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    Recommendations for best damage control supplement?


    What do you guys think?

    I've seen a few nutrient partioners mentioned, but I see recommendations of these best used with a high carb meal as opposed to high carb high fat. I have an end of season trip coming up for a week at the end of September, while I'm not overly stressed about it, there's going to be alot of bad eating/drinking so wondering if there are any recommendations to help minimise the damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_W View Post
    What do you guys think?

    I've seen a few nutrient partioners mentioned, but I see recommendations of these best used with a high carb meal as opposed to high carb high fat. I have an end of season trip coming up for a week at the end of September, while I'm not overly stressed about it, there's going to be alot of bad eating/drinking so wondering if there are any recommendations to help minimise the damage?

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    End of September? I would hold off and pick up my new Slintensity. I would also recommend DCP for Damage Control
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    End of September? I would hold off and pick up my new Slintensity. I would also recommend DCP for Damage Control
    So your saying Slintensity is close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    So your saying Slintensity is close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade
    In production right now. Shooting for the 16th to arrive at Nutra.
    You sexy beast you know all the right words to say. I'm for surely interested in this from all the positive things I have heard already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    You sexy beast you know all the right words to say. I'm for surely interested in this from all the positive things I have heard already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade

    I stake my reputation on this product...it is a whole new level of awesome.
    Well now. That just means I have to get it.
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    For fat: raspberry ketones, high-dosed GSE (orlistat-like effect)
    For carbs: Phaseolus vulgaris, gymnema sylvestre, berberine, green coffee bean extract
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    Early feedback is showing Slintensity might be the strongest GDA for damage control.
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    Out of curiosity, has anyone experimented with a damage control supplement for alcohol consumption? I know this is a tricky one as alcohol creates an unfavourable environment for anabolism/fat loss for a certain time post consumption - but wondering if you guys have used anything to help mitigate the effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_W View Post
    Out of curiosity, has anyone experimented with a damage control supplement for alcohol consumption? I know this is a tricky one as alcohol creates an unfavourable environment for anabolism/fat loss for a certain time post consumption - but wondering if you guys have used anything to help mitigate the effects?
    ALCAR will mitigate neurological effects. A basic product like CEL Cycle Assist will boost liver function, thus mitigating negative effects in that regard. You should probably have a look at this though: http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html


    Long story short, avoid fats during the day of drinking and avoid carbs during the hours before drinking/while drinking, consume as much protein and alcohol as you want, and you will be fine (and actually probably LOSE fat since alcohol is an AMPK stimulant and protein/alcohol are poor substrates for lipogenesis).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For fat: raspberry ketones, high-dosed GSE (orlistat-like effect)
    For carbs: Phaseolus vulgaris, gymnema sylvestre, berberine, green coffee bean extract
    Would acute dosing of raspberry ketones or grape seed extract mitigate the effects of a cheat meal? Or, would it require consistent dosing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post
    Would acute dosing of raspberry ketones or grape seed extract mitigate the effects of a cheat meal? Or, would it require consistent dosing?
    Acute works
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69
    For fat: raspberry ketones, high-dosed GSE (orlistat-like effect)
    For carbs: Phaseolus vulgaris, gymnema sylvestre, berberine, green coffee bean extract
    Looks close to Anabolic Pump.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    ALCAR will mitigate neurological effects. A basic product like CEL Cycle Assist will boost liver function, thus mitigating negative effects in that regard. You should probably have a look at this though: http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html

    Long story short, avoid fats during the day of drinking and avoid carbs during the hours before drinking/while drinking, consume as much protein and alcohol as you want, and you will be fine (and actually probably LOSE fat since alcohol is an AMPK stimulant and protein/alcohol are poor substrates for lipogenesis).
    Ha.. had two big carb meals before my alcohol tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    ALCAR will mitigate neurological effects. A basic product like CEL Cycle Assist will boost liver function, thus mitigating negative effects in that regard. You should probably have a look at this though: http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html

    Long story short, avoid fats during the day of drinking and avoid carbs during the hours before drinking/while drinking, consume as much protein and alcohol as you want, and you will be fine (and actually probably LOSE fat since alcohol is an AMPK stimulant and protein/alcohol are poor substrates for lipogenesis).
    This^^ whenever I know I'm gonna drink, I eat good the day before, then the day of I have nothing but recover pro aminos and Zero carb/fat protein. I also have an emergen c packet. I drink pretty 'clean' but will have one or two sugary drinks to start the night lol but point is, I definitely wake up much more defined and drier, and soak up the nutrients i eat the day after..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    This^^ whenever I know I'm gonna drink, I eat good the day before, then the day of I have nothing but recover pro aminos and Zero carb/fat protein. I also have an emergen c packet. I drink pretty 'clean' but will have one or two sugary drinks to start the night lol but point is, I definitely wake up much more defined and drier, and soak up the nutrients i eat the day after..
    The whole waking up drier and leaner phenomenon is simply due to the diuretic effect of alcohol. Regardless of how much you eat, expect to weigh several pounds less the night after drinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The whole waking up drier and leaner phenomenon is simply due to the diuretic effect of alcohol. Regardless of how much you eat, expect to weigh several pounds less the night after drinking.
    This is what advocates my yearly drinking binge pre shoot lol. It is the only reason I drink now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    For fat: raspberry ketones, high-dosed GSE (orlistat-like effect)
    For carbs: Phaseolus vulgaris, gymnema sylvestre, berberine, green coffee bean extract
    the ones with the "orlistat like effects" will they also have the orlistat like side effects(runs etc)?

    and do all those carbs ones need to be taken 30min or so prior to consuming carbs? or can it be at the same time for some?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gahcase21 View Post
    the ones with the "orlistat like effects" will they also have the orlistat like side effects(runs etc)?

    and do all those carbs ones need to be taken 30min or so prior to consuming carbs? or can it be at the same time for some?
    To a lesser degree, certainly. If it's not absorbed, it's excreted. Do the carbs need to be taken 30 min prior to consuming carbs? I don't follow.
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