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    X-factor Original (ARA) is probably the supp your looking for as other have mentioned. and unlike many supps ive yet to see a non responder to ARA so its probably your best bet.

    honorable mention:
    Anabeta, erase, creatine, natadrol, recompadrol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericool007
    X-factor Original (ARA) is probably the supp your looking for as other have mentioned. and unlike many supps ive yet to see a non responder to ARA so its probably your best bet.

    honorable mention:
    Anabeta, erase, creatine, natadrol, recompadrol.
    thanks bro!
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    Not too sure how this started talking about food.... not the thread for that but nice diets lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by gibbons2 View Post
    Not too sure how this started talking about food.... not the thread for that but nice diets lol
    Lol, I posted about food, and I'm not even sure how it started lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Got to 8.3% (bodpod) with cold cuts, 80/20 beef, and yogurt as my main protein/fat sources, kids cereal as my main carb source, and PB as my main fat source. There's no need to restrict yourself. I ate out plenty of times, but the key is simply compensating by reducing calories over the following 24 hours.
    Yeah i agree about cutting cqlories.But i see people often say how they want to get so lean and tight,yet while cUtting calories they feel all the little things matter.

    So i take it as u are saying,keep it fairly clean,but dont have to be perfect. Ofcourse cardio.has to b up there,which.i am guilty of barely ever doing.Thats my big prt.Ihate cRdio
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    natty supps are unbelievable in todays day and age....back 10-20 years ago we didn't have jack shyt as compared to now So many new and effective OTC supps its crazy. But I actually like broccoli, steam it and throw some salt and pepper on it, and it tastes good to me....I know some people hate broccoli....add in some steamed chicken or some steak? thats a win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Yeah i agree about cutting cqlories.But i see people often say how they want to get so lean and tight,yet while cUtting calories they feel all the little things matter.

    So i take it as u are saying,keep it fairly clean,but dont have to be perfect. Ofcourse cardio.has to b up there,which.i am guilty of barely ever doing.Thats my big prt.Ihate cRdio
    yeah, I believe he was saying that....hit your macros, and it doesn't really matter if it is "clean food" or "good food" necessarily. just figure out how many cals you need, how much protein you need, how many carbs you want to restrict, and its all just #'s. Your body isn't going to really know where it came from, and it all ends up in a glob inside your stomach whether its whole grain or white bread or beef fat or olive oil etc...its all macros. that being said there are still protein quality and health aspects to concern yourself with......
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    yeah, I believe he was saying that....hit your macros, and it doesn't really matter if it is "clean food" or "good food" necessarily. just figure out how many cals you need, how much protein you need, how many carbs you want to restrict, and its all just #'s. Your body isn't going to really know where it came from, and it all ends up in a glob inside your stomach whether its whole grain or white bread or beef fat or olive oil etc...its all macros. that being said there are still protein quality and health aspects to concern yourself with......
    Dude,makes 100% sense!!!!!!! thnx for the stranlation sir! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Very few things work.
    well...."very few" is kind of harsh.... there are more than a select few things that work, but there is a lot of crap out there still ...seems more and more of the supps "work" as the years go by though, lots more effective supps nowadays as compared to 10-20 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Dude,makes 100% sense!!!!!!! thnx for the stranlation sir! lol
    lol, now I gotta translate the supplement section in addition to the anabolic section? I didn't sign up for this
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Very few things work.
    Welll if you look at the whole overall picture...more trhings dont work.but dont forget alot of the ppl that claim they dont work may not have good diets and/or training routines. there SUPPLEMENTS,they supplement eeverything u do in and out of the gym.

    but I agree ,id say 80% of supps are a waste..80% is a small # with the amount of stuff out there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    lol, now I gotta translate the supplement section in addition to the anabolic section? I didn't sign up for this
    LMAO
    Your just a sweet guy,thats wat it is =/ lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Welll if you look at the whole overall picture...more trhings dont work.but dont forget alot of the ppl that claim they dont work may not have good diets and/or training routines. there SUPPLEMENTS,they supplement eeverything u do in and out of the gym.

    but I agree ,id say 80% of supps are a waste..80% is a small # with the amount of stuff out there!
    Right it gives you the edge...

    You are correct most people expect miracles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Right it gives you the edge...

    You are correct most people expect miracles.

    Sups can speed up the process of achieving a look if everything else is nail down.
    Absolutly man.Ppl hear the word TEST and they expect real anabolic results from stining nettle root and i3c,lol.with proper diet and routine and age and proper dosages then those compounds may be helpful,those 2 supps wont make you look like Lee Priest,thats what stacking Tren,HGH and whatever the **** else these guys take..oh wait,yrs ago i remember Priest claim he only uses test.The guy is still one of my favorites though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Absolutly man.Ppl hear the word TEST and they expect real anabolic results from stining nettle root and i3c,lol.with proper diet and routine and age and proper dosages then those compounds may be helpful,those 2 supps wont make you look like Lee Priest,thats what stacking Tren,HGH and whatever the **** else these guys take..oh wait,yrs ago i remember Priest claim he only uses test.The guy is still one of my favorites though
    you got like 4" on that midget, why you wanna look like him? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    you got like 4" on that midget, why you wanna look like him? LOL
    Lmao,a whole 4" and i def dont wanna look like any of them dudes.These kids expect natural supps to jack them up,worried about all sorts of ****, a little silly.Honestly,they look great for what they do all these mr o guys.A guy like Greg Plitt is in amazing condition.


    But Warbird,if i can look like anyone,it would be you <3 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Lmao,a whole 4" and i def dont wanna look like any of them dudes.These kids expect natural supps to jack them up,worried about all sorts of ****, a little silly.Honestly,they look great for what they do all these mr o guys.A guy like Greg Plitt is in amazing condition.

    But Warbird,if i can look like anyone,it would be you <3 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    A skinny black man?
    Wtf!?!??! No a jacked up Asian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Wtf!?!??! No a jacked up Asian


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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1



    Haha
    Lol
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    LMFAO! what the hell is going on in here anyways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    LMFAO! what the hell is going on in here anyways?
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    WARBIRD,i wouldnt take that^^^^ lightly
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    Just take tribulus!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    WARBIRD,i wouldnt take that^^^^ lightly
    I already whooped his ass once this week, so I'll let that one slide....but if he does it again next week? I'll open a new can for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I already whooped his ass once this week, so I'll let that one slide....but if he does it again next week? I'll open a new can for him
    ^^^p****
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    X-factor Advanced is vastly inferior to X-Factor original.
    Could you please elaborate? I'm wanna buy an ARA product to boost my gains!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank

    Could you please elaborate? I'm wanna buy an ARA product to boost my gains!
    Thats actually great info..Cause i been informed that the OG XFactor ARA ,not advanced,is being sold by the 200 ct and for dirt cheap. Im on it and ordering it tommorow!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    Could you please elaborate? I'm wanna buy an ARA product to boost my gains!
    Co-ingesting competitive omega-3 fatty acids, as in XFA, reduces ArA delivery and metabolism. It is effectively using a lower dose of ArA per cap than XF.
    http://pescience.com/
    http://selectprotein.com/
    The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Co-ingesting competitive omega-3 fatty acids, as in XFA, reduces ArA delivery and metabolism. It is effectively using a lower dose of ArA per cap than XF.
    Why would a smart guy like William make a great product less effective??

    Thanx for answering..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    Why would a smart guy like William make a great product less effective??

    Thanx for answering..
    Because he's also a smart enough guy to realize that excessive inflammation can cause joint pain and headaches. He'd rather the product be less effective for it's stated goals but have a lower side effect profile, as consumers would be turned off, and this is ultimately a business.
    http://pescience.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Because he's also a smart enough guy to realize that excessive inflammation can cause joint pain and headaches. He'd rather the product be less effective for it's stated goals but have a lower side effect profile, as consumers would be turned off, and this is ultimately a business.
    sad....but probably true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Because he's also a smart enough guy to realize that excessive inflammation can cause joint pain and headaches. He'd rather the product be less effective for it's stated goals but have a lower side effect profile, as consumers would be turned off, and this is ultimately a business.
    Oki doki.. Thanx for answering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITFrank View Post
    Oki doki.. Thanx for answering.
    Dude,u just say OKI DOKI...lol..hey man its cool,kind of,lmao
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