So you think it may have some suppressive effects?
I thinking Of using in a pwo fashion, what effect did it have on your workouts and how good is it at reducing fatigue at a cns level?
I havent personally tried it, though I have unsuccessfully tried to get some in the past... but if your looking for something to give you a extra boost, and to help you better focus at work/ be on your A-game... pick demiurge it'll definitely give you what you need!
For whatever reason, Demiurge has no effect on me, even with 1/3 of the bottle taken in a single bolus dose. I have the rest of my bottles sealed and am hoping to get a refund, as my previous phenylP source worked. I know AL is legit so perhaps the batch was inconsistent?
Could be; I just know that my cognition definitely increases, my mood improves, I CANNOT take it later in the day or interferes with sleep. It makes DAA more potent along stimulants that affect dopamine in a positive way. The most I have gone is 3 caps. I cannot go further than that before I get real mean and anxious.
Wow, that's similar to how I felt from my other Carphedon. I did 10 caps followed by 20 caps 3 hours later and felt nothing the entire time. I actually went to sleep about an hour after the 20 cap-dose.
Bro were you not afraid of reaching the toxicity limit? Which I believe is 750mgs, then again I am assuming you thought that it was sugar or empty pills at the point. I hope I don't get a bad batch the next time I purchase Demiurge. This stuff gets me rocking though. I was able to a substantial amount of work in much less time than normal on it as well.
Where's the data on that toxicity? I had taken 800mg-1g for true emergencies with my old source and only suffered from headaches the day after.
You're off by a factor of 10. 65g would be toxic for me at my bodyweight
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yes I should have said 62 or 63 grams, and 72-73 gramsYou're off by a factor of 10. 65g would be toxic for me at my bodyweight
damn.. thats a lot.
I have it because of sleep apnea but take it once a month at most,only when my mask falls off
With this particular supplement, I'm easily able to have laser sharp focus for many hours without the jitters or irregular heartbeat from traditional stims. One last thing...a positive side effect is my libido is insane on Nuvigil!
didnt do anything for me!
I did read R form is probably the one with main effect and also the one that acts as well as D2 agonist (lowers prolactin so makes you go for few more rounds in bed) so makes sense to go for armodafinil only version (Nuvigil).So I've had a chance to experiment with Nuvigil the past month and I love it! My doctor gave me a 30 tablet prescription at 150mg/tablet when I told him I wanted to give it a try to keep me awake when working late night hours. There are 50, 150, and 250mg tables and I would STRONGLY recommend to start with the lower dosages. My sweet spot is to split a 150mg tablet and take only half at night (75mg) when I need to focus for about 4-6 hours, and then optionally another half (75mg) later at night to extend my wakefulness if needed. It is a very clean mental rush which is much different than caffeine or anything such as CRAZE or Jack3d. The first time I took a dosage I made the mistake of taking 150mg at night which easily lasted for 10 hours, and gave me a headache the next day. Also, this drug is freakin' amazing as a pre-workout aid which will give you constant energy and focus. There is also the added benefit of the feel-good euphoria with the dopamine affects and very little side effects. I've also observed that you will gain tolerance very quickly so I'd definitely recommend taking it only for a few days straight, then take at least 1 or 2 days off. Also take note that the dosage of Nuvigil is equal to twice that of Provigil. I downloaded a coupon from the Nuvigil website to reduce my $5 copay to $0. As with any supplement, use with caution and don't abuse
What dosing would you recommend so not to hit tolerance?
Mike makes a really good point. A few years ago, I used it on odd days to improve performance at work and it did. However, fairly quickly I was taking it every day. I never suffered any negative effects, but after a few months my paranoia set in and I just didn't feel comfortable taking something daily that has no long-term safety studies behind it. I take it now, but with any kind of regularity and only when I know I have a very challenging day.
Adrafinil proven to cause severe liver damage so I'd stay away from using it for recreational stuff - at least switch to generic modafinil or armodafinil since once you destroy your liver you'll pretty much destroy your body.
True, it can cause liver damage, but that is not the case for everyone. As long as you are smart about it and have liver values checked every 3 months or so you should be fine. I doubt its any more harmful for your liver than oral PH/DS. However, I will be switching to generic modafinil within the next 3 months regardless, so I think with a measured approach to usage and liver support I will be fine. I myself use it for controlling ADD at work, not for recreational purposes, it just happens that I work out in the middle of the day so its a side benefit.
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