Haha it was serious, I usually ask things that way. Interesting...I'll look it up :/ can't be crazier than Datbtrue though...(I have heard some of his posts are a bit mental...)
The response I gave you was merely based on a normal dosage (for the study made on muscle soreness and recover). The rest was given on part research/part experimentation on MY end.
For me 20g BCAA Preworkout (either 4:1:1 and specially 8:1:1) have resulted excellent on a bulk. The preworkout dose can be taken even if it is not fasted, I merely mentioned a popular approach people (and I ) like to take for the Intermittent Fasting route; it will still help in protein Synthesis and mTOR signaling to take it pre-workout if fed nonetheless.
What is this "immediate post workout window" you speak of? Your body gets increased nutritent absorption rates as far as 8 hours post workout, so any time is fine
I would recommend it prior or with a Post workout MEAL however. Dosages for optimal Leucine Post workout IMO would be 10-15g (2-3 scoops) for a BULK and if you are gonna do a BIG meal. However Pre-workout I don't see the need for more than 10g of Leucine.
If you do not have Leucine, same can be done for BCAA's just figure out the ratios of Leucine in your BCAA (IE 4:1:1 or 8:1:1) and dose according to need.