iforce intimidate and melatonin

[drob14]

Just wondering if its ok to take both. Thanks for any replies

[criticalbench]

Yep, I do! With valarian root in contest preps when i cant sleep!

[PuZo]

Yep, I do! With valarian root in contest preps when i cant sleep!

L-Typtophan bro......

[criticalbench]

L-Typtophan bro......

*****.. i go to sleep with ambien and wake up with modafinil

[baldwanus]

L-Typtophan bro......

wouldnt it be cool if we had a product with that in it?

[mr.cooper69]

L-Typtophan bro......

Why would you ever use tryptophan when you can readily buy 5htp?

[PuZo]

Why would you ever use tryptophan when you can readily buy 5htp?

Tryptophan works better for me.

[mr.cooper69]

Tryptophan works better for me.

Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.

[JD261985]

Do you like intimidate? I got much better results with straight up DAA...notice iforce claims 100 times the potency...well think about it..the dose for intimidate(NMDA) is 30 mg..the dose for DAA is 3000 mg...100 times 30 is 3000.. its a marketing ploy..one that really pissed me off

[mr.cooper69]

Do you like intimidate? I got much better results with straight up DAA...notice iforce claims 100 times the potency...well think about it..the dose for intimidate(NMDA) is 30 mg..the dose for DAA is 3000 mg...100 times 30 is 3000.. its a marketing ploy..one that really pissed me off

Potency does refer to the amount of compound needed to exert an effect. Is it 100x stronger than DAA at that dose? Nope. But is it 100x more potent at agonizing the NMDA receptor in vitro? Yup.

[criticalbench]

Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.

Puzo.. Coop just skooled you ass.. I loled hard!!!!

[baldwanus]

Puzo.. Coop just skooled you ass.. I loled hard!!!!

tis not the first time that has happened

[antihero]

tis not the first time that has happened

Always fun to watch though.

[criticalbench]

Always fun to watch though.

and now hes real quiet!

[baldwanus]

and now hes real quiet!

typical Karen behavior.

[allnatural923]

never had an issue taking the 2 together

[LiveToLift]

Just wondering if its ok to take both. Thanks for any replies

I took them both nightly for a month and experienced the best sleep of my life!

[PuZo]

Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.

Maybe my 5-HTP was bunk, but I noticed when taking 2g+ of Typtophan it just gave me better sleep. I'm just saiyan 5-HTP solo hasn't done anything for me that I have been able to notice. Phenibut and Tryptophan(solo) were the only 2 things that would not cause me to wake up.

[uvawahoowa]

Tryptophan has the same MOA as 5HTP, only that it is one step back in the synthesis of serotonin. This may not seem like an issue, but unlike 5-HTP, trytophan is a common AA with a whole host of destinations which may exclude it from serotonin synthesis. Conversely, 5HTP actually skips the rate-limiting step of serotonin synthesis and directly elevates brain levels (demonstrated via human trials). So in short, since they are both accomplishing the same thing but one is doing it way more effectively, I'm not sure how tryptophan "works better" for you.

What level dosing would you suggest for 5-htp Coop?

[Rhadam]

Isn't oral melatonin pretty much inert?