for Erase to even block.
What led you to suspect symptoms of high estrogen?
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