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    Eviscerate vs. dermatherm


    Best topical fat loss product general. Doing some research for my summer cut after this winter bulk I got planned. Shoot

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    Would be interesting to see if any users have used both separately and can comment on results.

    I've only used Eviscerate, and i liked it. Especially when stacked with a non-suppressive liquid fat burner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam
    Would be interesting to see if any users have used both separately and can comment on results.

    I've only used Eviscerate, and i liked it. Especially when stacked with a non-suppressive liquid fat burner.
    I'll be getting some dermatherm soon I believe
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    I have used both. I like the feel of Eviscerate more. I couldn't really tell you which one I thought was more effective.
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    Dermatherm update is fairly new so I'm sure this comparison would be pretty tough until plenty of people have ran both products. I don't think too many people have been let down by Eviscerate results, it's been out for a long time and always sells well. Why not run both one after the other and do your own experiment!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Dermatherm update is fairly new so I'm sure this comparison would be pretty tough until plenty of people have ran both products. I don't think too many people have been let down by Eviscerate results, it's been out for a long time and always sells well. Why not run both one after the other and do your own experiment!
    Agreed, we just revamped the Dermatherm formula so far we have had nothing but stellar reviews. Have several logs up and running if anyone wants to follow those.

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    I like Eviscerate, have gone through a few bottles of both versions (Smolder and OG).

    I would try the new Dermatherm to compare but the price is 54.99 (about $75). It costs 50% more than the bottles of Genomyx Eviscerate in the UK.
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    I still prefer running OG to Smolder, but I understand that for those who don't want the intense burn the need for Smolder. I'm running Smolder right now because Matt was kind enough to ship me a bottle, but I'll be running OG again in two months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Would be interesting to see if any users have used both separately and can comment on results.

    I've only used Eviscerate, and i liked it. Especially when stacked with a non-suppressive liquid fat burner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Clenviscerate.
    I still have never done this, but the clen thread makes it very tempting. Maybe this summer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I still have never done this, but the clen thread makes it very tempting. Maybe this summer...
    I wanna try...Clenvliderate Advanced !
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    I have used both and I like DermaTherm mainly due to the more tolerable effects on the skin.

    I would say both work well -- but I like the more narrow range of ingredients DT uses.

    My favorite was regular lipoderm-Y + Cap --- Apply cap first then 5 mins later lipoderm-Y

    This is what I wanted to closely mimic with new DermaTherm gel

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I have used both and I like DermaTherm mainly due to the more tolerable effects on the skin.

    I would say both work well -- but I like the more narrow range of ingredients DT uses.

    My favorite was regular lipoderm-Y + Cap --- Apply cap first then 5 mins later lipoderm-Y

    This is what I wanted to closely mimic with new DermaTherm gel

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    Capsaicin I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    What's Cap matt?
    capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Capsaicin I guess.
    Yeah I would play Red Hot Chilli Peppers some 5 minutes before and even while applying Eviscerate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    What's Cap matt?
    I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I like Eviscerate, have gone through a few bottles of both versions (Smolder and OG).

    I would try the new Dermatherm to compare but the price is 54.99 (about $75). It costs 50% more than the bottles of Genomyx Eviscerate in the UK.
    Damn living in the U.K. is pricey. Think once that G sells out our line of topicals will hit there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade
    Yes. Eviscerate OG has more capsacian than Eviscerate Smolder and OG is about 15% more effective because of this according to Matt.
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    Hopefully Dsade has Eviscerate Burn Free ready soon so I can give it a try!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade
    Definitely no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Yes. Eviscerate OG has more capsacian than Eviscerate Smolder and OG is about 15% more effective because of this according to Matt.
    Still no.

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    Capsaicin. Third times a charm? That's a pain to spell!
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    Hey just do this...

    Apply DermaTherm target on one love handle and Eviscerate on the other...

    Take pics on day 1 and day 30

    lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Hey just do this...

    Apply DermaTherm target on one love handle and Eviscerate on the other...

    Take pics on day 1 and day 30

    lol....

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    Hahaha I like this idea!
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    The good thing about Dermatherm Target is I can tell you a pretty accurate mg per pump ---regarding ingredients -

    DermaTherm
    17.5mg Yohimbine HCL
    9mg Theophylline (100% Pure)
    6mg Rasberry Ketone (99% Pure)
    39mcg Capsaicin

    Now that is pretty potent in my book....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Capsaicin. Third times a charm? That's a pain to spell!

    Just call it 'cap"

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    Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....

    We need more TWIN test trials lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....

    We need more TWIN test trials lol

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    Let's just clone some twins and use them for all sorts of scientific research.

    Right now NP has Eviscerate OG for just 30 bucks which is about as cheap as you'll ever see it guys. This is a product that has been selling out since Matt brought it to the market years ago. I've got some on right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....

    We need more TWIN test trials lol

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    In the UK, Dermatherm is 54.99 and Eviscerate is 39.99.

    Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

    I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    In the UK, Dermatherm is 54.99 and Eviscerate is 39.99.

    Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

    I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.
    Could it be cost of ingredients? Not sure what the ingredient profile of Eviscerate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Could it be cost of ingredients? Not sure what the ingredient profile of Eviscerate.
    Eviscerate has all the ingredients in Derma plus some others.

    OG profile: Triglyceride Complex ,n-Methyl-2-Pyrrolidinone, Raspberry Ketones,Yohimbine, Glycyrrhetinic Acid , Caffeine anhydrous, Aminophylline, Bergenin, Ginger Extract, beta-Escin, Benzyl Nicotinate, Propionyl-L-Carnitine, Ellagic Acid 40%, Banaba Leaf Extract, Theophylline, , Laurocapram ,l-menthol,Sodium Polyacrylate, Carbomer, Capsaicin 98%

    Smolder has a lower Capsaicin content and one or two different ingredients to this list.

    Matt could expound on the differences between Smolder and OG better than me, but the biggy is the cap content. Smolders burn I hardly notice at all. OG has a little more bite to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    In the UK, Dermatherm is 54.99 and Eviscerate is 39.99.

    Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?

    I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.
    I really enjoy both products (Smolder and DermaTherm) OG eviscerate was just to much for me personally... ouch...

    I am unsure how long a bottle of smolder lasts...and I am unsure of the mgs in each ingredients, but I do know you get 130 LARGE pumps of gel with DermaTherm and I laid out the mg potency per pump.

    Once again -- I love both products and have nothing but good things to report for them

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    I think I'm going to try out the new DermaTherm product very soon. I have used Eviscerate (OG and Smolder) and the original DermaThem so I should be able to tell how well I respond to it.
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    All we need is Matt Pearson to do is come in and say whether they have more actives or not lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    All we need is Matt Pearson to do is come in and say whether they have more actives or not lol.

    Come on Matt, don't be shy!
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    I'm pretty sure both Smolder and OG have more cap in them. As for per pump ingredients I have no idea, never seen before. I know there is a ton of goodies in Eviscerate and Matt isn't known for under-dosing products! I'll try and see if Avant ever had a per pump MG of stuff from Napalm considering Napalm is in Eviscerate and Smolder along with other goodies. I'll also direct him here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I'm pretty sure both Smolder and OG have more cap in them. As for per pump ingredients I have no idea, never seen before. I know there is a ton of goodies in Eviscerate and Matt isn't known for under-dosing products! I'll try and see if Avant ever had a per pump MG of stuff from Napalm considering Napalm is in Eviscerate and Smolder along with other goodies. I'll also direct him here.
    Thank you.

    Eviscerate would have to have less than 70% of the actives of Dermatherm per bottle to be less cost effective in the UK (approximately).

    At the moment it is my favourite topical. It would be nice for a rough clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Thank you.

    Eviscerate would have to have less than 70% of the actives of Dermatherm per bottle to be less cost effective in the UK (approximately).

    At the moment it is my favourite topical. It would be nice for a rough clarification.
    I love Eviscerate too :3 , has the Celly seal of approval. Looking to try 2 things with it:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    On my first day of Evicerate... This **** feels amazing!!! Burn?
    OG or Smolder? Honestly in the winter I don't notice the burn near as much with OG. I actually prefer OG, but I know many prefer the lessened scorch of Smolder. It's also one of those things that the body adjusts to very quickly. After a week on OG the burn is pretty mild. Weirdly it burns the most in the shower as you wash off, but 5 minutes after that it's completely gone. Definitely keep me posted on your results, I think you'll love it!
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